[Campaign] Tides of War

[Forsaken]

I sorry I can't test the campaign now.Because I am now working with my map & I have lots of homework to do.But when I have time I will test it.i also wanted to asked u will the Horde be driven back to Dreanor & will the Sindorei/Blood Elves rejoin the Alliance.

Well, ok
hmm, Razosh already ask your question

I think I can answer that question with no and no since it's known that Varian will let the orcs remain on Azeroth and lets them do with Orgrimmar as they likes and the blood elves have put their trust in the the humans twice now and twice have they been rewarded with betrayal and attempt of genocide first by Garithos and now by Jaina Proudmore, let me just promise you this as long as Jaina lives the blood elves will probably never accept peace.

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Anything bad that has happened to the Elves they've done to themselves.

what do you want mean ? what happen in Dalaran ?

 

[Razosh]

Anything bad that has happened to the Elves they've done to themselves.

I am going to quote Valeera Sanguinar here, My whole race was nearly exterminated by the Scourge. Those who survived and fought in partnership with the Alliance were betrayed. Was it so wrong, then, to ally with Illidan and the naga... to save the few who remained?

And do you imply that the fact that ten blood elves or so that were in the Kirin Tor and aided the Horde behind Jaina's back justifies for the slaughter and imprisoning of all the other thousands that lived peacefully in the city, I don't think so.

 

[Footman16]

Kael'thas didn't have to fight with garithos the people of hillsbrad, southshore, stromgarde and stormwind could've used his help. If he had simply fled south he wouldn't of had to have put up with the guy.

How would you feel if your ally betrayed you for a couple of snakes. It does seem convenient however the naga having those boats when they don't need them. Dalaran was an alliance city the blood elves were art of the horde they shouldn't have been there anyway it was bound to happen. If I'm honest Jaina could've flung them out ages ago. The blood elves are holding every insult like a Frey.

 

[Razosh]

Kael'thas didn't have to fight with garithos the people of hillsbrad, southshore, stromgarde and stormwind could've used his help. If he had simply fled south he wouldn't of had to have put up with the guy.

So how exactly did the sin'dorei do that to themselves? Did they do it to themselves because they can't see into the future. If you argue like that it's also the fault of the humans that Deathwing destroyed their city since they do not live under water.

How would you feel if your ally betrayed you for a couple of snakes. It does seem convenient however the naga having those boats when they don't need them. Dalaran was an alliance city the blood elves were art of the horde they shouldn't have been there anyway it was bound to happen. If I'm honest Jaina could've flung them out ages ago. The blood elves are holding every insult like a Frey.

Dalaran was declared a neutral city by Rhonin during the WotLK expansion if you do not recall, that was later changed by Jaina while the sin'dorei was attempting to join the Alliance. And once again you claim that this is the sin'doreis fault because they can not see into the future.

 

[Footman16]

It's not about seeing into the future. Garithos was pretty racist even before the whole naga incident it doesn't take a traitor to fight for someone better within your own faction.

When were the sin'dorei trying to rejoin the alliance? I know there were those who wanted it but lor'themar was never going to rejoin the alliance since he joined the horde. Lor'themar shouldn't have joined the horde anyway, it was garithos who has committed the atrocities not stormwind; yet they still thought they were close to the forsaken who are dead, primarily human and off shoots of those who committed genocide against their race. Sylvanas is also a High elf undead not even a blood elf. It makes no sense whatsoever for the Blood elves to be so... Illogical or imbecilic.

You've still to explain the naga boats .

 

[Theoden of KoMe]

Theoden[KoMe]'s Review

Well here is the review I promised.I'm sorry but I was disappointed.I expected more from such a promising project.But I forgive you cause it is still under development

Here we go:

Prelude:
Nice going cinematic.Problems:the dialogs have to be a bit slower cause I couldn't read nothing...Also fix Thrall's(birth name Go'el) potrail cause I can only see his hood...

Chapter 1:
Nothing to worry about.Nice map nothing of problem.Grammar errors are a bit low in sight.Your staff can fix it or if you like it I can pass a grammar check.

