War's Legacy v1.52

[Dreadlord Tichondrius]

Well it shouldn't be crashing every 5 mins. There's going to be a little lag here and there, especially with a lot of factions at once.


What was happening when it crashed?

Maybe I was exagurating, but what I really meant was lag every five mins and occasional crashes
To other question: lag, screen goes black and I find myself on the "play" button again

 

[Wa666r]

Maybe I was exagurating, but what I really meant was lag every five mins and occasional crashes
To other question: lag, screen goes black and I find myself on the "play" button again

What version is your game and the version of war's legacy?

 

[Dreadlord Tichondrius]

What version is your game and the version of war's legacy?

Aaaaaaaah!
That's it.
Battle.net: 2.0.2.22761
Game: I just pressed the download button.
Prob also 'cause i'm playing on apple.

 

[Wa666r]

Aaaaaaaah!
That's it.
Battle.net: 2.0.2.22761
Game: I just pressed the download button.
Prob also 'cause i'm playing on apple.

MacOS is notorious for playing poorly.

 

[Dreadlord Tichondrius]

MacOS is notorious for playing poorly.

Thanks for helping me!

 

[Yplos]

Hello everyone! I have a problem, when i paste the War's Legacy folder in my Documents/WarcraftIII/Maps/Download folder it doesn't show up ingame. I tried making it shorter, removing characters, nothing works. Is there anyone who can help me? I'm playing on 1.36 WC3 reforged version.

 

[Ravager16829]

Hello everyone! I have a problem, when i paste the War's Legacy folder in my Documents/WarcraftIII/Maps/Download folder it doesn't show up ingame. I tried making it shorter, removing characters, nothing works. Is there anyone who can help me? I'm playing on 1.36 WC3 reforged version.

The author updated this map with the most recent version of World Editor (currently 2.0.2), so it will probably not work on the older patches.

 

[nhs325]

wait where's Nightnorne?

 

[Wa666r]

wait where's Nightnorne?

It takes forever to upload the updated version. If the map doesn't say 1.5 yet, its still trying to upload.

 

[APOCACS]

It was hard to update the bundle haha

 

[Wa666r]

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It was hard to update the bundle haha

Takes up to an hour to upload just one of the maps. Lord help me.

 

[APOCACS]

There is a bug for some reason when i used life's exiler item on nightborne shop it spawned this, i tried the 2nd time and it did the same thing. I have the new version of the map.

 

[Wa666r]

There is a bug for some reason when i used life's exiler item on nightborne shop it spawned this, i tried the 2nd time and it did the same thing. I have the new version of the map.
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Seems to be the only item broken. Let me know if you find any other bugs.

 

[Kotol]

There are also bugs in the Ice Troll Training Charge Mechanic. When a unit is trained, gold or lumber is not spent. Also, when research is started and then units are queued and then the research is completed, all the units in the queue are instantly trained and you suddenly have six units. This bug is also present on the standalone map.

 

[Wa666r]

There are also bugs in the Ice Troll Training Charge Mechanic. When a unit is trained, gold or lumber is not spent. Also, when research is started and then units are queued and then the research is completed, all the units in the queue are instantly trained and you suddenly have six units. This bug is also present on the standalone map.

Oh. That is true, can't believe I never noticed. That's quite a big issue. Might need to remove the whole charges mechanic if it can't be fixed.

 

[Kotol]

I know a few solutions: The problem of not spending gold and lumber can be solved with code, just like in the Curse Essence mechanic you made in before. When a building starts training an unit, the gold and lumber cost required for the unit is spent by codes. If training is stopped, the gold and lumber can be refunded. For the research problem, a separate add-on structure can be created like in the Terran building mechanic and the researches can be added to that building. Or, as in the previous version of the Scarlet Crusade map, all Ice Troll research upgrades can be based on weapons and armor.

I think the Training Charges mechanic is quite unique and removing the Training Charge mechanic would destroy all the uniqueness.

Finally, are you planning on adding innate abilities/racial bonuses to all factions similar to Worgen faction, which you recently overhauled?

