Through Snow and Ice v.2.4

[Mgeterno11]

Thanks. I won't update until you are ready, -W3SK3R-, and yes, please add for me cool skins and icons and models and cool music for that map. Then it will be much better. ) What is that human hero, rysnt11?
Thanks your help again. )

 

[rysnt11]

The new human hero one, paladin like but with eagle on his helmet

 

[Mgeterno11]

Many thanks, rysnt11. So would you send me the unit data and that eagle helmet model?

 

[rysnt11]

No, the eagle paladin is the 'bugged' hero, same like the orc hero's bug..

 

[Mgeterno11]

Thanks, but i do not know why is that prtoblem still exist, because i set the tier requirements and the gameplay constants well, would you tell me how do i fix it?

 

[Mgeterno11]

The bug is now corrected, sorry that i updated again, but that is a big mistake.
Is it good now?

 

[Wandering Soul]

There's no uniqueness in the new heroes...
All of them have some mixed up skills from other heroes...
And some of them are imbalance...

If, you planned to add more heroes in updates to come, I recommend you to create some custom made hero skills for all the new Heroes instead.

 

[Bugz]

Or check out the spell section

 

[Mgeterno11]

Many thanks, both of you. I am going to do that.

 

[Foronisus]

Great map..

 

[Mgeterno11]

Many thanks, Dude:

 

[Adiktuz]

Does the default melee AI work on this map?

 

[Mgeterno11]

Yes, it does. But idk that the melee AI summons custom heros, too.

 

[Luffy]

this is turning to something that I've never expected of, I think I'll check this soon (y) xP

 

[Mgeterno11]

What is the thing that you did not expect?
Yes, check it, have a good time.

 

[Luffy]

The thing that I did not expect is this map turning to a good one and recieving some good reviews. No offense, lol.
I will.

 

[Bugz]

Imao... so kind

 

[Luffy]

Imao... so kind

lol, but ofcourse it is! xPP also I always appreciate honesty more than gentility, also at some lands it's believed that being honest is the most gentle value xP

 

[Mgeterno11]

Thanks, Luffy. I am trying to improve that map as much i can, and i think it is getting very good like that. the gameplay is already different as you can see.

 

[Warchief Aeon]

Review

not much people play melee nowadays,you should make another map ^^

Thats not true at all... There are many people ( i won't say names) that play melee by will not just testing. I do that as well, but normally are Altered melee, i also play very much the standard game type ( i mean the maps that come with the game when u buyed it, like the campaings)

The Discription was good enough to make a review, stil there are things that might be non-sense because i don't played (due to crashed game).
There it goes:

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Strenghts:
Terrain: Very powerful, very well worked also the weather. = 1,00
Units: They look perfectly done. = 0,25
Buildings: the same as units = 0,20
Playablility: Very good, for it's a melee = 0,50

Weakness:
Popularity: very low, but considering the fact of being a melee map... = 0,05
Words: there are few words wrriten wrong, like on the loading screen, you should fix it = -0,05

Bad Things: Nothing too bad to being here.

Good Things:
Discription: Well done = 1,00
Dificult: not too hard nor easy = 0,05

Notes:
5/5 = Epic
4/5 = Awesome
3/5 = Nice
2/5 = Aprovable
1/5 = Rejectable
0/5 = Horrible + Rejection in my opinion

Map Note: 4,00 (4/5) = Awesome

Else Things: Nice Map maker, Melee Map with very good things.

Overral:
4/5 = Awesome + Aprovall + 1REP Point to maker
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Awesome map you might have got there man, and you also looks nice guy and great map maker

 

[Mgeterno11]

Hi Warchief Aeon. At first, thanks for that review and for the rep+!. I am glad that you like my map and the good things about it.
Yes, i am trying to do the best becuase i am new to triggers, but units are my strenghtness. Anyway, i will fix the mistake in the Loading Screen. Yes, i agree with the popularity, melee maps are not the most playing today. I am also planning to add more frozen models and icons and skins and abilities.
Anyway. do you suggest anything about my map? ))

 

[Warchief Aeon]

No Sugestions...

I can't give suggestions for the map is too awesome... I think you should do what you think is right to do... but a little suggestion doesn't hurts

I saw in the screenshot Orc Buildings, maybe you should use custom models and skins for them as well. But i think you working on it already.
Yes lol this wrong words can bring your map down lol

Thanks for Friendship and Rep im glad to know i have got a melee player as friend

Keep going with great work

 

[noobieatmaps]

So I played it and here is what I think:

Through Snow and Ice
Review by Noobieatmaps
Visuals: The custom UI was a plus and the terrain was well made. 5/5

Gameplay: Well, what much else can you say, it's a melee map. The creeps are harder as you said they would be, but sometimes all the creep camps make it hard to navigate. 4/5

Concept: Your idea of making the map focused on killing creeps worked well. However the custom heroes should have unique abilitys or else they are just another hero with a model edit and a few different spells. 3/5

Replay Value: See my comment on page 13. 4/5

Overall: 15/20 =4/5
+rep for a good melee map.