Chapter 2:
Well here are my objections:
There is no game cache for the heroes so far thus I didn't had my spells chosen from chapter one for kalegos.The defenders of Theramor are 3 to 1 weeker than the orcs.Rhonin suisided....I don't know why He just run into the mass blood elfs and undead and died
I cant pick the item called Elune's Bow
Jaina has already picked water element something I don't what to use...
Same goes with vareesa's 1st ability which I don't remember now...
Shops are until blue castle dies.After that I cant buy neither towers neither potions just some shity scrolls.
I had to play this 3 times cause I died the 2 previews Kalegos got microed 2 times by 3 taurens who massed pulzervise...

I'm to go somewhere I will finish my review later Get your staff working cause this has to be perfect.

Your Friend
---Théoden[Kome]---

 

[Razosh]

When were the sin'dorei trying to rejoin the alliance? I know there were those who wanted it but lor'themar was never going to rejoin the alliance since he joined the horde.

Lor'Themar Theron: Know this, I wount stand idle if the Horde interests conflict with that of my people.

And here we have a debate between Varian and Jaina and Varian says that he had opened negotiations to bring the sin'dorei back into the alliance and we both know who is the one that will decide the alliegence of the sin'dorei.

It's not about seeing into the future. Garithos was pretty racist even before the whole naga incident it doesn't take a traitor to fight for someone better within your own faction.

Racism and genocide are very far apart.

Lor'themar shouldn't have joined the horde anyway, it was garithos who has committed the atrocities not stormwind; yet they still thought they were close to the forsaken who are dead, primarily human and off shoots of those who committed genocide against their race. Sylvanas is also a High elf undead not even a blood elf. It makes no sense whatsoever for the Blood elves to be so... Illogical or imbecilic.

They are not being illogical they could either join the Horde whom welcommed them with open arms thanks to Sylvanas who helped them reclaim Quel'Thalas from the scourge and was also the one who had saved them in the second war against Orgrim Doomhammer and his forces, she had more reason than most to hate the orcs for slaughtering her entire family except for her two sisters and her cousin, yet she had forgiven them so most sin'dorei did the same and since she seemed the most trustworthy person at the time I can understand why they would side with her. And if you say that the quel'dorei aren't the same specie as the sin'dorei why would they join the Alliance since they had no member of their race who served either faction. Also you need to realize that this was not a matter that was settled over night, this was a widely thought through alliance.

You've still to explain the naga boats .

I don't know maybe because it was better than leaving the humans to die and if they got a boat would it really matter if it was built by Nagas or merchants.

 

[Theoden of KoMe]

Review part 2

Part 2 Lets go

Interlude :
Again a nice cinematic.Some grammar errors which I cant recall atm.And a big delay at the end of it to start the next chapter

Chapter 3:
I have already told you about the "esc" bug.
I cant find the Archers in the "rescue the archers" mission thus I cant finish the map...
A bit imbalanced cause you have nothing at start.
Heroes have no cache again and this time they don't even lvl up....

Chapter 4:
I haven't red the book thus I cant tell you about the lore.Believe it or not it is the only wrc book I haven't red yet... My last was the Shattering and I really cryied out when cairne died Anyways.
Ai are week and really don't work well.Trolls are week as units too.
Pandaren warriors have750 hp and hero armor !!!!! ????

Chapter 5:
I was already too disappointed that I dint finished the map.
The obelisks are light defended and no one attacks while Jaina turns them off.Again panda warriors are overpowered.

That's all.I hope you and your team will fix them.You have to cause its pity for a 8 months project to have a rejection when its done.Keep working mate focuse more in gameplay cause it really needs too much work.

Your Friend
---Théoden[KoMe]---

 

[Footman16]

Lor'Themar Theron: Know this, I wount stand idle if the Horde interests conflict with that of my people.

And here we have a debate between Varian and Jaina and Varian says that he had opened negotiations to bring the sin'dorei back into the alliance and we both know who is the one that will decide the alliegence of the sin'dorei.

Racism and genocide are very far apart.



They are not being illogical they could either join the Horde whom welcommed them with open arms thanks to Sylvanas who helped them reclaim Quel'Thalas from the scourge and was also the one who had saved them in the second war against Orgrim Doomhammer and his forces, she had more reason than most to hate the orcs for slaughtering her entire family except for her two sisters and her cousin, yet she had forgiven them so most sin'dorei did the same and since she seemed the most trustworthy person at the time I can understand why they would side with her. And if you say that the quel'dorei aren't the same specie as the sin'dorei why would they join the Alliance since they had no member of their race who served either faction. Also you need to realize that this was not a matter that was settled over night, this was a widely thought through alliance.



