Upgraded Unit Trouble

[Chapter Serf]

So I've created two units in the same vein as the Melee Orc Troll Headhunter/Berserker: a unit that starts out as one type, and can be upgraded through tech to another. However, when I put the upgraded version (I had forgotten to do that) in the unit-training building, the upgraded version appears just as equally trainable as the unupgraded version, even without the upgrade tech researched. Any clues as to what I did wrong? I've checked and double-checked the vanilla Orc techs and units and everything appears to be the same.

I can't uploaded my .w3o file sadly... If you want any pictures, please let me know what to take them of.

 

[Pyrogasm]

Do you have "techtree - Check dependencies" set to true on the upgraded unit? And Does it have your berserker upgrade listed under "upgrades used"? Nope.

 

[Tasyen]

There was nothing done wrong, you are just not finished yet.
You need to disable training the better unit for all players on map init.
Even blizzard did it that way for any map in some function in blizzard.j, which is kinda hidden for users.

 

[Chapter Serf]

There was nothing done wrong, you are just not finished yet.
You need to disable training the better unit for all players on map init.
Even blizzard did it that way for any map in some function in blizzard.j, which is kinda hidden for users.

So do I need to actually make a trigger or something for every map that deals with this?
Edit: Like this?

 

[Tasyen]

Yeah kinda, but I think that the enabling can be done in the object editor.
Only player 13 is able to built that unit?

If any player can you need to use "do for playergroup all players"
Picked Player

 

[Chapter Serf]

I can't seem to find any enabling/disabling like that in the Object Editor... I may be looking at the wrong place? I don't know.

 

[Tasyen]

checkout steam tank tech "multishot" or troll -> berserk.

 

[Pyrogasm]

You can automate it a little bit like this:

• Actions
  • Player Group - Pick every player in (All Players) and do (Actions)
    • Loop - Actions
      • Player - Make UNIT unavailable for training by (picked player)

 

[Chapter Serf]

I followed the Troll Berserker pretty much to the letter I think. Heck, I think I even used the Troll stuff as a basis, just changed names and applied upgrades where needed.

This map here has the units. Look under the Custom Undead units for Abomination (Blood Elf) and Hardened Abomination.

 

[Jaina Proudless]

It's not in the object editor but one of the special windows in the advanced tab. You can limit the availability of spells, upgrades, units etc. However it's no different than using triggers but I think using trigfers is better because that other tab has problem viewing custom units.

 

[Death Adder]

the thing that turns existing units into their upgraded version is the "Berserker Upgrade" passive ability, it works exactly like chaos upgrade (fel orcs).

Spoiler: passive ability screenshot

the thing that makes the upgraded unit type version available and the original version unavailable is the upgrade, just copy the "Berserker Upgrade" upgrade.

Spoiler: upgrade screenshot

the thing that makes the upgraded unit type unavailable at the beginning of the game is using trigger or going to the techtree availability in the advanced tab.

p.s. like mentioned elsewhere, it's easier and more convenient to just use a trigger to do the same thing, even blizzard did that for melee.


Also, don't forget to add the upgraded version of the unit to units that can be trained for your barracks in the object editor (though you seem to already have this part covered since you could build both versions.)

 

[Chapter Serf]

So I have to start off with the upgraded version unavailable in the techtree window. Got it.

Thank you!