 

[Wa666r]

I know a few solutions: The problem of not spending gold and lumber can be solved with code, just like in the Curse Essence mechanic you made in before. When a building starts training an unit, the gold and lumber cost required for the unit is spent by codes. If training is stopped, the gold and lumber can be refunded. For the research problem, a separate add-on structure can be created like in the Terran building mechanic and the researches can be added to that building. Or, as in the previous version of the Scarlet Crusade map, all Ice Troll research upgrades can be based on weapons and armor.

I think the Training Charges mechanic is quite unique and removing the Training Charge mechanic would destroy all the uniqueness.

Finally, are you planning on adding innate abilities/racial bonuses to all factions similar to Worgen faction, which you recently overhauled?

Will need to see what I can do. The editor isn't friendly to unique training mechanics.
No, each race already has unique mechanics to them that doesn't need to be specified in a tooltip.

 

[TheVoidSlayer]

Will need to see what I can do. The editor isn't friendly to unique training mechanics.
No, each race already has unique mechanics to them that doesn't need to be specified in a tooltip.

Unless there is someone who is going to do a review of your mappack with ALL RACES. I can't guarantee that I won't give up on this idea, besides from English only UI and subtitles...

 

[Wa666r]

Unless there is someone who is going to do a review of your mappack with ALL RACES. I can't guarantee that I won't give up on this idea, besides from English only UI and subtitles...

Thats quite the undertaking if they're gonna go piece by piece. Well, if there were someone that wanted to take on localizing all the text, I wouldn't mind helping here and there. Otherwise, that's a massive undertaking and AI can only translate so well.

 

[Kotol]

Ice Troll Training Charges mechanic bugs are no longer present. The Ice Troll Training Charge Limitation idea is quite unusual. I thought this bug could only be fixed with a mechanic like Terran add-ons or the outdated Scarlet Crusade upgrade mechanic. I had never thought of this idea. However, when I was researching and then I canceled research with the ESC key, I got the message "Completed: [Ice Troll] - Iced Hatchet". I think it can't be fixed due to engine limitations.

 

[Wa666r]

Ice Troll Training Charges mechanic bugs are no longer present. The Ice Troll Training Charge Limitation idea is quite unusual. I thought this bug could only be fixed with a mechanic like Terran add-ons or the outdated Scarlet Crusade upgrade mechanic. I had never thought of this idea. However, when I was researching and then I canceled research with the ESC key, I got the message "Completed: [Ice Troll] - Iced Hatchet". I think it can't be fixed due to engine limitations.

The issue is not easily fixed. I'm not sure what you mean by the old Scarlet method, the having abilities be leveled and unlocked by the damage and armor upgrades? I didn't want to have a Terran-like add-on system either, though it was an option. I might save that mechanic for another faction. Yeah, with the ESC cancel its either the message or have the game completely crash. If ESC chose the first thing in production to cancel instead of the last, it would have been no issue.

Maybe in the future a genius coder would find a workaround, but for right now, the limitations are too much.

 

[Kotol]

The issue is not easily fixed.

The current Ice Troll training charge mechanic now works, I think the minor message bugs can be ignored.

I'm not sure what you mean by the old Scarlet method, the having abilities be leveled and unlocked by the damage and armor upgrades?

Yes, All their upgrades was based on weapons and armor. Ice Troll Training Charge Limitation on upgrades is much better solution in my opinion. Now I found a bug with Felblood Elves Channel Demonfire - Red. If Channel Demonfire - Red is cast, this ability is transferred to the target of ability unit and also does not appear as a buff.

 

[Wa666r]

The current Ice Troll training charge mechanic now works, I think the minor message bugs can be ignored.


Yes, All their upgrades was based on weapons and armor. Ice Troll Training Charge Limitation on upgrades is much better solution in my opinion. Now I found a bug with Felblood Elves Channel Demonfire - Red. If Channel Demonfire - Red is cast, this ability is transferred to the target of ability unit and also does not appear as a buff.