I don't know maybe because it was better than leaving the humans to die and if they got a boat would it really matter if it was built by Nagas or merchants.

If kael'thas' blood elves had joined the alliance it would be highly improbable for all of them to be fighting with Garithos, what about the surviving civilians they would've probably been sent south for protection but blizzard being blizzard over looked the fact.

Your video proves that varian was wanting them back in not the other way around. We both know that the forsaken in WoW is a load of rubbish which blizzard only came up with to allow people to play undead it is poorly written and explained, the horde didn't want the blood elves Sylvie did and begged on her knees to thrall who didn't want such tainted and fel oriented people on his side but finally relented after blizzard had to make it work.

Yes, racism and genocide are far apart, genocide is worse.

The horde are always conflicting with the interests of lor'themars' people yet he hasn't done anything.

 

[Razosh]

If kael'thas' blood elves had joined the alliance it would be highly improbable for all of them to be fighting with Garithos, what about the surviving civilians they would've probably been sent south for protection but blizzard being blizzard over looked the fact.

You are aware of the fact that they were with Garithos in an attempt to reclaim Lordearon and save the civillians there, right?

Your video proves that varian was wanting them back in not the other way around.

So you are suggesting that either someone else than Lor'Themar Theron speeks for the sin'dorei, now who would that be?

We both know that the forsaken in WoW is a load of rubbish which blizzard only came up with to allow people to play undead it is poorly written and explained, the horde didn't want the blood elves Sylvie did and begged on her knees to thrall who didn't want such tainted and fel oriented people on his side but finally relented after blizzard had to make it work.

Lies after lies after lies.

The horde are always conflicting with the interests of lor'themars' people yet he hasn't done anything.

Alright name one thing that Thrall did that conflicted with the best of the sin'dorei.

 

[Footman16]

No, they were attempting to reclaim lordaeron only even then the elves held no loyalty to lordaeron but to the alliance which they had actually left by the third war; not save the civilians who were already dead. Bare in mind there is almost no way that lor'themar theron could've learned of the Garithos and kael situation.

I was referring to the second video when I mentioned varian. Lor'themar is being contradictory to himself in the first he says he's being pushed further into the horde by the alliance but then says the horde are pushing him into the alliance. It can't be both.

Lies? Where? You can't prove those are lies when the evidence is in any article about sylvanas or the blood elves on wowpedia or WoWWiki.

It's not about thrall it's about the entire horde. Velen, the Draenei leader, purified the sun well and then you can go kill him. Garrosh forced the blood elves into making the mana bomb which destroyed an entire city. Sylvanas is using chemical weapons and making loads of war crimes, yet she was the one who wanted the blood elves into the horde, doesn't look good on their résumé.

The alliance are doing more for the blood elves even before they were part of the horde.

 

[Razosh]

No, they were attempting to reclaim lordaeron only even then the elves held no loyalty to lordaeron but to the alliance which they had actually left by the third war; not save the civilians who were already dead. Bare in mind there is almost no way that lor'themar theron could've learned of the Garithos and kael situation.

It's impossible now is it, how exactly is it impossible when Valeera Sanguinar knows of it? My whole race was nearly exterminated by the Scourge. Those who survived and fought in partnership with the Alliance were betrayed. Was it so wrong, then, to ally with Illidan and the naga... to save the few who remained?

I was referring to the second video when I mentioned varian. Lor'themar is being contradictory to himself in the first he says he's being pushed further into the horde by the alliance but then says the horde are pushing him into the alliance. It can't be both.

He says he's being pushed further in by the Horde by the Alliance, more specificlly Jaina which made him second guess this new alliance. And if Lor'Themar did not attend Varians gathering than there would not have been a gathering since no one else commands the sin'dorei and Varian would not waste his time and Lor'Themar would not risk loosing his position in the Horde unless he actually wanted to join the Alliance.

Lies? Where? You can't prove those are lies when the evidence is in any article about sylvanas or the blood elves on wowpedia or WoWWiki.

Alright show me exactly where it says that Sylvanas "begged on her knees".

