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[Campaign] Tides of War

What do you think for my project?

  • Change the grammars.

    Votes: 74 42.5%
  • Improve more terrains.

    Votes: 53 30.5%
  • Change some parts of the history.

    Votes: 28 16.1%
  • New custom spell.

    Votes: 62 35.6%
  • Nothing

    Votes: 21 12.1%

  • Total voters
    174
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Hehe thanks :)

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Well, after this feedback of tomoraider, let's say it gave me a certain inspiration that made ​​me start the whole campaign, changing the dialogues and improved gameplay ! Level one is already completed, so a screenhot !

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Wait so you're starting over? :vw_wtf: or did I just not read it right?
 
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Yes, but just "changing the dialogues and improved gameplay" Let's say improve a lot of things :)


so just like a revamp? sort of? Will it affect how long it takes for your map to be done because I played the beta and its super fun. Also in "Tides of War" Did they call Thrall Go'el because I know that is his real name but if your just calling him that for fun stick with Thrall please xD I like it better, Thrall is my favorite character in the Warcraft universe/lore.
 
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so just like a revamp? sort of? Will it affect how long it takes for your map to be done because I played the beta and its super fun. Also in "Tides of War" Did they call Thrall Go'el because I know that is his real name but if your just calling him that for fun stick with Thrall please xD I like it better, Thrall is my favorite character in the Warcraft universe/lore.

Thanks i glad that u liked, yeah, a kind of revamp :)
About Thrall/Go'el, hmm, I will stay with the name Go'el, for be more lorewise.
 
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Ok, if you ever do more Thrall stuff where Lore wise it works please call him Thrall xD :) Thanks! Also is there anyway you can update your beta link I think it might be outdated to what you have completed.
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Oops sorry bud didn't know I double Posted. I'll delete it.
 
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I have tested something chapter 1 to me is fine ;D
Chapter 2 was too hard i can't pass this chapter xd
Chapter 3 the archers can't be saved like tomoraider said
Chapter four i don't tested it xd
And chapter 5 i can't see much in the game xd

Sugestions:Like tomoraider said make dialogues to be more comprensive , also i never knew about tides of war so im learning of this campaign u dont know much about what happened ._.
And dollunar model?is the same as Garm of Wanderers of Sorceria dont you?i like the model
 
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Okay, playing right now and so far played Chapter 1 and 2... I will cut off here and my report:

Overall Problems:
There are many grammar mistakes. The way the story and the dialogues are being told could be better if the grammar could be better. Also, there are some parts you have a good grammar but some parts quite bad... weird.

Chapter 1:
Nice job with the terrain, it looks great if you will ask me. I also like the enterable Necropolis and also its terrain is well-done. Though, you could rename the Guardians when clicked, being its name still Blue Dragonspawn looks awkward. You could also make a cinematic scene when you are about to fight the Lich inside the Necropolis because it would best fit to make at that situation.

Transition from Chapter 1 to 2:
I don't know but it happens too fast. At Chapter 1, it says that you are about to go Theramore Isle to meet the greatest Archmage, Jaina Proudmoore but when we go to the Chapter 2, we are already at Jaina and quite fast but we are in a war so soon. What I mean is that, you could have made maybe a Chapter before this like you are about to go to Theramore Isle instead of without a clue, you are already at Theramore Isle and about to defend it. It really happens too fast to be honest.

Chapter 2:
The terrain is good though you could make some tile variations at the Barren part of the terrain instead of using just one, which is the brown grass-like tile but overall, it looks good.

And I will say it but I cheated iseeyourdeadpeople here in this Chapter and I saw that there is a Kalecgos at the South-West part of the map standing on an island. Maybe it is mean for a test so you should remove that.

Overall, campaign is looking good though your main problem here is the grammar. If you could fix most of the errors, this would be a great campaign!
 