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To do something like the old Scarlet Crusade upgrade system would require completely reworking and revamping most of the Ice Trolls, making them lose the uniqueness they already have. I don't think its worth it. That upgrade system might return in a different faction, though I didn't like how it worked in old Scarlet Crusade it can still be salvaged.

I see. If its one small single bug, I'm just going to add it towards 1.60 when I add another faction. If you find other's let me know.

 

[kklost]

Your work completely made me into the Melee world! Well Done mate. I'm having some fun against easy bots XD

 

[Famine]

Hello,
I'd like to report a bug concerning the Nightborn race. When attempting to upgrade the base using Tier 2 or Tier 3 resources, the resource values display with a negative sign, which seems unintended.

It appears that resources are being added instead of being properly deducted during the upgrade process.
The problem first appeared in patch 1.52; it was not present in patch 1.51.

 

[Kotol]

Hello. I found a few more bugs in your Kirin Tor faction. I also wanted to state my own suggestions regarding the Kirin Tor faction.

BUGS:

Violet Spellwing:

• Converge Energy ability does not work. When nearby units cast spells, Violet Spellwing neither gains hit points nor increases its attack rate and armor.

Arcanist:

• Displace Magic ability has a bug. If Displace Magic is cast on a summoned unit with the Displace Magic buff, the expiration timer stops forever.
  

Apprentice:

• Prismatic Link ability has a bug. During mana transfer, the health of the caster unit constantly decreases and then increases. When the channel ends, the caster always loses health.
  

Hero – High Wizard:

• Calming Waters ability has a bug. Calming Waters does not decrease cooldowns of the cast ability.

SUGGESTIONS:

Spellsword:

• The name does not fit the unit very well in terms of lore. He can be renamed as Violet Guard or Violet Warden.
• The Phaseblade ability icon and visual effects do not match in color. The icon is violet while the visual effects are blue.
• The Phaseblade ability does not trigger on enemy units next to the target unit. It only triggers on enemy units behind the target unit. I think the cleave radius is quite narrow, which almost never causes the ability to trigger and wastes mana.
• The Runed Armor ability is actually the vanilla Warcraft III ability Amulet of Spell Shield. It's also a bit too powerful for a basic melee unit. Instead, the Runed Armor ability can block a certain amount of magic damage from instances of damage above a certain amount of magic damage (the ability has a cooldown).

Scribe:

• During the assistant spellbook buff, Scribe's attack type can be changed to magical. In this case, he will deal more damage against heavy armor and be able to attack ethereal units, but will deal less damage against medium armor and will not be able to attack spell immune units. This is just a suggestion. You can add it or not.

Curator:

• Curator is more suitable as a name instead of Dalaran Golem. A new name could be found for the current Curator unit.

Arcanist:

• Both Arcanist and Apprentice have dispell ability (Destabilized and Clearcasting). It is enough to have only one spellcaster to have the dispel ability.
• The Mana Tumult ability can increase the mana cost of a target unit's abilities by 35% instead of costing 35% more mana when a target unit casts a spell. (Ability mana cost can be increased with the Set Unit Ability Real/Integer Field action)

Apprentice:

• Both Arcanist and Apprentice have dispell ability (Destabilized and Clearcasting). It is enough to have only one spellcaster to have the dispel ability.

Invoker:

• Attack ground AoE radius is quite low.
• I am not a fan of such organic siege caster unit.

Collector:

• Unit sound set: Mage Tower. Building sounds do not match unit sound set. Unit does not quote when moving or attacking.

Arcane Carrier:

• Unit sound set: Way Gate. Building sounds do not match unit sound set. Unit does not quote when moving or attacking.

Dalaran Golem:

• Curator is more suitable as a name instead of Dalaran Golem.
• A mechanical unit sound set can be applied instead of the Mountain Giant unit sound effect
• Instead of the Galvanized Plating upgrade, a feature that will make the Mitigation Core even stronger or something like spell immunity could be introduced. Galvanized Plating upgrade is a bit vanilla in my opinion.