It's not about thrall it's about the entire horde. Velen, the Draenei leader, purified the sun well and then you can go kill him. Garrosh forced the blood elves into making the mana bomb which destroyed an entire city. Sylvanas is using chemical weapons and making loads of war crimes, yet she was the one who wanted the blood elves into the horde, doesn't look good on their résumé.

Exactly, Garrosh is the problem he forced them to make the mana bomb and sacrificed their lives since he deemed orc lives to valuable and one patch later the blood elves left Garrosh's Horde and joined Vol'Jin's rebellion shortly after.

The alliance are doing more for the blood elves even before they were part of the horde.

Yes and the blood elves helped the humans that's why they were allied before the blood elves joined the horde, that's how alliances work. Unless you've forgotten it's thanks to them that mages like Jaina, Antonidas, Medivh and Aegwynn even became mages.

 

[Footman16]

Correction at the last point, high elves. There not traitors because they have actually stuck with the alliance.

I didn't say it was impossible but highly unlikely. How Valeera learned of it I don't know considering she was never even close to kael'thas so it is must likely a mistake. If you care to observe Valeera is neutral and wants the horde and alliance to work together.
Her quote is misleading as the majority of surviving blood elves were still in quel'thalas who didn't follow Illidari or his naga.

Lor'themar had no real position in the horde tell me one occasion where the horde actually valued the use of the blood elves other than to do their dirty work when it came to the mana bomb and abuse their friendship with the alliance. The sunreaver offensive on pandaria was organised by lor'themar himself.

I was using hyperbole but the point still stands that thrall didn't want the blood elves until he was gruellingly convinced of their worth.

About the last point again what I meant was that even after the blood elves joined the horde the alliance still aided them and helped them.

The boats are important because the shipyard was destroyed yet vasj comes along with human boats that they did not need. Why would the naga keep ships? Seems to me that vasj saw an opportunity to to enlist some cheap allies into Illidan's cause. She destroys the shipyard but keeps the boats and then helps the blood elves in their time of need. Afterwards after getting the blood elves into their cause Illidan can use them as the backbone his army needed. When did Illidan ever truly help the blood elves cause? He might have saved their lives but only after endangering them himself. When does he sate their magic addiction? Certainly not when Velen purifies the sun well for the blood elves to use. See my point?

 

[Razosh]

This is not really relevant to the topic anymore so if you want to continue this discussion make another thread and I'll be glad to tell you why blood elves are not pure evil but not here.

 

[Footman16]

It's not about them being pure evil but about them betraying the alliance and making problems for themselves. You're right though this is off-topic and I've taken your points on board so I guess we're both right but it depends upon how you look at it both arguments are valid.

On-topic: will this be an alliance campaign with horde bits thrown in or an equal split? If so will we be seeing a new alliance tech-tree?

 

[Atshiel]

Wow guys you know a lot of the wowlore and the game and the storyline but i cant say anithing because i only know certain things of warcraft and their races i only know in Pandaria is Garrosh is doing all bad and he must be come to JUSTICE

 

[Sunreaver]

Forsaken in your campaign will Garrosh Hellsream be kill or be imprison for his crimes

 

[Forsaken]

Forsaken in your campaign will Garrosh Hellsream be kill or be imprison for his crimes

i can't talk about, it is a secret :3

 

[Daffa]

Play the Chapter 1 and Prologue :
Bugs :
Grammar Mistakes (Minor)

That's all I can spot, I will continue and see if I found any big bugs on the way.

 

[Razosh]

i can't talk about, it is a secret :3

I do not believe Garrosh will walk out of this alive, lets have a look at the table, The pandaren hate Garrosh as was made sure in the patch 5.4 trailer, the trolls and tauren hate Garrosh for killing Cairne, attacking their lands and holding their people hostage within Orgrimmar. The sin'dorei hate Garrosh for tossing away their peoples lives, Sylvanas hates Garrosh for meddling in her plans, the kal'dorei hates Garrosh for choping down their trees, the other other alliance races hate him for bringing war to their shores and blowing up their cities and finally the goblins who sides with highest bidder and a leader who has all the other races against him is not good buisness. So we can safely say Garrosh has no allies and no one that wants him alive so his chanses to survive are slim.

 

[Sunreaver]

Forsaken in your campaign will Voljin rebel

 

[Forsaken]

Forsaken in your campaign will Voljin rebel

Yes, but i will make something different of wow

 

[Razosh]

Yes, but i will make something different of wow

And that is?

