Time to Change Warcraft!

[Taur]

yeah I did, I said more popular not better. A game can be more popular than another, but not be better than it.

 

[Just_Spectating]

the difference between popular and better is just the word. If the game isnt popular then it isnt good, heck if it was good we would see it more often, wouldnt we.

 

[Hoernchen]

-"People dont want a map thats good but one that makes em feel mad and powerful"
-"People like to own noobz"
-"If People win they say wow this is a mad map!"

Here is my idea, works 100% on these points.
1st If a map is fair and balanced it wont fit in here will it?
2nd How does WoW work? Just keep leveling and raid 'noobs'
3rd What can be easier than just the concept of being stronger?

Ok, so here is the recipe:
Make an arena style map with up to 100-200 levels and make it with a load/save code! This way, all the nolifers will have much higherlevel chars, thus owning the 'noobs' and making them feel soooo good about themselves. Furthermore u dont need any brain to play, only thing that matters is the amount of time you play! Perfect for all the no-lifers aka WoW-Players/DotA-Players.
This way the nerds will always win in your map and have their need for owning in 'life' fullfiled and are happy. the noobz get pissed, and anyone who is a noob at that map isnt nerdish enuf to play it, or if nerdish enuf, theyll play even more to beat those that beat them.
Easy enuf

 

[AmadiTheGreat]

You didn't get the point there kult. You need to make the nerds believe that they killed them because they were better players than them. Therefore the playfield must be heavily equal, based on knowledge/skill/reflexes. It must also support many strategies. You have a nice concept _BUT_ you're missing a lot. Safe/Load doesn't work, high level people wouldn't have enough other high level people to play with, to feel challenged, and they would stop playing it. Lowbie people would stop playing because high level people would own them too much. In end, no one would be playing.

 

[Jacek]

I reported this thread for extreme flames.

I play dota, but that doesn't make me "nerd" or "nolifer"...

 

[Herman]

There is no flaming here

We haven't flamed anybody in specific, yet

Although I'm tempted to call you a pussy for reporting this

But I won't cuz then this whole thread will be shot and Just_Spectacting won't ever get a crew for his map

Whoever posts right after this about dota, your a moron

Stop posting about DotA now, this thread isn't supposed to be about that

 

[Eleandor]

Not only that, but some elitist form of Risk that never ends.

I'm sorry, but I thought it was more than obvious that I was being ironic. Risk isn't going to take this map anywhere.

 

[Herman]

Didn't see that

Uhhh,

No that wasn't anybodies revolutionary idea

And when I said it never ends, I meant literally, the game takes like 4 hours for somebody to win

Was tryin to show you a map that is basicly solely chaos

Believe it or not people actually played it!!! And long enough to win it xD

I was replying to this

so if you make some heroes godlike and other heroes noobs... there is no warcraft, it is a piece of trash... the only thing you can make, is make it full of chaos... a mean, war everywhere...

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Anyways, lets get back on subject here???

 

[Catslacks]

I'm sorry, but I thought it was more than obvious that I was being ironic. Risk isn't going to take this map anywhere.

I was expanding upon what you were saying... not challenging it.

 

[Herman]

Ugh

*Stupid people piss me off*
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@Just_Spectating: If I were you, I'd make a new thread, just don't include any hot topics (DotA, porn, anything people will jump on)

This ones going nowhere, too many people thinking about themselves and their own opinions/reputations

I'd name it something along the lines of "Recruitment for Map"

Then you'd get people who are here to ACTUALLY HELP YOU

 

[Just_Spectating]

hmm.. really people will still lead to dota..

 

[JRPereira]

I'd name it something along the lines of "Recruitment for Map"

The best thing actually, since this is already in the project recruitment forum, would be to mention the type of map that he's intending to create as part of the title for his thread, as well as, space permitting, the type of people he needs.

 

[Hoernchen]

I reported this thread for extreme flames.

I play dota, but that doesn't make me "nerd" or "nolifer"...

I play DotA too, but in healthy dosis. Once a day at absolute max. I am talking about those kind of people who are playing DotA only and no other maps and who think you are a noob if you don't play it or if you suck at it, and who won't play anything else even if it beats DotA by lenghts.
Not everyone who plays it is low, its just low to be a stereo-typical dota player that plays nothing else and is flaming 'noobz' cause he owns em.

