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So im getting a new computer and it has Vista, but I've heard so many times, that XP is faster and doesnt error so much as Vista, so XP is better? Are the differences between these two things big? And does WC3 and GTA IV work with Vista!?! Yes, stupid guestions, but bahh. :/
 
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I'd say that it's not worth the cost and that you should wait for Windows 7 to come.

Edit: Typo
 
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Well theres a "packet" in Jimm's PC that costs 169.00€ and countains the following things:
- Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit OEM käyttöjärjestelmä (Vista home premium 32bit)
- F-Secure Internet Scurity 2009, palomuuri / virus tutka 1 vuoden lisenssi(F-Secure 2009 for 1 year)
- Käyttöjärjestelmän, virustutkan ja ajureiden asennus (installing of OS, virus radar(?) and drivers)

And on Microsoft.com Vista home premium costs 259.95$ or maybe I understood it in wrong way.
 
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Super-Sheep said:
I translated some part of the text into english, if you didnt notice.
Oh yea, I didn't notice.

Super-Sheep said:
For me Vista just looks like an advanced version of XP after I did read http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...a/default.aspx stuff. Does Vista have anything to do with the games? (I know it is a little slower, or so I have heard/read)
I actually bought a laptop with Vista few months ago. Vista have a lot of different kind of new things and because I'm lazy, I never like to learn new things which means I use Windows XP. And yeah, it's little like improved version of XP.

  • So, if you are going to buy a powerful computer, I suggest Vista.
  • If you want more option and you are willing to learn new things, I suggest Vista.
  • If you have enough money, I suggest Vista.
  • If you download a lot of games and programs from internet, I suggest XP.
  • If you buy average computer, I suggest XP.
  • If you buy your computer apart I suggest XP(can it be bought anymore)?
  • If you know something about cracking and you know how to do fake windows, I suggest you to make a fake windows. No need to pay anything(I hate windows because it's company with almost totally monopoly).

If you ask my opinion, I like a lot more XP than Vista. I like to do everything with simple ways.
 
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Aeroblyctos said:
So, if you are going to buy a powerful computer, I suggest Vista.
Is this a "powerful" computer. I guess that it is. jimm's PC-Store Oy
Its in finnish, but you understand it (or you should), cuz you come from Finland.

Aeroblyctos said:
If you want more option and you are willing to learn new things, I suggest Vista.
Yes I want more, but learning doesnt sound good. :eek:

Aeroblyctos said:
If you have enough money, I suggest Vista.
I dont think that the money would be a problem.

Aeroblyctos said:
If you download a lot of games and programs from internet, I suggest XP.
Dont know.. I think no.

Aeroblyctos said:
If you buy average computer, I suggest XP.
Nawh.

Aeroblyctos said:
If you buy your computer apart I suggest XP(can it be bought anymore)?
I've read that it is possible to downgrade Vista to XP. How to Downgrade from Vista to XP - Solutions by PC Magazine

Aeroblyctos said:
If you know something about cracking and you know how to do fake windows, I suggest you to make a fake windows. No need to pay anything(I hate windows because it's company with almost totally monopoly).
I know something about cracking, but dont get the fake windows part...


/sleep
 
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I use a vista machine... it's liveable but after christmas I'm wiping the Hardrive and installing XP instead.
Vista requires loike 1gb RAM, and my laptop has 2gb and it's still slower then my last laptop which had xp on it and only 512mb ram.
Everything I fucking do requires me to give permission, and every day I have a problem where windows explorer has to restart.
Seriously... You'll grow to HATE Vista.
There is more support available for XP also!
 
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I have 2 Vista laptops and I hate them so much. Vista takes perfectly fine hardware and turns it into shit. Everything that should be working fine manages to fuck up because Vista sucks so hard.

And on desktops, oh yes. I had it installed for a day and couldn't stand how bad it was, thus, I reinstalled XP Pro later that day, and carried on with my life.

Vista= Avoid at all costs. 32 Bit or 64 Bit.
 
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I like XP better... It's like a prison using Windows Vista Starter...

I just wish Windows 7 will be good... Cause Vista is not something I'd get even if it was the latest...

I told them to repair my PC...

NOT TURN IT INTO THIS... THING YOU CALL ADVANCED AND BETTER...

But, in the end most programs work flawlessly, some are just plain stupidified...

Saddest part is that I can't run more than 3 programs...
 
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We me break it down for you.
On facepunch forums we had a nearly one year debate about this.
Vista is for high end computers, like gaming rigs.
Xp is for low end $500 computers.
Vista 64x is the one that sucks 100%..it cant run anything...
But normal 32x is GREAT.