 

[Forsaken]

And that is?

Well, like is all about Jaina, Vol'jin will talk with her and Lor'themar and they will attack the gates of Orgrimmar, and some other side quests like wow

A new Screenhot of "The Thunder King" that is 50% completed now

Screenhots

 

[Razosh]

Wait, when did Sylvanas make an appearence on the Isle of Thunder?

 

[Forsaken]

Wait, when did Sylvanas make an appearence on the Isle of Thunder?

Custom Lore
For make sence for the next lvls and other things

 

[7oda]

Well, like is all about Jaina, Vol'jin will talk with her and Lor'themar and they will attack the gates of Orgrimmar, and some other side quests like wow

A new Screenhot of "The Thunder King" that is 50% completed now

Screenhots

I like wow lore in warcraft 3 this is an awesome campaign and custom lore will be awesome.

 

[BandolXD]

In Chapter 3 I found a bug ._.
The first cinematic starts and I pressed Esc then I was able to play but the first cinematic starts again. I pressed Esc again and the Cinematic restart,then I tried to quit Warcraft III then the Chapter III didn't show up in Campaign Level Section.

 

[Yousef]

i think that i have a good idea.
what do you think about the sha and the shado-pan in the campaign ??

 

[Razosh]

i think that i have a good idea.
what do you think about the sha and the shado-pan in the campaign ??

As I recall it the only time Jaina shows up in Pandaria is on the Isle of Thunder and the only place in the Isle of Thunder where we actually see any sha is during Wrathions quest line so that might be difficult if our dear friend wants to keep to the lore.

 

[I_am_Death]

In Chapter 3 I found a bug ._.
The first cinematic starts and I pressed Esc then I was able to play but the first cinematic starts again. I pressed Esc again and the Cinematic restart,then I tried to quit Warcraft III then the Chapter III didn't show up in Campaign Level Section.

he knew it already

 

[RadiaNSh0t]

I definitely wanna play it... Played WoW and read the books and kinda hope u can find a Silver haired model of Jaina for after the mana-bomb.
Hope you finish it soon, and maybe make a 2P version of it like Thespoon, would be great since the "Adventurer" would be with her... maybe use your character?

Edit:
This is going to be a long one

My view

Generally your campaign needs plenty of work, and lots of work. But I like your terraining skills.

Chapter 1: Fine, but would be nice if u had a few pings to show the fallen trees, and Kalec really seems under-powered even as a former-aspect.
Chapter 2: The level capped for the 3 heroes, and the overly powered spawns of the horde as it progressed... makes it impossible without cheats (You will get snowballed at west when it opens, and north suddenly powers up largely with the arrival of the tauren [Baine FTW] The Siege engines are useless and there is insufficient troops to protect the tower from the north side) Would be nicer if u stuck to the actual plot for the ending... (Btw: Rhonin reincarnation ._.)
Chapter 3: Archers are missing (You said prisoners... but they're nowhere to be found), silver covenant enclave gets messed up too hard before you got any power, and you don't get "DEFEAT". Encourages random war-mage spam as thats your only unit for 60% of the chapter. Cannot progress even with allyourbasearebelongtous
Overall: Feels like the heroes are really under-powered! Make them have higher starting stats and start at level 3, with powerful base-dmg and base-effect spells, and more levels! (Like up to level 8 spells) For main characters they really seem weak. (After all, your story is based around the heroes) Jaina could use something more fitting to the WoW character, with Fire, Ice, Water, Arcane.
-Items and abilities aren't really.. transferred over? Chapter 3 at least let them add their own abilities instead of preset.
-In the book.. Kalec was in dragon form all the way, changing the story = changing things in the game, which makes it harder to balance
-Could use more information narration on whats really happening in the book so those who did not read it will understand.
-You have tons of models / skins! Pretty sweet but it has caused an overly large file to be made.

To You: Did you even play the game properly yourself... feels like you could get alot of information from just trying it once, seeing how different it is from imagination.
Its nice to rush the chapters to keep the hive happy... but please try to keep the quality, or you'll waste time going back to edit.
Can see that you are motivated to work hard on this map... but clearly you got frustrated at several parts and made slip-short work which has caused quite drastic problems... take some time and look.