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Transition from Chapter 1 to 2:
I don't know but it happens too fast. At Chapter 1, it says that you are about to go Theramore Isle to meet the greatest Archmage, Jaina Proudmoore but when we go to the Chapter 2, we are already at Jaina and quite fast but we are in a war so soon. What I mean is that, you could have made maybe a Chapter before this like you are about to go to Theramore Isle instead of without a clue, you are already at Theramore Isle and about to defend it. It really happens too fast to be honest.

yeahm i sence this too, i will focus more in the story, so i will make a interlude of chapter 1 to chapter 2, talk about the arriving o kalec, the tauren messsage, and the call of help to the kirin tor :)

Thanks for the feedback :)

I have tested something chapter 1 to me is fine ;D
Chapter 2 was too hard i can't pass this chapter xd
Chapter 3 the archers can't be saved like tomoraider said
Chapter four i don't tested it xd
And chapter 5 i can't see much in the game xd

Sugestions:Like tomoraider said make dialogues to be more comprensive , also i never knew about tides of war so im learning of this campaign u dont know much about what happened ._.
And dollunar model?is the same as Garm of Wanderers of Sorceria dont you?i like the model

Thanks, i will fix this, and about the model, idk, i never play this campaign.
 
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Thanks, i will fix this, and about the model, idk, i never play this campaign.[/QUOTE]

Oh sorry for judging i played that campaign and the first time i saw that model was in that :)
 
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Also, guys. I do think it is better if you change the model of the Apothecary unit at Chapter 2 which has a hero glow. Either find something that does not have or remove its hero glow.

Yeah, I think it is better to use a model that doesn't have hero glow. There are a couple of models that don't exactly look like apothecaries, but look similar enough.
 
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Thanks :)

Chapter two are almost done, just make a new ending cinemact, i have add AI if heros for the Kirin Tor, Sentinels and Theramore Guard, and as promise, i add Pained and Tervosh, just not add Kinndy cause i don't found a model for her.


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Wow!you are now working better than before , you have completed two chapters i'm happy ;D
 
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I'm glad to hear that!

Wow!you are now working better than before , you have completed two chapters i'm happy ;D

Thanks, and yes, i'm working better then before xD
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I could not resist, one more photo, credits to Tomoraider for make this explosion for "Fall of Theramore"
Thanks Tomoraider, for help me, for the feedback, that gave me more inspiration to do Tides of War :D

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Thanks, and yes, i'm working better then before xD
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I could not resist, one more photo, credits to Tomoraider for make this explosion for "Fall of Theramore"
Thanks Tomoraider, for help me, for the feedback, that gave me more inspiration to do Tides of War :D

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What impresive!why don't both of you work together for make other campaigns in the future?
 
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Map Reviewer: Warchief-Thrall
Map Name: Tides of War (Beta)
Map Author: Forsaken
Gameplay
The gameplay is not very good (I know it's a beta, and I believe you will change some things), and Chapter 3 (I believe it is chapter 3) the Sunreavers control ALL Dalaran, and Chapter 5, I do not seen any Phoenix. But I liked some things, as in Chapter 1, when we entered the Necropolis to destroy the generator.
3/5

Story
-I do not get much in the transfer of chapter 1 to chapter 2. first, Kalecgos was going to Theramore to find Jaina, under the advice of Rhonin, and then Kalecgos and Rhonin are already in the middle of a war between the Horde and Theramore. One tip, put a little cinematic between these chapters to help us understand.
-In chapter 3, Jaina wants to return to Alliance and eliminates the Blood Elves of Dalaran. But... why?
In WOW, Jaina eliminates Sunreavers because she wants revenge for them stealing the Divine Bell of Darnassus. Then Jaina sees that she can not trust the Horde, then back to the Alliance. But in your campaign, does not explain why. The story despite being a good map, miss.
+Chapter 4 and 5 are GREAT and I will not ask about the trolls because I never went to Pandaria and never read this book. So there is nothing to talk about it.
And in Chapter 5, you could change the map so that players can build bases, because the map is a bit tricky.
3.5/5

terrain
The terrain is rather simple as in most campaign maps. It doesnt look bad at all but it still got the wc3ish look.
As I am not a terrainer, I can not give many hints about it, but I think you could improve the terrain of Chapter 2.
4/5

Visuals
+I love the skins/models/icons in your maps.
+The Trolls and the Pandarens are quite different.
+Dollunar was a great idea. because there is no Blood Elves's Demon Hunter in any other campaign.
5/5