On vista once you turn off all of its crappy security programs it runs so much better then XP.


also most if not all rumors of vista are either from the 64x or people who have crappy computers. The way it works is vista = next gen, Most computers people have are office computers which are old ass last gen.
 
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Vista is anything but next gen. It's previous gen. They took XP and made it so much worse. So much worse.

It's not for high end computers at all. High end computers should have high end performance, for example, Windows XP Professional or Media Center.

Low-end computers, on the other hand, can have Vista, these people don't care if their Windows is a broken piece of shit, so they've earned it.

You once again try and break me. You can't.

I don't have a crappy computer. 4 Gb's of the best DDR2, 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, and an ATi HD2600 XT 512.

If you know anything about hardware, you'd know that those are some pretty decent stats. Far beyond the recommended requirements for Vista.

And I'll have you know that it still ran like the slow cantankerous piece of shit it is on my computer. It runs like that on both of my laptops, even with their brand new beefy hardware.

It gobbles RAM like a fat kid gobbles cake, it's such a resource hog, and all the shitty bloatware that comes along with it just makes it even more of a hog, and slows shit down even more.

They tried to make it like OS X, and they failed.
 
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I use a vista machine... it's liveable but after christmas I'm wiping the Hardrive and installing XP instead.
Vista requires loike 1gb RAM, and my laptop has 2gb and it's still slower then my last laptop which had xp on it and only 512mb ram.
Everything I fucking do requires me to give permission, and every day I have a problem where windows explorer has to restart.
Seriously... You'll grow to HATE Vista.
There is more support available for XP also!


If you have 2GB you will have 1.8G to use, i say it used maybe 10-20% of RAM, also the permission thing is very easy to get used too.. If it had less then 1GB RAM then get more RAM or a new computer, because you wont be able to do shit with half a GB of RAM with Vista.

I have used vista for over a year, I used to be a pure Vista hater, becayse I was ignorant and listened to ignorant people who often hate it for stupid reasons, lot of reasons is they used older buggy version, which XP has had that too, so automatically to them Vista fails, they couldn't hack it at first, it backfired, it was a way different layout, and takes getting used to, people HATE change, least the majourity do.

I've used 1GM ram for my comp with vista and it was a gaming computer, honestly, Vista is better for the newer games(past few year games) it runs them better performance wise and such, Vista has WAY better security, Permission thing is annoying at first but VERY easy to get used too, trust me I know. Vista uses up a lot of resources, mainly RAM/Physical memory, which is why you want at least 2GB RAM or more, then your computer will run just fine. Also it has another issue but its fixed very easy, its restore point feature was setup so it has no limit on how much space it will take up, unless you put in a small command to make it like 2B, I had this prob and it took like 20G of space.


TO be honest, just ignore what Vista-haters say about Vista, half of them have either never tried it or find one different feature and hate the system. Guaranteed you will enjoy it, it has VERY useful features that XP doesn't have that makes things so much easier, I'll make a screenie of a example

ImageShack - Image Hosting :: vistascreenah8.jpg

See my task bar on the side? You cant do that on XP, well you can but all it does is turn it sideways and mess it up, this taskbar, allows more space for links, easy quick acess, like at top left, those shortcuts, and bottom left, rest of that space can be for links, which XP only holds like what? 4? 5 links tops, or "browser" would be a better term to use, also look at bottom... You cant do that on XP, and believe me, that at the bottom is extremely useful, even for gaming, or if you plug in flashsticks a lot.

Yes it has its quirks, so did XP, and they fixed it, this time so many people bitched about it, when 1.5/3 of them never even tried it.


Just ignore what people say, never judge before you try it. Try it first, I hated it, it was gonna be on my new comp and i wanted my comp nuked and given XP, and my brother convinced me to try it at least... I freaking loved it, better features, and looks a lot better.

Though Windows 7 will be the Exact same thing, only it wont have the RAM issue, and it will run more efficiently and faster, which was the issue in Vista. They said Windows 7 is just a improved version of Vista
 
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Did you read a thing I said? I just destroyed everything in your post, buddy.

Vista still blows, it's a commercial failure, and MS is trying to sweep it under the rug to usher in Windows 7.

You make broad claims with no factual basis whatsoever. Newer games still perform better on XP, because it takes less resources to run XP while you play your games, as opposed to Vista.
 
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Did you read a thing I said? I just destroyed everything in your post, buddy.

Vista still blows, it's a commercial failure, and MS is trying to sweep it under the rug to usher in Windows 7.