Theramore's shape and layout... Oh well. For the sake of "Defense" Terrain. Mages to barrier the gates in the actual thing would be better, and the objective might be to "Defend the mages" and the plot twist of the sunweaver traitor, followed by the "Hold the area" till kalecgos seals the gate.

Well i hope you find some way to balance the map, what i've written is solely because i believe the map could be better and more enjoyable.
Thanks for your time to read it... looking forward to a better play when i check again in future.

 

[Razosh]

Since you're introducing Sylvanas on the Isle of Thunder and Vereesa does acompany Jaina to Isle of Thunder will there possibly be a family reunion between the two?

 

[Forsaken]

I definitely wanna play it... Played WoW and read the books and kinda hope u can find a Silver haired model of Jaina for after the mana-bomb.
Hope you finish it soon, and maybe make a 2P version of it like Thespoon, would be great since the "Adventurer" would be with her... maybe use your character?

Edit:
This is going to be a long one

My view

Generally your campaign needs plenty of work, and lots of work. But I like your terraining skills.

Chapter 1: Fine, but would be nice if u had a few pings to show the fallen trees, and Kalec really seems under-powered even as a former-aspect.
Chapter 2: The level capped for the 3 heroes, and the overly powered spawns of the horde as it progressed... makes it impossible without cheats (You will get snowballed at west when it opens, and north suddenly powers up largely with the arrival of the tauren [Baine FTW] The Siege engines are useless and there is insufficient troops to protect the tower from the north side) Would be nicer if u stuck to the actual plot for the ending... (Btw: Rhonin reincarnation ._.)
Chapter 3: Archers are missing (You said prisoners... but they're nowhere to be found), silver covenant enclave gets messed up too hard before you got any power, and you don't get "DEFEAT". Encourages random war-mage spam as thats your only unit for 60% of the chapter. Cannot progress even with allyourbasearebelongtous
Overall: Feels like the heroes are really under-powered! Make them have higher starting stats and start at level 3, with powerful base-dmg and base-effect spells, and more levels! (Like up to level 8 spells) For main characters they really seem weak. (After all, your story is based around the heroes) Jaina could use something more fitting to the WoW character, with Fire, Ice, Water, Arcane.
-Items and abilities aren't really.. transferred over? Chapter 3 at least let them add their own abilities instead of preset.
-In the book.. Kalec was in dragon form all the way, changing the story = changing things in the game, which makes it harder to balance
-Could use more information narration on whats really happening in the book so those who did not read it will understand.
-You have tons of models / skins! Pretty sweet but it has caused an overly large file to be made.

To You: Did you even play the game properly yourself... feels like you could get alot of information from just trying it once, seeing how different it is from imagination.
Its nice to rush the chapters to keep the hive happy... but please try to keep the quality, or you'll waste time going back to edit.
Can see that you are motivated to work hard on this map... but clearly you got frustrated at several parts and made slip-short work which has caused quite drastic problems... take some time and look.

Theramore's shape and layout... Oh well. For the sake of "Defense" Terrain. Mages to barrier the gates in the actual thing would be better, and the objective might be to "Defend the mages" and the plot twist of the sunweaver traitor, followed by the "Hold the area" till kalecgos seals the gate.

Well i hope you find some way to balance the map, what i've written is solely because i believe the map could be better and more enjoyable.
Thanks for your time to read it... looking forward to a better play when i check again in future.

thanks, and i have a new model for jaina with her new hair
i liked your review i will fix every thing, and change the other like you have told it, thanks

Since you're introducing Sylvanas on the Isle of Thunder and Vereesa does acompany Jaina to Isle of Thunder will there possibly be a family reunion between the two?

i don't have thought about it, but it is a good ideia



and thanks for all who have voted in the campaign, i'm already have 5 nominations

 

[Razosh]

Well the alliance would probably want to remove the threat of the forsaken and Sylvanas is always looking for good soldiers and even more importantly good generals and her little sister would fit in on that description perfectly not to mention a fist fight between the two is one of the things I want to see just above a Aegwynn and Azshara duel.

 

[Sunreaver]

Why don't u make The Horde & The Alliance allied to destoy Garrosh & his bastard forces.

