Warcraft: Apoclyspe

[takakenji]

Hmm, maybe for the Dragonflights you could have:

Red: Attainable for Horde
Green: Attainable for Alliance
Black: Unnatainable unless you best Deathwing (or something)
Bronze: Attainable only by proving yourself to Nozdormu
Blue: Attainable for the Scourge.

Unless of course there are better ideas than mine, which i bet there will be.

Pretty cool project here, need any help? I can do Terrain, Basic Unit Customization, basic triggering... and writing, if you need it

we definently need terrainers atm, i'll contact you soon

 

[dead-man-walking]

I don't think red would (ever) want to ally themselves to the Horde (Green is more logical, albeit still strange). Maybe the bronze should be made to be exclusive to the Horde, and green will be Friendly with Alliance, Horde, and Zandalari Union (Just a thought, since Alextrasza has been tortured ("Day of the Dragon") once by the Horde, it would be unlikely).

@taka: I was kidding .

 

[Moon Lord Hawkeye]

True... Hmm, black'd probably side with the horde, because in one of the books he was fascinated by them....

 

[RED BARON]

@taka: I was kidding .

A bad joke then Nobody understood it.

 

[dead-man-walking]

True... Hmm, black'd probably side with the horde, because in one of the books he was fascinated by them....

Renegade blacks (Not the devouts of Neltharion) would do.

@taka: Rather than merging posts, why don't you use Multi-Quotes?

 

[Evillizard]

There's going to be a Deathwing player, right? Right now it just seems like it's creeps.
Heroes of the Scourge;

Demi Heroes; Saphiron, Onyxia (Frostwyrm, attainable if Nerub'Izur is brought to her layer), Nefarion (Frostwyrm, attainable if Nerub'Izur is brought to his layer)

Heroes: Greater Frostwyrm (If all three frostwyrms are alive, the scourge can type a message to combine them all into one hero, have not thought of name)

Greater Event Hero: Plague Aspect; The Greater Frost Wyrm can be made the Plague Aspect with the Scourge's capture of several items/places;
Zul'gurub, Hakkar's Heart
Naxxramous, Patchwerk's Rotten Flesh (Naxx begins under undead control, but the flesh belongs to whoever controls Naxx)
Scholomace(Currently under Forsaken Control), Headmaster's Plagued Mind
When the aspect is created, the Frost Wyrms will be replaced with Plagued wyrms, that cary the Disease Cloud, have a rare chance on attacking of making the none-hero target a zombie.)
If the aspect is killed, then Deathwing (If he is a player) will gain the Plague Dragons.

 

[Moon Lord Hawkeye]

Nefarion? Who be Nefarion? Forgive me if i seem ignorant, but isn't there a giant black drake named Neltharion?

 

[Kwaliti]

Nefarian is the son of Deathwing aka Neltharion.

 

[Evillizard]

Nefarion is the last boss in Black Wing Lair.

 

[takakenji]

Renegade blacks (Not the devouts of Neltharion) would do.

@taka: Rather than merging posts, why don't you use Multi-Quotes?

wat?

when have i merged a post because of quotes

Nefarian is the son of Deathwing aka Neltharion.

yes, nefarion is the older (i believe) brother of Onyxia and Deathwing's son.

 

[dead-man-walking]

After using the trusty WoWWiki, we now know that Nefarion is an another name (or spelling) of Nefarian. Also, i think i forgot some heroes to add.

 

[Moon Lord Hawkeye]

oh... see, this is what happens when i coudl care less bout WoW war, cause it's gunna kill an amazing game IMO

 

[takakenji]

oh... see, this is what happens when i coudl care less bout WoW war, cause it's gunna kill an amazing game IMO

everyone said that in wotlk

all it did was make it even more famous.

 

[Moon Lord Hawkeye]

Meh, i guess... but all the kewl guys die (READ: Malygos, RIP you sunnuva mad dragon)

 

[takakenji]

first hostile faction added, "deathwings remnants", magtheridon now has general drakkisath which joined the dragonmaw after leaving deathwing's forces after his fall

 

[Evillizard]

Oh, so Deathwing died?

EDIT:
Hero: Ragnoros is not on anyone's side, he is hostile on the peak of mount hyjal. If Blackwing Lair is retaken (It is currently under control by Demons), then he will leave "Flame Lord Juri'kus" in his place and attack the Blackwing lair with extreme force (Unless whoever retook is keeps like a huge army there, massive, and a few heroes, then it's assured that he'll take over it) After this is done, Ragnoros will be weakened because he is not by the World Tree. If Ragnoros is slain, This will trigger an event that will include all of Azeroth. Rend Blackhand, and Thaurissasan, will be ressurected, and will start a massive war apon eachother (Searing Gorge will belong to Thaurrissassan, and Burning Stepps will belong to Rend Blackhand) and with a more massive AoS style attack on eachother, the players must join the fight and join either side to assist them. Even with some of the rare and powerfull heroes it will take a huge ammount of effort to destroy the other team. The player(s) who assist the destruction of Thaurrissasan or Rend Blackhand will gain control of the other person's armies. This will greatly turn the tide of battle.