True, but why is Micro$oft still running those retarted "Mojave" commercials?

Mojave is a scam. They got to watch a salesman do stuff on the computer for 15 minutes, only watching certain tasks being performed. They didn't use Vista. *shudders*
 
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Nope, didn't even read this page, i was replying to a different post.

Vista blows is a matter of opinion not fact, some people like me love vista.
 
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Nope, didn't even read this page, i was replying to a different post.

Vista blows is a matter of opinion not fact, some people like me love vista.
You can love Windows Millenium, but it still wouldn't change the fact that it is the worst piece of software ever created. Just because you can have an opinion, that doesn't make you right.
 
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True, but why is Micro$oft still running those retarted "Mojave" commercials?

Mojave is a scam. They got to watch a salesman do stuff on the computer for 15 minutes, only watching certain tasks being performed. They didn't use Vista. *shudders*

You wanna know why Mojave even exists? Because everyone hates Vista, because it's a terrible OS. And instead of making Vista better, MS is spending way too much money on Mojave in an attempt to make everyone *think* Vista is better than it really is.

Of course, they failed at that too, since everyone who's seen a Mojave commercial afterward just thinks "WTF" rather than "Oh, hey, that Microsoft Windows Vista Operating System sure sounds swell! I'm going to run out and purchase it now!".
 
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*Yawn* XP is like loving a apple 2.
Just becuase you can not afford vista, does not mean you gotta make up crap about it aye...
 
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Matter of opinion brad.

Now, saying in general that Vista sucks is not the correct answer.

I have 32 bit and its quite XP like...

And I haven't encountered a program that doesn't work with Vista... And hope that I'd never...

Also, the Mojava crap, first it was 0, now it was a 10...

No one's being a critic anymore...
 
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*Yawn* XP is like loving a apple 2.
Just becuase you can not afford vista, does not mean you gotta make up crap about it aye...

I should delete this post because it's so detrimental to the discussion. READ THE FUCKING THREAD FIRST.

I have 32 Bit Vista. A world of shit does not work with it. Ask Ralle. Ralle will tell you all about how bad Vista's core is. Samuraid will tell you why he doesn't use Vista (Or XP for that matter).

And he's right. Windows 2000 really is the best incarnation of Windows period. XP comes pretty close, but 2000 runs the best overall.
 
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Brad, you should really calm down, instead of acting like a pissed off badass(no offense) just state your opinions on it and if you have some, state some actual facts about it, not "VISTA BLOWS" "VISTA IS A COMPLETE FAILURE!" Yea vista isn't perfect, I'll agree, every version of Vista people have does have kinks, they don't all have them. Mine runs pretty fast, the only issue I have had with it, is that it eats a small chunk of your space, including if you don't set limits with its amount of usage. Restore point is a very good example, if you don't set the maximum amount of space it will use for restore point, then there is nothing stopping it from consuming 30GB of space, I gained 19.5GB back, and made it so it will only go as far as @GB I think it was. Some people have bad experiences with it, older versions I agree were pretty shitty. Not all copies of Vista people get are the same, some people experience different problems, in your case it ran pretty slow, that could have been the copy of the game or some of the specs you had that may have caused it to run slow, how high it is doesn't mean it will actually run fast, if its put together right maybe.

Mine runs perfectly fine, its fast and everything, the only issue I had was the amount of storage space that it was using, which I fixed and doesn't make a huge difference with real gamers, because lot of them will get nowadays like 300GB+ which is ridicules for gaming lol. Also the other issue I had was it used a chunk of your RAM while just doing nothing, if you have less then 1GB, then get more ram or don't get Vista, because its hard for gaming and hard to do most games, get 2GB or higher and you will do fine.

Brad I don't know why you have a short temper, but you don't have to act all pissed off, and how you stated your info in your "bad ass" mood it makes it seem like your implying you know everything, and everything you say is fact.

Also Gikon, most computers nowadays come with Vista, lot of times free, least with Dell I think. And what you said has little to do with why people dislike it. If you take out the ignorant people that have never tried it, then the number of people who hate Vista, almost cuts in half.
 
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See, this is what you don't seem to get.

If you actually read my posts, you'd realize WHY I hate Vista so much, and why it does, in fact, actually blow.

I'm not just spouting mindless trolling shit, I actually back up my facts based on information and experiences I've gathered.
 
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yes I know but your saying it as in your in a shitty bad ass mood, its how you phrased what you said and how you typed it.
 
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Nothing personal here, but this is becoming a bit heated and counterproductive.

Vista has some flaws, and it also has some nice features. I think we can all agree on that.

That said...
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