 

[Forsaken]

Why don't u make The Horde & The Alliance allied to destoy Garrosh & his bastard forces.

but i will do this, in one map will have the 3 entrences of Orgrimmar the side Jaina and the Kirin Tor will attack, the front gate the Horde and the other gate will be the Alliance

 

[Atshiel]

but i will do this, in one map will have the 3 entrences of Orgrimmar the side Jaina and the Kirin Tor will attack, the front gate the Horde and the other gate will be the Alliance

Horde and Alliance working together?great i like that good ideas and jobs the yours

 

[Daffa]

Forsaken, I would like to apology for my inability to quickly make a full review on the project yet, as my school keeps me occupied (and the final exam is on the way as like a meteor coming). So, if you would mind, discard me from the Bat Tester for now, don't worry about the campaign file, I won't share others work, it's just like stealing to me.

Anyway, I contact Beta Tester Group in case some of them interested in inheriting my job, just be careful on those who you choose

EDIT :

I can still review, but it will be very slow and might take some days between each, you can choose to keep me as Official Beta Tester or Remove Me from the Beta Tester, It's okay with me for whatever you choose, but, if you say yes, I hope you are ready to wait between days for another chapter review.

 

[I_am_Death]

forsaken, i'm very very sorry about late review but i'm busy and on school now ~.~
i will try my best to send you review as fast as possible
sorry

 

[Daffa]

Chapter 2 Review by Daffa the Mage

Tides of War - Chapter Two

GOOD THINGS

• Models Looks Nice
• Heroes can have items
• Good starting troops at withstooding early attacks
• Challenging Attacks

NEGATIVE THINGS

• The Enemy Heroes are OP as hell, rebalance maybe?
• Heroes can easily get killed
• Jaina Level Max is Lower than everyone else, being level 2
• Highest Hero Level you can get is Kalegcus being Level 5

BUGS

• Vol'jin Stops on the North Path, right before Arcane Vault zone
• Apothecary Model doesn't have Bone [Not Important]

COMMENTS
So, Here's My personal comment. First, this Chapter, I found it quite interesting, however, Heroes can easily die even with maximum micro, as they are fragile [Jaina is the most] to damage, I myself manage to stand without cheats for 15 Minutes, on 15:12, Jaina is close to dead, so I enter "Reaper Mode" to kill the enemies till the last minute >.>
It was really a hard battle, I recommend give a slight Hero Cap Increase so Heroes can get better abilities. (especially Jaina)

 

[Forsaken]

Daffa the Mage
I really lke your review, help me a lot, that someones don't have tell me, like the bug with Vol'jin, i will "remake" this made, change all the terrain, making something for defense, for a better gameplay and more strategic terrain for the player lead the hero to the defense, the heros lvl in be less, just garrosh will have level 10 for be the "wave boss" so he can be more powerful, for broken all the defence with the player don't make the correct strategic

the level and the itens i have forget to fix and put, and in the next version i will add custom new itens, and cool one, all with some story

Good Luck with your exams, and thanks for the feedback

 

[Daffa]

Your Welcome, I will do the third chapter soon.

 

[Forsaken]

Your Welcome, I will do the third chapter soon.

can wait to see

Project Recruitment: Tides of War, if someone are interisting

 

[Turnro]

Good to see Tides of War well on its way to being developed I'm sure a lot of people will be waiting on this one.

I remember when you reviewed Jeopardy for the Horde for me, and so I fell obliged to return the favor. If you ever someone to test your maps, just let me know

 

[Atshiel]

wait did you mean that forsaken created the campaign jeopardy of the horde?

 

[Forsaken]

Good to see Tides of War well on its way to being developed I'm sure a lot of people will be waiting on this one.

I remember when you reviewed Jeopardy for the Horde for me, and so I fell obliged to return the favor. If you ever someone to test your maps, just let me know

Thanks, you feedback will be really cool and useful for find bugs

wait did you mean that forsaken created the campaign jeopardy of the horde?

No... i just help him with test of the campaign, reporting the bugs/lags etc, and he want "give this favor back".

 

[Sunreaver]

How is the campaign going my friend.

 

[Forsaken]

How is the campaign going my friend.

Well, for now Laercio are fix the bugs, and making some triggers in chapter 6 and Theoden of KoMe are making one terrain for the map "Chapter 8 - Hand of Justice"

 

[Sunreaver]

Is it a map about the Forsaken Forces ?