Troublesome Model. Any ideas?

[RED BARON]

I made a model from sratch, animated it (correctly), textured it, changed the mdl to show the anims, made particle effects for death and attack animations.

Testet in Magos, all worked perfectly, the particle effects showed up in their right animations, all anims worked.

Then jsut before uploading to hive I thought I better check it in WEU, but strange enough only death anim worked, and the particle effects was there all time, never disappeared or similar.
So nothing worked as It did in Magos.. any ideas?

btw: If you need the model to solve this pm me.

 

[donut3.5]

When dealing with visibility, you MUST set the first frame of every animation to be either visible or invisible or it will cause bugs.
The first frame of the animation must be set, then in the middle and end you can do whatever you want.
--donut3.5--

 

[RED BARON]

When dealing with visibility, you MUST set the first frame of every animation to be either visible or invisible or it will cause bugs.
The first frame of the animation must be set, then in the middle and end you can do whatever you want.
--donut3.5--

What? Dont quite get what you mean?

The mdl for anims looks like this:

}
Model "RED BARON" {
BlendTime 100,
MinimumExtent { -16.592737, -27.176205, 0.000000 },
MaximumExtent { 21.197104, 21.001450, 23.026812 },
BoundsRadius 32.708534,
}
Sequences 5 {
Anim "Death" {
Interval { 4305, 6150 },
NonLooping,
MinimumExtent { -16.592737, -27.176205, 0.000000 },
MaximumExtent { 21.197104, 21.001450, 23.026812 },
BoundsRadius 32.708534,
}
Anim "Stand" {
Interval { 2993, 4100 },
MinimumExtent { -16.592737, -27.176205, 0.000000 },
MaximumExtent { 21.197104, 21.001450, 23.026812 },
BoundsRadius 32.708534,
}
Anim "Attack" {
Interval { 861, 1640 },
NonLooping,
MinimumExtent { -16.592737, -27.176205, 0.000000 },
MaximumExtent { 21.197104, 21.001450, 23.026812 },
BoundsRadius 32.708534,
}
Anim "Stand 1" {
Interval { 1681, 2870 },
MinimumExtent { -16.592737, -27.176205, 0.000000 },
MaximumExtent { 21.197104, 21.001450, 23.026812 },
BoundsRadius 32.708534,
}
Anim "Walk" {
Interval { 41, 820 },
MinimumExtent { -16.592737, -27.176205, 0.000000 },
MaximumExtent { 21.197104, 21.001450, 23.026812 },
BoundsRadius 32.708534,
}

Anything wrong there?

 

[donut3.5]

For visibility, the first frame of every animation must be set. For instance, if death is 200-800, and you wanted him to disappear at 600, this this incorrect:

0: 1
600: 0

This is correct:

0: 1
200: 1
600: 0

You have to set the first frame of every animation for visibility. It will usually not make a difference in Magos, but it will ingame.
--donut3.5--

 

[Guessed]

I'd put your animations in order. Like the lower-frame ones earlier. I'm not sure that it causes a problem, but it is certainly not normal.

 

[RED BARON]

I'd put your animations in order. Like the lower-frame ones earlier. I'm not sure that it causes a problem, but it is certainly not normal.

Having no idea what your talking about.. I can say that the oroder of the anims have no influence at all....

Okay Donut, but I am unsure where you put that code..

 

[donut3.5]

In the visibility modifiers. Like the field where you check the visibility box and you write what sequences are visible and not visible.
--donut3.5--

 

[RED BARON]

In the visibility modifiers. Like the field where you check the visibility box and you write what sequences are visible and not visible.
--donut3.5--

Still dont get it...

what if I send you the mdl?

 

[donut3.5]

Send me the .mdx...
--donut3.5--

 

[RED BARON]

I have... comments? the problem still exist

 

[Guessed]

If you're confident that your misordered animations are not the problem, then OK. But what I meant was that normally animations are listed with the ones that occupy lower frames first. Like first there would be one with 100-400, and then one that is 560-920, and so on (rather than 560-920 and then 100-400). In yours, they are not sorted like that.

You might also want to describe what you mean by the animation not working. Is the model not showing up, or is it not animated?

 

[sk8er754]

=O

How did u texture your custom made model? I make custom models but I have no idea how to texture them =|. Theirs no tutorials for doing that :|.

 

[RED BARON]

If you're confident that your misordered animations are not the problem, then OK. But what I meant was that normally animations are listed with the ones that occupy lower frames first. Like first there would be one with 100-400, and then one that is 560-920, and so on (rather than 560-920 and then 100-400). In yours, they are not sorted like that.

You might also want to describe what you mean by the animation not working. Is the model not showing up, or is it not animated?

Uh Okay I try again... Yes the model is animated... else their wouldnt be a problem... do read the post... misordering anims has nothing to do with anything, but I could try changing it, but it makes no differntce as it is the name who decides what anim it is. As said only the death anim shows up.

This aint the place to ask for help to texture, as you can make a tread about it if you cant find any tutorials... but I know for sure there is some... try using search button or google (btw also called skinning)

 

[Guessed]

Hm, I think I misunderstood. So it is just the particle part of the animation that is not working? If so, then donut3.5 is correct. If you post your particle emitter we should be able to see what's wrong with it.

 

[RED BARON]

As said only the death anim shows up.

The only anim working is the dead anim, and the particle effects is working, but incorretly as they dont go away, they stay all time, even though they should only appear in specific animations.... So yes donuts visible could correct that problem I think, although I thought i set them right in magos when creating those particle effects...

But still the other anims aint showing up.

 

[Guessed]

I still don't understand what you mean by "the other anims aint showing up." (If anyone else does, feel free to clarify!)

Does that mean the model is invisible while those animations are playing? Does it mean that the animations do not appear to exist at all (as if your model only had a death animation)? Does it mean that the model is unanimated during those animations?

 

[donut3.5]

The model should be visible at all times, when I checked out your model, it has no geoset animations...
You use milkshape right? Did you make sure you used Guesst's Exporter to export properly?
--donut3.5--

 

[RED BARON]

I still don't understand what you mean by "the other anims aint showing up." (If anyone else does, feel free to clarify!)

Does that mean the model is invisible while those animations are playing? Does it mean that the animations do not appear to exist at all (as if your model only had a death animation)? Does it mean that the model is unanimated during those animations?

Okay.. I may have explained stupid.. the anims didnt work except for death anim, found out why.. the one file I fixed was the mdl, then I convertet to mdx added particles, then I convertet back, but to other name... then I placed the right names for anims (but in the wrong mdl file without particle effects) convertet the right file back (it was still in the converter) and then tryid playing = didnt work, so that why it doesnt have any anim donut.. But you was right about the particle effects, I made a bug in the visible (noticed when I finally realised you didnt talk about visible in mdl file, but in magos node manager) I made a wrong visible for last one... so now everything works, also guessed thanks for your reply, as you was actualy right in someway.. as the new I made wasnt in order but the old I fixed (wrongly) after particle add was... doh.

Only problem left is to figure out why it jumps when dying, but sure that because I animated it like that, and now going to redo all that again

Thanks for the help.

btw yes used milk and right exporter, explanation why it didnt work already said