Two Worlds

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Orcnet

09:16, 10th Aug 2013

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Review

Map Approved

Two Worlds (No Version/s Stated) Rate Score Percent Letter 5/5 91-100 A Rate Score Percent Letter 4/5 81-90% B Rate Score Percent Letter 3/5 75-80% C Rate Score Percent Letter 2/5 70-74% D Rate Score Percent Letter 1/5 50-69% F Overview: Gameplay "The strategic idea is good I like how you used a unique style of SFX and make it a different look to those way gates, but they are some problems going on to those way gates mainly, most of the way gates keeps returning back to the top player main base, I don't know why and its problematic to reach bottom player's main base, could you rework the drop positions? and it would be great if you can give them color codes(rune, wisp sfx, etc.) or any possible measures that the player won't get lost along the way." Terrain "Terrain is majestic and brightly new, you made it like a maze of some sort, which is great although your still lacking some air path blockers at the near bottom of the player blue because some air units can actually go through there and ends up flying across the map." Management "Overall map is good and served to be recommended." Total Score: Rate Score Percent Letter 10/15 83% B

 

[Theoden of KoMe]

Yestarday you congratulated me for my activity and my reviews.Since you asked me to review some of your maps here you go.Btw idk if im too harsh or too soft.Thats my opinion dude.

Ok here is my review.

Good Things

-Exclusive , if i may say, terrian and generally idea of the ....errr.... i dont know the word but i will call it ''way'' of the map.
-Very good idea with the waygates system
-Well placed starting locations and expantions
-Exellent descreption if i may say

Bad Things

-I belive that there are too few creeps for early game.Something i like in melee maps is early creeping.With 3 green and 2 orange there is nothing much to do...
-Small expantions if i may say.
-A mistake in descreption.Its 24 waygatees not 26 .Or i counted wrong
-Few doodads.Or im used to see Fully use doodadas in maps that they totally overhelm them

Suggestions?

-You could add like 3-4 creep camps.2 green and 1-2 orange at least.
-1 more gold mine?.Cause expantions are really vunerable when the enemy knows you are there.
-Fix the waygate descreption.Or if im bad at counting just kill me
-some more doodads near the waygates and in the middle one.
-Terrian can always be improved.If you like so

Rate:

Terrian 3/5
Units 2/5
Doodads 3/5
Descreption 4/5

Grand total : 3/5

Note:A good melee map.I played it vs comp(insane).Althought im good vs insane lvl , it was kinda hard to me cause of too much waygates.The comp just had no problem attacking my expantion all the timeGood job.Oh and +rep for a good map

 

[Legal_Ease]

This map looks really great, but I want screenies! I often view maps at work and don't download them until I get home. (hope my boss is not a member here). Anyway, I looked in your album and found nothing from this map. Also, your title is off center. Add a

to the whole description to fix it. I don't know why the Hive has that dumb scroll thing there that throws the alignment off, but its there. Anyway, I will probably download your map anyway, because I know your work is quality. EDIT: oooooh, I really like it! This looks freak'n great man, nice work!!!

 

[sonofjay]

Review:

The terrain layout of Two Worlds is probably the best that I have ever seen since Misha and Ken-E's collaboration work "Archipelago". Its daring yet sweet for my taste with nice idea of way gate making it one hell of a maze for first timer not to mention that your designing is really solid with great mix of the Sunken and Ashen's trees combined with great use of environmental doodads and great tile brushing. Someone might not care on this much but I love that some places are slightly elevated.

About the gameplay, the way gates is probably its best selling point as it makes strategy freak like me jump for joy. But something out there frustrates me and that is the lack of neutral buildings some mercenary camps and a couple of fountain is critical for a small 1 v 1 map and also the number of neutral creeps is low or at least its total level I would prefer to have a couple of red camp out there. Oh and speaking of creep camps, what the hell does the Void Dragon doing out there with the Hydras? I know they are passive but its just awkward that I pulled back my army because I saw a void dragon with hydras.

Well the to simply put it Two World is a very unique melee map with a splendid layout and solid designing. 5/5

P.S.

I know I already told you this on chat but this need to be part of the review. The bases are too small.

 

[sonofjay]

Review on my reserved post.

And damn someone is changing his score to 1/5 because he felt offended?

 

[deathismyfriend]

Where did I saw the 1/5 then? Oh god I'm hallucinating.

Well melee map is not for everyone since its for players who really just spend time on this genre.

Thats true.

Also its simply to tell someone they reviewed something wrong. Everyone makes mistakes.
I never reviewed a melee map b4.

 

[CroMoX]

i didnt change my rating lol. Im not petty the map was just boring to me.

Also idc what anyone says with that tone.
Im not going to get offended by some little post on a thread.



thanks for actually saying what it was. I was under the wrong impression when reviewing map.
Still tho the gameplay is lacking so im not going to change my rating.
Maybe if you balance the 2 sides a little more

Don't review melees then idiot. Every melee will have the same gameplay making your point of leaving your rating low redundant. So go back to forum dwelling, thanks!

 

[deathismyfriend]

Don't review melees then idiot. Every melee will have the same gameplay making your point of leaving your rating low redundant. So go back to forum dwelling, thanks!

see comments like this i just disregard.

Everyone makes mistakes its as simple as that.

@ Map maker
I think that the 2 sides can be balanced better. Balance them then ill change my review its as simple as that. dont balance them and review stays.
Also sry for the earlier bad review. That was my mistake for not knowing enough on the classifications of game types.

Edit: New review updated to properly reflect the game type. If there is anything wrong just calmly say so. I am reasonable and if I'm wrong i will gladly change it to reflect the right way.