 

[Textor]

A good idea for a map is Castle Siege.
2 TEAMS and 2 CASTLES
Who kills first the king is the winner

 

[salamander]

DotA keeps the morons out of my games. 'Nuff said.

 

[Shadow_Fox]

DotA keeps the morons out of my games. 'Nuff said.

They wouldn't be so retarded if it wasn't an ego-inflating fail machine.

 

[Herman]

@Just_Spectating

Hmmm, dang

That sux

Yeah, this thread should really be closed though, too many people can argue about it, and completely not care about the thread purpose

Wow, I have seen DotA on forums, and all kinds of arguments about it on WC, for about 3 years now

I doubt it's gonna be resolved (the fighting) but the map isn't some kind of extra-terrestrial being, sooner or later a better map will come out and people will play that

Whatever, stop posting about DotA

 

[Textor]

Hmmm, dang

That sux

Yeah, this thread should really be closed though, too many people can argue about it, and completely not care about the thread purpose

Wow, I have seen DotA on forums, and all kinds of arguments about it on WC, for about 3 years now

I doubt it's gonna be resolved (the fighting) but the map isn't some kind of extra-terrestrial being, sooner or later a better map will come out and people will play that

Whatever, stop posting about DotA

Yes so is it.
But i want ask. What was playing before DOTA ?

 

[Jacek]

beating dota by lengths is very subjective topic. I think all other AoSes are inferior to dota, especially in gameplay. I guess you'd say otherwise.

 

[Herman]

Before DotA

WC was a holy shrine of greatness (much like the Ganges without the pollution)

 

[Japut3h]

The name AoS originated from a map named Aeon of Strife.Its been around since the Reign of Chaos came out.Creators of DoTA simply noticed the maps unused potencial,added a ton of make-up,you know the rest...

Dota has no originality at all.A lot of hard work was put in it,but the main idea was just ripped off.Actually the easiest way to overcome it is to make an identical map,but with 200 heroes,300 items(recipes and all),maybe just a small dose of originality,and 2 roshans.The only 2 maps that are being played(as far as i could see) are DoTA(98%) and Pudge Wars(2%).The only reason why people played Pudge Wars at all is probably cause they recognized something from the very map that they play all the time.So it wouldnt be a bad idea to make something completely identical so that the DoTA kids would familiarize with(we all know they are just too ignorant to try other map types),but add twice more make-up(hard).

Its like this:youre a Coca-Cola addict.But a drink thats almost completely identical,only in a nicer bottle and with a bit better taste comes out.The price is the same.Wouldnt you buy it?

 

[Mor)L(unE]

DotA keeps the morons out of my games. 'Nuff said.

Actually dota causes morons to ruin our beloved battle.net they play dota. then are bored at a while, ruin some non dota game and play dota again, because every moron plays dota. Exept divineboss and me, but were other kind of morons.

 

[Elenai]

Yes...what if we are trading one evil master...for another, when we create a new DOTA rival?

 

[Herman]

Oh

That's somethin I never thought of

Dammit

I think I should see a neurologist, I'm starting to think like a normal person, same patterns and such

Fuck

O well, yeah that's actually a really good point elenai, although I hate the type of people who play DotA maliciously, too much to care what the next big thing is

 

[Japut3h]

Well making a new DoTA wont change the players...the community would probably be the same,only youd earn a load of money off of it...

 

[Herman]

That wouldn't be bad

Heh, loads of cash wouldn't be all too bad

 

[Just_Spectating]

why does everyone talk about dota in this terms of a new game...

 

[Mor)L(unE]

because it needs to rival dota

 

[Jacek]

because dota is best map

 

[Hi.Hi]

I haven't read all the posts but in general I haven't seen a post asking what genre of a game it will be, dota s popular cause it is generally balanced and many factors affect the game like skill of the players how many what mode etc. and every game is different that why it's fun and popular. (I'm a noob at dota though). So a maze wont be very popular, maybe a TD will be popular, this is a quick post, so i'm thinking a AOS will be one of the most popular i am guessing.

 

[Hi.Hi]

I've read all the now and I don't know all the genres, but I will just say find the genre with the most variables/factors, then you maybe want to add another genre to is just to add more complex junk and factors and manipulate the factors to make the game balanced, but challenging and a little complex and junk I could keep typing but you probably get the idea. (example-Like adding a builder game with loap and make a city shops civilians taxes rule... ok thats complex, but thats off the top of my head). (mind the punctuation). Is this post Dead?