Magician:

• It would be more suitable if it had Duplicate ability as (Q) and Anti-Magic Field ability as (W).
• Duplicate ability can be further strengthened as Kirin Tor is a caster faction. Illusions should deal damage, take lesser damage and cast spells but with lesser effect.
• Anti-Magic Field can also reduce magic resistance. The magic resistance reduction mechanic is a rather unusual one, but is not generally used by altered melee mapmakers.
• The Dark Ranger's ability Silence debuff icon shows when Magician casts Anti-Magic Field.

Violet Spellwing:

• In the portrait model, its eyes glow violet, but in the unit model, its eyes do not glow violet.
• Mystic Talons ability is actually the vanilla Warcraft III ability Searing Arrows. More unique features could be added.

Master Scholar:

• Magic Entrapment is actually the vanilla Warcraft III ability Polymorph/Hex that deals damage. The ability could have been crafted in a more unique way.
• Instant Travel ability does not teleport caster unit instantly. The casting delay can be reduced.

Council of Mages Summons:

• Only the health points, attack speed and attack abilities of the stronger variants of summoned elemental units (Ice, Water, Fire) are increased. The attack damage and armor of the stronger variants are the same as the weaker variants.
• The Firelord's ability Incinerate debuff icon shows when Fire Elemental attacks.
• Slow debuff icon shows when Ice Elemental attacks.

Magus Hall / Arcane Hold / Citadel - Float:

• Unit that does not consume food. Food cost should be added. Without food cost, a flying citadel army can be produced by spending all the gold and lumber, making this faction very powerful.

Wizard’s Watch:

• Empowered Magics ability is actually the vanilla Warcraft III ability Orb of Annihilation. More unique features could be added.

Kirin Tor – Orb of Power & Void Elves – Orb of Rifts:

• Orb of Power: Adds 5 bonus damage to the attack of a Hero when carried. The Hero's attacks also become ranged when attacking air and mana-steals for 4% of the damage dealt from basic attacks. Orb of Rifts: Adds 5 bonus damage to the attack of a Hero when carried. The Hero's attacks also become ranged when attacking air, and have a chance to steal 25 mana from the enemy target. Both steals mana on attack (actually restores mana on attack). The ability of one of these orbs can be reworked.

Innate Ability / Racial Bonus:

• Innate / Racial bonus ability should be added for organic non-hero units. This ability can be a percentage mana restoration increase and mana regeneration rate increase, or a passive mana shield that prevents fatal damage but costs mana for it.

Hero - Librarian:

• Accumulative Shielding does not inform about shield points. Shield abilities should inform the player how many shield points they have left, and what type of shield they have. Shield types can be specified as magical shields (blue), physical shields (red), and all shields (yellow). When a shield is active, the current shield values should be displayed above the health bar. (This feature is available in the Spiderlord ability Escutcheon in the Living Nerubians faction.)
  

Hero - Transmuter:

• Impetus’s mana-steal doesn't actually steal mana, it just restores a percentage of the damage done as mana to the attacking unit. Mana-steal is a completely different mechanic. In order for an ability to mana-steal, the attacking unit's mana must increase on attack, while the attacked enemy unit's mana must decrease on attack.
• Chromatic Anomaly ability does not create any effect while creating illusions, they appear suddenly. Abilities\Spells\Items\AIil\AIilTarget.mdl effect can be added.

Hero - Headmaster:

• Concentration Aura can give a maximum mana point bonus of a certain percentage instead of giving a flat mana point bonus.

Alternate Hero - Arcane Ranger:

• One of the heroes can be changed to a mystic ranger like the Arcane Curator from the old Dalaran faction before overhaul with Agility or Intelligence as the main attribute. The High Elves faction has an Alleria based hero, and the Forsaken faction has a Sylvanas based hero. Why can't the Kirin Tor faction has a Veresa based hero?

