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Warcraft: A New Dawn

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You should edit out the old icon now TWIF and put in the new one.
Just saying, and never liked how Warcraft III had creeps and Starcraft didn't, but Starcraft had three races, on which Warcraft had four.
Wonder if would happen if they actually meet each other, and Thrall meeting with Zera'tul, Jaina Proudmoore with Jim Raynor, and finally the Lich King meeting with Karrigan.
Really wanted to see a expansion on where the Warcraft heroes and racers go into the Starcraft world and try to help them out.
Oh and Dentothor do you mind making me a custom icon for my project or your loyalties stay here?
I can just blabber on and on about shit, and I kinda have a idea on which people can benefit from.
Would be cool to see past gameplay in this on which Thrall has a flashback about his past and his people ready to take action against the Alliance, and the treat was signed so he still is worried that his people might attack and the members of the Horde might hold very tight grudges.
You should really have the Blood Elves on the Horde side, because well the Alliance were douchbags in the Frozen Throne, Cycle of Hatred was all about Orcs & Humans all over again and no mention of the other races. Kinda racist of Blizzard to do that.
Just kidding! ;p
FOR THE HORDE!!!
Orcs, Jungle Trolls, Tauren, Blood Elves, Forsaken, Goblins, Ogres, and other allies!
The possibilities are endless!
 
Actually there is a map like that.
It's called Blizzard Dota, google it ;)

But as for Starcraft/Warcraft III cross referencing, I'm totally against it, there's a reason BOTH series exist, making them one and the same even in just gameplay terms shouldn't be done, that's my viewpoint at any rate. I know TWIF is slightly more inclined to combine the two. Anyone else got an input on that? Generally curious :)
 
*Ahem*
What about the ones in Silvermoon under the command of Lor'themar Theron?
Just forgot about them, why don't yeah?
Just kidding! ;p
 
Oh look WoW Lore! *Reads*
I know what I'm going to do., and I'll leave out Quel'thalas and leave out the Blood Elves as well from there.
You know that the Blood Elves are probably rebuilding the kingdom, while Kael'thas and his fully chosen Blood Elves went to Outland and promised a place among them, and Rommoth was sent back to tell them of the great news.
Not saying its bad having Blood Elves under the command of Kael'thas, but come on, the kingdom of Quel'thalas and those Blood Elves still under its wing.
COME ON!!!
 
They got utterly destroyed. There's no Quel'Thalas. Period.

Also, I'm against SC cross WC too. It is just too... weird. And it does not mesh as well. There are, however, some "coincidences".

I'll shoot whoever denies that Sylvanas Windrunner is based on our loved Sarah Kerrigan.
 
No, no, no, no!
Arthas is based on Kerrigan.

In Warcraft IV - The Wings of Vanity (blizz version)
You'll play Jaina sailing around on a ship called the Typherion and collect random artifacts that never existed before but have something to do with demons or the Draenai.
You'll then work on 'undermining' Sylvanas (female mengkst?) as she's the biggest threat with Arthas in the north, she has Lordaeron (human kingdom) under her grasp bla bla bla

Then Jaina will realise she can't win and run off to find Arthas, he'll turn good and then we'll all realise they are ACTUALLY THE SAME THING! :O

.....

As you can see I have way too much time on my hands that I should be putting towards this mod rather than thinking up blizz conspiracy theories. :3

.....

Good night from me.


P.S.

On a serious note, there are elves but they are not blood elves. The only the elves that survived (in great number) were the ones far from Quel'Thalas and hence the sunwell. They weren't so attuned to the flow of it's magic and hence don't feel that 'withdrawal' or 'addiction' to it (which is really what characterises blood elves?).

Blood Elves + Illidan? I'm not saying anything yet, that's a whole release away D:

I plan to add more lore to the site over the weekend, so check up on that if your curious, or if you want to know something specific post here begging me and I'll put that up perhaps ;)
 
BAH. all these contradictory themes about what blood elves are and arent get me confused. i need some art. im looking at post thinking TL;DR

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By the way, I just watched that video grey posted about the possible way Wc3 was going to go, and I think it's brilliant. I would highly suggest following that path for PART of the campaign.

The reason I say part is, because it is such a different and big change it wouldn't be smart to alienate the RTS aspect so much. Instead, I believe we should have rts missions in the campaign with RPS missions inserted between rts missions.

So for example, one mission is a big RTS mission and when you complete it, the story either changes or goes into detail involving a hero/main character or a small party.
 