 

[takakenji]

Oh, so Deathwing died?

EDIT:
Hero: Ragnoros is not on anyone's side, he is hostile on the peak of mount hyjal. If Blackwing Lair is retaken (It is currently under control by Demons), then he will leave "Flame Lord Juri'kus" in his place and attack the Blackwing lair with extreme force (Unless whoever retook is keeps like a huge army there, massive, and a few heroes, then it's assured that he'll take over it) After this is done, Ragnoros will be weakened because he is not by the World Tree. If Ragnoros is slain, This will trigger an event that will include all of Azeroth. Rend Blackhand, and Thaurissasan, will be ressurected, and will start a massive war apon eachother (Searing Gorge will belong to Thaurrissassan, and Burning Stepps will belong to Rend Blackhand) and with a more massive AoS style attack on eachother, the players must join the fight and join either side to assist them. Even with some of the rare and powerfull heroes it will take a huge ammount of effort to destroy the other team. The player(s) who assist the destruction of Thaurrissasan or Rend Blackhand will gain control of the other person's armies. This will greatly turn the tide of battle.

thats uh a bit too major O.O

 

[Sanistra]

Hello is there any spot in this currently project goin on cause im experienced in terraning im wow converter so i got many wow models in Wc3 format for example , I got C'thun , Frostwyrm , Proffesor putrcide and much more even magtheridon

 

[dead-man-walking]

Moar hero and other suggestions (Can't believe i'm doin' this...)

Thassarian
Koltira Deathweaver
The ShadowTooth clan of Dark Trolls (You must made up the Dark Trolls' Chieftain's name by yourself, ... or i will...)
Beware of the HOGGER! A Powerful Hostile Gnoll Hero!
Commander Eligor Dawnbringer
Primal Torntusk of the Revantusk (What the?)
LEEEROOOYYYYY!!! JJJEEENNNKIIINNNSSS!!!
Alamo teh Druid
Kralnor het Warlock
Mellin eht Paladin
Halbrium hte Shaman

 

[Evillizard]

I know it was major, lol. I thought it would be kinda interesting to have a game with huge events like that.

 

[RED BARON]

(Can't believe I'm doing this...)

Well suggestions can be a powerful thing... and its not like its boring to help out? Maybe I misunderstood it.. The ideas seems to coming in nicely and the process going well.

Fingers Crossed

 

[takakenji]

new hostile faction added

 

[Evillizard]

ROFLMAO... I knew that the gnolls would come to kill us, but I thought Hogger was dead for good when the 40 man raid of lvl 1s came to kill him

 

[Sanistra]

Hello is there any spot in this development project i would like to be a modeller in this project got yogg saron atm but you never answer when i PM you.

 

[takakenji]

ANOTHER hostile faction added

 

[dead-man-walking]

The HOGGER was invincible. He was an unstoppable force of nature. All fear the HOGGER!

 

[Ken-E]

the gameplay looks good, seeing small units fight each other and it would start a bloodbath. good design though.

 

[Evillizard]

That gives me an idea. If over 30 units of one player die in a region within 10 seconds all units of that team will loose moral (Will loose all armor, and get reduced damage)

 

[Biggrouse]

That gives me an idea. If over 30 units of one player die in a region within 10 seconds all units of that team will loose moral (Will loose all armor, and get reduced damage)

it's a good idea but half of the factions here wouldn't have morale

 

[Evillizard]

Work with me, we can twist things around a bit.

 

[takakenji]

might be a hard trigger and probably long, but we'll see

 

[Evillizard]

OMG
Kalimdor terrain is dun?
Need more pics :3

 

[takakenji]

yes, almost

all i need to be done aret he middle things (ashenvale, thousand needles, feralas, stuff like that) durotar is finished though

 

[Evillizard]

Demi-Hero: (Forgot name, he was the son of that demon hunter guy who was the night elf general of the war of the ancients)
His soul was extracted by Cho'gall, and put into the body of a Quiraji. Becomes a hero at level 10.