Alternate Spellcasters - Spellcasters based on Ice/Water/Fire magic:

• Ice/Water/Fire magic based spellcaster units can be added instead of Arcanist, Apprentice and Invoker spellcaster units.

 

[Wa666r]

Your work completely made me into the Melee world! Well Done mate. I'm having some fun against easy bots XD

Hell yeah.

Hello,
I'd like to report a bug concerning the Nightborn race. When attempting to upgrade the base using Tier 2 or Tier 3 resources, the resource values display with a negative sign, which seems unintended.
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It appears that resources are being added instead of being properly deducted during the upgrade process.
The problem first appeared in patch 1.52; it was not present in patch 1.51.

Thanks, thats a common thing to forget when importing over to War's Legacy.

Hello. I found a few more bugs in your Kirin Tor faction. I also wanted to state my own suggestions regarding the Kirin Tor faction.

BUGS:

Violet Spellwing:

• Converge Energy ability does not work. When nearby units cast spells, Violet Spellwing neither gains hit points nor increases its attack rate and armor.

Arcanist:

• Displace Magic ability has a bug. If Displace Magic is cast on a summoned unit with the Displace Magic buff, the expiration timer stops forever. View attachment 539450

Apprentice:

• Prismatic Link ability has a bug. During mana transfer, the health of the caster unit constantly decreases and then increases. When the channel ends, the caster always loses health. View attachment 539451

Hero – High Wizard:

• Calming Waters ability has a bug. Calming Waters does not decrease cooldowns of the cast ability.

SUGGESTIONS:

Spellsword:

• The name does not fit the unit very well in terms of lore. He can be renamed as Violet Guard or Violet Warden.
• The Phaseblade ability icon and visual effects do not match in color. The icon is violet while the visual effects are blue.
• The Phaseblade ability does not trigger on enemy units next to the target unit. It only triggers on enemy units behind the target unit. I think the cleave radius is quite narrow, which almost never causes the ability to trigger and wastes mana.
• The Runed Armor ability is actually the vanilla Warcraft III ability Amulet of Spell Shield. It's also a bit too powerful for a basic melee unit. Instead, the Runed Armor ability can block a certain amount of magic damage from instances of damage above a certain amount of magic damage (the ability has a cooldown).

Scribe:

• During the assistant spellbook buff, Scribe's attack type can be changed to magical. In this case, he will deal more damage against heavy armor and be able to attack ethereal units, but will deal less damage against medium armor and will not be able to attack spell immune units. This is just a suggestion. You can add it or not.

Curator:

• Curator is more suitable as a name instead of Dalaran Golem. A new name could be found for the current Curator unit.

Arcanist:

• Both Arcanist and Apprentice have dispell ability (Destabilized and Clearcasting). It is enough to have only one spellcaster to have the dispel ability.
• The Mana Tumult ability can increase the mana cost of a target unit's abilities by 35% instead of costing 35% more mana when a target unit casts a spell. (Ability mana cost can be increased with the Set Unit Ability Real/Integer Field action)

Apprentice:

• Both Arcanist and Apprentice have dispell ability (Destabilized and Clearcasting). It is enough to have only one spellcaster to have the dispel ability.

Invoker:

• Attack ground AoE radius is quite low.
• I am not a fan of such organic siege caster unit.

Collector:

• Unit sound set: Mage Tower. Building sounds do not match unit sound set. Unit does not quote when moving or attacking.

Arcane Carrier:

• Unit sound set: Way Gate. Building sounds do not match unit sound set. Unit does not quote when moving or attacking.

Dalaran Golem:

• Curator is more suitable as a name instead of Dalaran Golem.
• A mechanical unit sound set can be applied instead of the Mountain Giant unit sound effect
• Instead of the Galvanized Plating upgrade, a feature that will make the Mitigation Core even stronger or something like spell immunity could be introduced. Galvanized Plating upgrade is a bit vanilla in my opinion.