Wings of Vanity/Liberty. Right. Blizzard does have a lot of creativity these days, aight?
What you said makes sense. Maybe Kerrigan's part Arthas part Sylvanas. Her part sylvanas was a excellent soldier, transformed into a monster by fate, and desires to return to its previous form, although using up all the power of her current form. As Arthas, after transforming she completely lost her mind, and began amassing a enormous and incredible force, and may or may not want to return to its previous form. Although it is hard, since he teorically lost all feelings and etc. Also, wouldn't Blizz's WC4 follow up after WoW? It is strange to create two separate, alternate storylines. No one ever did this before... Did they? Not a video game company, I mean.
 
Haha cheers, nice to know we have some support piwlady :)

Taylor yes, it baffles and annoys me. They have several seperate death models for every unit instead of various death anims. It's going to prove problematic because even with importing wow models when they die it doesn't play the death anim, we'll have to copy, edit and reimport death models.. ._.
 
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Haha cheers, nice to know we have some support piwlady :)

Taylor yes, it baffles and annoys me. They have several seperate death models for every unit instead of various death anims. It's going to prove problematic because even with importing wow models when they die it doesn't play the death anim, we'll have to copy, edit and reimport death models.. ._.
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I've found a work around this, we just have to use proper events for each actor.

Right now I got the peon model you sent me to die properly without a separate death model or actor.
 
Oh f*** lol, totally forgot I promised that :D
*insert made up excuse*

Actually I'm not like the rest of those modders, if I promise something I try my upmost to deliver... I'll get right on it ;)


EDIT: Just might be a couple of hours, got some other mod related stuff to do D;
*breaks into singing* and yeahahhhh... I DO IT ALL FOR YOU!

EDIT2: Just had a huge, unexpected but highly useful discussion (and AGREEMENT (for once!)) about certain gameplay aspects and directions of the mod that I can't talk about right now (how many times have you heard that? no it doesn't mean we didn't do anything it means were not going to tell you! Why? I don't freaking know, probably because we feel cool and powerful knowing something you don't? Yeah I know you know stuff I don't know. Nice try I'm not going to trade).

Anyway didn't get the lore done... hehe... I'll definitely put something up tomorrow - if I can be bothered getting up early, I'll do it then else, after work. IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC YOU WANT TO KNOW LORE WISE (related to humans/orcs)? I can't promise I'll answer but seeing as I didn't deliver today, I feel inclined to give you a little something, so a choice in what I reveal is yours to some degree :D (if you post b4 I get round to it... 6-14hrs)

EDIT3: Roarman has been doing some AMAZING data stuff, he's been working on stuff I feel I can talk about, but meh, I'll let him do it because I'm feeling lazy right now.

-> It involves... a Great Hall, Peons... Other Structures and resources. :)
and it's a lot more exciting than it sounds! HONEST D:
 
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Ok so I didn't get any lore done... but! I did do some site work, I went on to do some lore and then realised... I didn't like the background section in some ways, for e.g. it doesn't actually tell you what page your on so I messed around with that, it now highlights your page on the navbar. :D

Also changed some pictures, fonts, textsize and layout a tad'
All ready for lore additions throughout the week!

Factions? Alright, Forsaken and Theramore coming up!


And we've advanced on the hero idea somewhat, probably more on that much later in the month - see how TWIF gets on with it.

EDIT: The background page will wipe your current page when you highlight a subsection, this is necessary for the highlighting nav bit to work properly - I won't go into details but please don't complain, why are you moving your mouse up there if your not going to change page anyway!? :D
 
Don't panic guys!
Twif isn't going anywhere he just wants more time to work in the editor and techtrees so I'll be taking over the majority of the visible managment duties.

Thanks for that :)

Now I'll see about updating that ancient first post later today!

EDIT: Wha? Oh TWIF could edit your stuff out when I add the new stuff (it'll be later when were both on skype) - two main posts will be confuzzling :D
 
Looks the like the first post got jazzed up lol.

Oh yea so I'm the new data dude. Just updating folks on our progress and we've got Tier 1 for orcs completed and the resource system for gold mines and lumber harvesting is functioning.

I think we're making great progresss ^^
 
Juggling what to work on next, lore as previously promised? Some dev diary videos? Character artwork (not unit/building concepts, but lore chars)? Or site enhancements (goodies, etc) or anything else... TWIF? Community?

Pfft could even compose some music... Probably leave that to Wolfy though... :D
 
pfft hell no, it was more of a personal joke ^_^
I only play Bass, and not even really amazing at that yet.

As far as composition goes... *does the over my head gesture*
And bass+classical game music? ^^

Besides you and math are doing a great job, really looking forward to your next piece =D
 
The Facebook page?
Yeah I don't bother updating it too much (I still do occasionally), it has very few likes at the moment - so I see little point - fb photo upload is also stupid and ruins a lot of uploaded images!! >.<

What did you have in mind for it (and you did mean facebook right? ^^)?
Also Taylor could do with some skins as he asked above, if your up to that kind of thing?
 
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