Weapon Ideas

Formation of "Ghurn, Destroyer of Mortality"
Lore: Ghurn was a great and mighty Azure dragon. When Malygos fell, he fled to Winterspring. There, when the Cataclysm accured, he was killed. When the war against deathwing went on, he was raised as and recreated into a Black Dragon. He then led many assults against Orgrimmar, until finnaly being brought down by Thrall. His head as made a trophy in the Vally of Trials. When the Silithid rose again, they sent scouts all over Kalimdor. The only scouts found where the ones in Durotar, in the Vally of Trials. The scouts took as many orcs as they could down, and almost took over the area. Before reinforcements came to the area, they took the dragon skull and retreated to Silithud. The head was brought before Cho'gall, and he presented it to C'thun. C'thun changed it into a powerful hammer, and then he gave it to (the demi hero). The weapon is very powerful, and can create an earthquake. If the demi hero is killed, then his soul will go into the hammer, and whoever next picks up the hammer can use it to morph into Ghurn.

I think there should a bunch of secret weapons that heros can get if they do events like such.

 

[Crazy Cow]

I would be willing to join on as a terrainer (I, at least, consider myself to be average). I have plenty of free time to help you out, so if you are interested just PM me. I can also do a fair amount of GUI triggering. This sounds like a pretty fun project to join, and is well thought out. Just a few tiny details:

How in the nine hells did Malfurion die? I issed that little tidbit of lore... If I'm reading other posts right, Malygos and perhaps Nozdormu are also fertilizing flowers, so who exactly died in/after Cataclysm?
The Titans, if they come, would wipe out EVERYTHING with absolutely 0 chance of being defeated, so why are they a playable race?
It would be an enormous pain to micro-manage your army if it's designed to be made of fifty+ units, due to the fact that you can only select twelve at a time. That's five or more groups you need to pay attention to, and that would be very stressful to manage to satisfaction.

 

[takakenji]

I would be willing to join on as a terrainer (I, at least, consider myself to be average). I have plenty of free time to help you out, so if you are interested just PM me. I can also do a fair amount of GUI triggering. This sounds like a pretty fun project to join, and is well thought out. Just a few tiny details:

How in the nine hells did Malfurion die? I issed that little tidbit of lore... If I'm reading other posts right, Malygos and perhaps Nozdormu are also fertilizing flowers, so who exactly died in/after Cataclysm?
The Titans, if they come, would wipe out EVERYTHING with absolutely 0 chance of being defeated, so why are they a playable race?
It would be an enormous pain to micro-manage your army if it's designed to be made of fifty+ units, due to the fact that you can only select twelve at a time. That's five or more groups you need to pay attention to, and that would be very stressful to manage to satisfaction.

actually your lore is a bit flawed

if you play WoW, we actually BEAT those titans, they arn't so almighty as we think. Also, the Pantheon which is the council of the strongest Titan's are busy with greater threats than one simple world.

also, malfurion was killed just like it says in the story

Malygos dies in Wotlk, he goes crazy and declares war on all mortal magic users believing only dragons should use magic.

Deathwing dies in Cataclysm

Nozdormu is believed to be the leader of the infinite dragonflight, though there is only one quest to prove it (a quest were you put some device which will reveal the leader of the infinite dragonflight, but an image of nozdormu ends up coming up)

also, if you've every played any other game similar to this, they ALL require microing 50+ units, so you get use to it.

and i'd be glad to have you as a terrainer, can i see some of your work first?

 

[Crazy Cow]

Alright, I read Malfurion's WoWwiki post and understand why he would die in your map, but he is (insert Monty Python quote here). Also ignore my post about the Nightmare in your ideas thread; I know what it is now. As to my sample, I'll begin working on it now. How does a mountain+desert terrain sound?

I know that Malygos is insane and Nozdormu is missing (leading the Infinite dragonflight, apparently), but was simply clarifying wether either were dead, because I have read suggestive content in the posts here. It makes sense for Malygos to be dead, making him the first on the list of dead aspects, but who will suceed him as the leader of the Blue dragonflight?

 

[takakenji]

Alright, I read Malfurion's WoWwiki post and understand why he would die in your map, but he is (insert Monty Python quote here). Also ignore my post about the Nightmare in your ideas thread; I know what it is now. As to my sample, I'll begin working on it now. How does a mountain+desert terrain sound?

I know that Malygos is insane and Nozdormu is missing (leading the Infinite dragonflight, apparently), but was simply clarifying wether either were dead, because I have read suggestive content in the posts here. It makes sense for Malygos to be dead, making him the first on the list of dead aspects, but who will suceed him as the leader of the Blue dragonflight?

without malygos, the blue dragonflight is shattered, they're already near extinction.

my idea is they're going to hide away for a couple of thousands of years, or join a side

 

[Evillizard]

Blue Dragon Flight Guy: Being a wussy for 10,000 years...
Ran away from my own homeland...
And now, you dare bring me into YOUR map?
You are not going to make me rigged...