Magician:

• It would be more suitable if it had Duplicate ability as (Q) and Anti-Magic Field ability as (W).
• Duplicate ability can be further strengthened as Kirin Tor is a caster faction. Illusions should deal damage, take lesser damage and cast spells but with lesser effect.
• Anti-Magic Field can also reduce magic resistance. The magic resistance reduction mechanic is a rather unusual one, but is not generally used by altered melee mapmakers.
• The Dark Ranger's ability Silence debuff icon shows when Magician casts Anti-Magic Field.

Violet Spellwing:

• In the portrait model, its eyes glow violet, but in the unit model, its eyes do not glow violet.
• Mystic Talons ability is actually the vanilla Warcraft III ability Searing Arrows. More unique features could be added.

Master Scholar:

• Magic Entrapment is actually the vanilla Warcraft III ability Polymorph/Hex that deals damage. The ability could have been crafted in a more unique way.
• Instant Travel ability does not teleport caster unit instantly. The casting delay can be reduced.

Council of Mages Summons:

• Only the health points, attack speed and attack abilities of the stronger variants of summoned elemental units (Ice, Water, Fire) are increased. The attack damage and armor of the stronger variants are the same as the weaker variants.
• The Firelord's ability Incinerate debuff icon shows when Fire Elemental attacks.
• Slow debuff icon shows when Ice Elemental attacks.

Magus Hall / Arcane Hold / Citadel - Float:

• Unit that does not consume food. Food cost should be added. Without food cost, a flying citadel army can be produced by spending all the gold and lumber, making this faction very powerful.

Wizard’s Watch:

• Empowered Magics ability is actually the vanilla Warcraft III ability Orb of Annihilation. More unique features could be added.

Kirin Tor – Orb of Power & Void Elves – Orb of Rifts:

• Orb of Power: Adds 5 bonus damage to the attack of a Hero when carried. The Hero's attacks also become ranged when attacking air and mana-steals for 4% of the damage dealt from basic attacks. Orb of Rifts: Adds 5 bonus damage to the attack of a Hero when carried. The Hero's attacks also become ranged when attacking air, and have a chance to steal 25 mana from the enemy target. Both steals mana on attack (actually restores mana on attack). The ability of one of these orbs can be reworked.

Innate Ability / Racial Bonus:

• Innate / Racial bonus ability should be added for organic non-hero units. This ability can be a percentage mana restoration increase and mana regeneration rate increase, or a passive mana shield that prevents fatal damage but costs mana for it.

Hero - Librarian:

• Accumulative Shielding does not inform about shield points. Shield abilities should inform the player how many shield points they have left, and what type of shield they have. Shield types can be specified as magical shields (blue), physical shields (red), and all shields (yellow). When a shield is active, the current shield values should be displayed above the health bar. (This feature is available in the Spiderlord ability Escutcheon in the Living Nerubians faction.) View attachment 539456

Hero - Transmuter:

• Impetus’s mana-steal doesn't actually steal mana, it just restores a percentage of the damage done as mana to the attacking unit. Mana-steal is a completely different mechanic. In order for an ability to mana-steal, the attacking unit's mana must increase on attack, while the attacked enemy unit's mana must decrease on attack.
• Chromatic Anomaly ability does not create any effect while creating illusions, they appear suddenly. Abilities\Spells\Items\AIil\AIilTarget.mdl effect can be added.

Hero - Headmaster:

• Concentration Aura can give a maximum mana point bonus of a certain percentage instead of giving a flat mana point bonus.

Alternate Hero - Arcane Ranger:

• One of the heroes can be changed to a mystic ranger like the Arcane Curator from the old Dalaran faction before overhaul with Agility or Intelligence as the main attribute. The High Elves faction has an Alleria based hero, and the Forsaken faction has a Sylvanas based hero. Why can't the Kirin Tor faction has a Veresa based hero?

Alternate Spellcasters - Spellcasters based on Ice/Water/Fire magic:

• Ice/Water/Fire magic based spellcaster units can be added instead of Arcanist, Apprentice and Invoker spellcaster units.

Now that's one hell of a bug report. I'll need to fix and play around with somethings then comeback with some thoughts on your suggestions.