“Modified Review Inside“

REVIEW

Melee Map Review

TERRAIN	The terrain is interesting and good. 5/5
GAMEPLAY	There can be more creeps in beginning. The sides should be balanced a little more. It’s to easy to take over the gold mines from the other player. Maybe try some more creeps to stop you from getting the gold mines so easily. 1/5
FINAL RATING	Can use some improvements. It’s not a bad map and after playing more I will change rating to 3/5 Balance a little more and this could easily be a 4/5 or 5/5 3/5 Approvable

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If you have any questions or problems with my review please tell me. Original Review Template by Doomlord.

 

[deathismyfriend]

@Dimf: I think a reviewer should be proficient about what they are reviewing, they are supposed to see what the creator cannot and thus helps improve/polish the resource.

A wrong review pisses others off much worse than a wrong comment because the word "review" carries a great weight. People expect the reviews to be professional and insightful, not "taking a guess".

That being said, you shouldn't be troubled by the negative comments directed at your review. They aren't unjustified.

ik they werent unjustified. I was just under the wrong impression of what a melee map actually was. I played a lot of what were called melee maps but were actually altered melee maps when i first started playing wc3. Thats why i got messed up. I recently updated the review as the old one was a horrible one and there comments were warranted.

 

[Orcnet]

Just when I was suppose to post this image:

I realize I am Souperman

Thread cleaned.

 

[sonofjay]

You're so damn late Orcy, everything was settled down a few hours ago.

And you deleted DeathismyFriend's legit review.

 

[Orcnet]

Totally worth it.

 

[sonofjay]

Totally worth it.

 

[CroMoX]

Map is splendid and I love the use of way points

5/5

 

[Remixer]

sonofjay, I updated the map before you gave the review, the bases are slighty bigger now.

Orcnet, was kinda hoping for you to moderate it

 

[Orcnet]

Pardon me for that, map is approved and see moderator comment on top.

 

[Remixer]

Orcnet, thanks for poiting the issue with way gates out. They are now fixed and should work properly. However I was not able to find the hole in the Air Blockers >.< I could not find it nor I could get my air units away from the base.

 

[Wazzz]

the screenies look really nice, i'm going to have to take a closer look some time :3

 

[Twilight]

Comment

The map is epic, description is gr8
_______________
Rating:
5/5

Terrain

Terrain is awsome, no words for terrain
___________________
Rating:
5/5

Gameplay

A regular melee map is epic terrain
____________________
Rating:
4/5

Final Rating:

Terrain:5/5
Gameplay:4/5
Comment:5/5

FINAL RATING:
4.6/5

Suggestions
-No suggestions

 

[CroMoX]

Comment

The map is epic, description is gr8
_______________
Rating:
5/5

Terrain

Terrain is awsome, no words for terrain
___________________
Rating:
5/5

Gameplay

A regular melee map is epic terrain
____________________
Rating:
4/5

Final Rating:

Terrain:5/5
Gameplay:4/5
Comment:5/5

FINAL RATING:
4.6/5

Suggestions
-No suggestions

Wouldn't 4.6 be rounded to 5

 

[Twilight]

Your right, ok 5/5 it is

 

[CroMoX]

Your right, ok 5/5 it is

lol it says 3/5 now

 

[Twilight]

lol it says 3/5 now

I cant rate from my phone. that is why is shows 3/5
It was a misstake

 

[IlsNt.RiTz]

Nice Map~! I love the idea of customized way points.. Great Job!!!

4.5/5

 

[JCarrill0]

So it's a nagrand tileset?!!!

 

[Remixer]

I did not really understand what you mean (googled nagrand). But still didn't understand it.

 

[JCarrill0]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Warcraft+Nagrand

 

[Mechanical Man]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Warcraft+Nagrand

He probably thought about editor tilesets

 

[JCarrill0]

He probably thought about editor tilesets

ah ok, lol I was like.. what?!!

 

[Remixer]

I have no idea of any wow places so this is just a creation of my mind.

 

[JCarrill0]

I have no idea of any wow places so this is just a creation of my mind.

which make it even more awesome!

 

[deepstrasz]

-the Void Dragon has the soundset of an Albatross

 

[Remixer]

-the Void Dragon has the soundset of an Albatross

Thank you, fixed.

 

[AditTechno]

Review

Just reviewing your map.

Balance

The map is well-balanced. I like the style there. But you lack of neutral buildings. I can see tavern, goblin merchant, and two other gold mines only. It's a little dangerous to get a second hero from the tavern. It's better to have Fountain. Also you lack of creep camps. The most powerful creep is level 7, no red camps, and the bases are small too.

Ambience and Aesthetics

The map terrain is well-made. The trees are the combination of SR tree and Ashenvale tree. The ground terrains are also good. This map is really not a good place for air units. The sky and weather is also good. But can you make a collision on the other portal? I have a problem there. I'll explain it down.

Creativity

I like it how you made it like outland. By separating the islands. And it's good you used custom models for the way gates.

Something i encountered in gameplay

1. There are two way gates in our main base. One of them has collision and the other doesn't. To protect my base, i keep the distance of my buildings away from the collisioned way gate. The other gate was undefended. And i was surprised the enemy could enter there. Is it a bug or you created them? You should add a collision in it, and i should play this map well.
2. Did you add Void Dragon to your map? Because they are invisible and when i check your map in the editor, there are. What are they doing here?

Conclusion

Hope you can fix the things i explained.

This is a really well-made map. I like your execution. 5/5

 

[Remixer]

The teleports, that's how it's supposed to be... hmmm I might change it though. The original idea was for the attacking team to have a risk when entering from the "one-way" teleporter for they had no way out then.

The void dragons, they should still be shown in game.