I'd like them to be out of the game period, but meh, it's your project.

 

[Crazy Cow]

It would make sense for them to simply go into hiding. They just so happened to have pissed off every single major power in Azeroth, so at this point running and hiding would be the best option. There really isn't a side they havn't pissed off by slaying hundreds of thier members, and the other dragonflights would still be bristling for revenge. But thats just my opinion.

Just how will this game be played? Will you choose a side, like in a Melee map, and play as that? Or will you play it campaign-like, following a story?

 

[Evillizard]

It's like azzy wars. All of the story is happening at once.
And it has the same system as azzy wars.

 

[Deolrin]

actually your lore is a bit flawed

if you play WoW, we actually BEAT those titans, they arn't so almighty as we think. Also, the Pantheon which is the council of the strongest Titan's are busy with greater threats than one simple world.

also, malfurion was killed just like it says in the story

Malygos dies in Wotlk, he goes crazy and declares war on all mortal magic users believing only dragons should use magic.

Deathwing dies in Cataclysm

Nozdormu is believed to be the leader of the infinite dragonflight, though there is only one quest to prove it (a quest were you put some device which will reveal the leader of the infinite dragonflight, but an image of nozdormu ends up coming up)

also, if you've every played any other game similar to this, they ALL require microing 50+ units, so you get use to it.

and i'd be glad to have you as a terrainer, can i see some of your work first?

Mal'furion is caught in the Emerald Dream, how the hell could he be killed?

WoW lore sucks, they screwed it all up. Did you REALLY think that a bunch of lowly adventurers could beat Arthas, or, hell, even Edwin VanCleef shouldn't be killable. He's got a damn gang of expert assassins behind him. And Arthas got the whole damn scourge. And Yog'saron is a godamn Old God...

Not even in the flawed and suckish World of Warcraft did Deathwing die. It is unknown if he dies or if something like the Kael'thas encounter, or the 5-man Lich King encounter.

 

[dead-man-walking]

WoW always fucked up the story. Well, not all the time but most of the time.

 

[Evillizard]

It's better they put in known characters to fight instead of doing

"The Fitch King"
"Wait, wtf, where is arthas? We want arthas!"

Takakenji to basing the lore ontop of the WoW lore, so he needs to follow it till the end of what they've created and then he can do any of the lore that he wants.

 

[takakenji]

Mal'furion is caught in the Emerald Dream, how the hell could he be killed?

WoW lore sucks, they screwed it all up. Did you REALLY think that a bunch of lowly adventurers could beat Arthas, or, hell, even Edwin VanCleef shouldn't be killable. He's got a damn gang of expert assassins behind him. And Arthas got the whole damn scourge. And Yog'saron is a godamn Old God...

Not even in the flawed and suckish World of Warcraft did Deathwing die. It is unknown if he dies or if something like the Kael'thas encounter, or the 5-man Lich King encounter.

i'm sorry to break it to you, but when a boss is added they're going to die, even if it's another "setback" Kael'thas was STILL killed.

also, Malfurion wakes up in the Cataclysm to help defend Hyjal from Ragnaros.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Malfurion#Cataclysm

Also, Yogg-Saron had atleast a slightly legit reason to be killed, since he wasn't at full power and you get the titan's help (though, that's optional, if you want to be hardcore you can not get titan's help).

but yeah, it's bullshit, but i don't make the choices.

 

[Crazy Cow]

Ok, I have some screenies of my work so far. Just want to let you know I'm not slacking. I won't give you the map until it's done, though.

Screen 1
This is a simple army as well as my hero: the Swarm Queen. She is a summoning hero, relying on summoning minions instead of direct combat. The glowing orange thing is one of my two spellcasters, the big orange thing is a seige unit, the creature in the top left corner is a transport, and there are several Arachnathids that serve as basic fighters.
Screens 2-4
Various terrain shots. The second shot has a Nydus Crawler, a fast transport that can also carry it's cargo underground. Three and four are Harpy nests, with surrounding terrain.

 

[takakenji]

looking good

 

[Evillizard]

Are those units in the map? Mua ha ha ha ha. Sneek peak :3

 

[Crazy Cow]

I've got a lot going on right now, so I'm only going to be able to work weekends. I will, however, provide updates every weekend on my progress.

 

[Wolfe]

I believe that the Old Gods, and Kath'draku, should not be summoned by gold. Why not kills? It takes a certain amount of kills to release them. Or, you could have four warlocks or summoners chanting around the area one of the Old Gods is in and the player must protect summoners or else it costs gold to train more.