Bugs Found
-In chapter 2, the Darnassus portal opens normally, but any reinforcements arrive.
-in Chapter 5, there is no phoenix, and when we approached their 'nests' in the center of the map (where we found Dollunar the first time), a small dialog appears and then appears 'mission failed'. (not sure if this is a bug, but I put anyway ...)
4/5

Things I want improved/changed
-You could make more kinds of pandaren, it has just the Warrior.
-In Chapter 2, you could do some bases for the Horde, a base for the Sentinels, one for the Kirin Tor (although there is already a base for the Kirin Tor ..) and the player control the Theramore's defences.
-You could change the model of the Lord Frandis Farley (The Forsaken General in Chapter 2). And do all or any enemy hero attack, because only Baine, Lord Frandis and Kelantir attack the island.

Rating
3 + 3.5 + 4 + 5 + 4 / 5 = 4/5

(3.9/5)



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Warchief-Thrall said:
You could change the model of the Lord Frandis Farley (The Forsaken General in Chapter 2). And do all or any enemy hero attack, because only Baine, Lord Frandis and Kelantir attack the island.

Well, i think that u don't see, but Garrosh, Baine and the Goblin attack Theramore too

Warchief-Thrall said:
-in Chapter 5, there is no phoenix, and when we approached their 'nests' in the center of the map (where we found Dollunar the first time), a small dialog appears and then appears 'mission failed'. (not sure if this is a bug, but I put anyway ...)

Yea, the phoeix has bugged, and the mission will be failed, yes, cause u don't have ally with them.

Thanks for the Feedback xD
 
For the first one it should be:
"Aethas Sunreaver! What are you doing here? I sent a message for you and your Blood Elves to leave the city, immediately!"

and for the second:
"Jaina! The Sunreavers are attacking us and I don't know why. They have captured some of our troops and imprisoned them!"

Just remove the quotation marks.
 
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Nice screenies, Forsaken. While the terrain looks good and well, maybe I can share you some tips on the things you are wrong at the grammars in the Dialogues. First, it is not that dsiturbing but you could just directly put a quotation mark after a word without doing a spacing before it, no need for unecessary spacing like what you are doing for example this word or phrase: "Die !" it would be pretty much fine when it is "Die!".

Some of the words in your dialogues are in the wrong tense or form such as this statement (not exactly on your campaign but just an example) "They have get our troops!" it should just be "They got out troops!" or better yet what Footman said awhile ago by just using the word "captured" for it sounds more fitting on the situation.
 
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I was really impressed by the Garrosh and Water elemental models in mission 3. Since I cant find them on this site, any chance for a link to where they might be downloaded?
 
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Oh thanks :)
Garrosh,and the water elemental are here: xgm.ru, i don't know what page is. but i know that is there xD

Thx for trying to help! The Garrosh model you linked isnt the one in mission though, the in game (cool) skin has Gorehowl and those Mannoroth Shoulderpads.

Any chance I can get a link to that model because its awesome?
 
Your progress is good!

Yes, i have finish to test the map completly, all are working now, and the gameplay are really nice, more them before! The sunreaver attack every minute, and now they have 3 bases (with AI that attack the player) + the sunreaver sanctuary's forces.
Nice job Forsaken. It's good that Modera became a Hero:)
 
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Yeah, I played both the Sylvanas and the Blood Elf campaign. The Sylvanas mission to defend Orgrimmar war probably the best non blzzard map I have ever played.

I hate to be bothering you about Garrosh but that model you linked isnt the one you use in your campaign and I cant find it anywhere. If its a secret I understand that but I would really, really love to haave that model for a map. Can you please dig abit and see where Garrosh came from?
 
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I hate to be bothering you about Garrosh but that model you linked isnt the one you use in your campaign and I cant find it anywhere. If its a secret I understand that but I would really, really love to haave that model for a map. Can you please dig abit and see where Garrosh came from?

oh sorry for send it the wrong, cause now i'm using that Garrosh, and about this model, i don't know if i have the permission for send it, so ask for Hardtime

Yeah, I played both the Sylvanas and the Blood Elf campaign. The Sylvanas mission to defend Orgrimmar war probably the best non blzzard map I have ever played.

hmm, this isn't my campaign, i don't understand what u want talk.
 
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