 

[Warchief Aeon]

Omg

Replay Value: This is hard to judge on since it is a melee map. I don't want to be unfair, but I can't give a really high score since it is a melee map. 3/5

huh? why that? you are seeing how the map is good or how much you like it? you can't say that a map is bad because you don't like it's type! lol
I hate DotA maps but i did never judged them wrong like this exept if they rly bad triggered...

 

[noobieatmaps]

I guess you're right.
But again, what would I put? Maybe someone who likes melee maps would give him a higher score.
If I personally don't think melee maps have replay value, I probably won't mark any melee maps with a high replay value unless some pops out. I didn't judge the whole thing "wrong". It's that a high score would be wierd but a low score might be unfair.
I'm leaving my rating as it stands. You don't have to agree. It's just personally, I can't give it a high score in that area. I try to keep my reviews as fair as possible. He would probably get a higher and more accurate score from a melee map expert. But I am trying to give reviews to maps to help the creators in the areas I can, but I can't help in every area.
Would you say that to me if I said I didn't like a romance movie just because I don't like romance movies in general? It's all about perspective. I'm just trying to give him some general things to fix, but the review would be higher if I liked melee. I'm sorry if I screwed up a review because of preference.

 

[Mgeterno11]

Thanks for your review, Noobieatmaps. Yes, i am working on that map and iam planning to add much more abilities.
Creeps are strong, i agree, but you shoud train mighty untis from the Mercenary Camps (see the picture in the description) and make a huge army with strong units.
Actually, i know that some people do not like melee maps, and you rated it personally 3/5, because you do not like melle maps very much. But i do not know why do not much people like melee maps, they are so entertaining. I suggest it to play it more often with all the 4 races. The Undead custom hero has the Death Aura which can coll enemies more often.
According to your comment, Warchief Aeon, thanks that you standed at my side.
But i agree on that point that peope are different and if some of them don't like melee maps that they don't like. But i still don't know why not??

 

[Ketsuno Anson]

2 reviews out of nowhere,i guess this map is getting popular

 

[Bugz]

People looks after comments, and this map had alot ( Not impotent stuff atm..... )

 

[Ketsuno Anson]

why did you even tell me that? not on topic either

 

[Bugz]

I simply answered your answer. Considered on-topic

 

[Mgeterno11]

Yes, many thanks both of you, i think that thias map is getting famous, too. The donwloads increased more that 80 a day!

 

[Bugz]

Hits: 8031

Pretty own-age, so fast this map got hits. It's only a while back that it got accepted

 

[noobieatmaps]

Dear Mgeterno11,
I feel sorry for giving you a low score in that area because of my preference.
I will change your replay value score to 4/5
Making your total score 16/20=4/5

 

[Warchief Aeon]

Thanks for your review, Noobieatmaps. Yes, i am working on that map and iam planning to add much more abilities.
Creeps are strong, i agree, but you shoud train mighty untis from the Mercenary Camps (see the picture in the description) and make a huge army with strong units.
Actually, i know that some people do not like melee maps, and you rated it personally 3/5, because you do not like melle maps very much. But i do not know why do not much people like melee maps, they are so entertaining. I suggest it to play it more often with all the 4 races. The Undead custom hero has the Death Aura which can coll enemies more often.
According to your comment, Warchief Aeon, thanks that you standed at my side.
But i agree on that point that peope are different and if some of them don't like melee maps that they don't like. But i still don't know why not??

As i know, to judge a map you judge the Triggers, Doodads, Terrain, Playability, (sometimes) Popularity, Units (if is strong or weak), Dificult (if is easy or hard) and by the Discription. And few other things. Noobieatmaps, if u talking that i gave more points for the fact of being a melee map, u wrong, on my review the melee type was mean't to give the Map maker Rep point not to the map points... And i din't gave just because of the type, but also for how much nice is the map maker and how good he is. i din't judge anything wrong... To judge a map you must be general not personal...
if u understand what i mean...


Hey Mgterno
i was wondering... Can you maybe gave a ROC version of the map? i think is possible if u open the map with the ROC Version Editor instead of the TFT Version and then save it. i woul like very much to pley your map but i don't have TFT Expansion installed because has been bugged...

 

[Ketsuno Anson]

I still wonder why people have no TFT,its one of the most important thing to have if your gonna play war3

 

[Warchief Aeon]

I still wonder why people have no TFT,its one of the most important thing to have if your gonna play war3

Well if u wonder why i don't is because my Expansion has bigcrashed... Destroyed... it's just pieces of CD probably by now...
im trying to buy a new but my father don't let me lol
he said i don't deserve it

 

[Luffy]

well, after all those things I wrote, I would be a dick if I didn't check this out lol, so I checked this.
My review should be quite short though xPP
All is good, some neutral hostiles need modification though, some of their camp range is so wide that when I attempt to build my second camp at another gold mine, sometimes a dragon shows up from somewhere nearby and starts wreaking havoc lol. Or when I attempt to build a tower to a key position, a hostile which has no relation comes up and destroys it along with my worker, annoying. Set their camp range and stuff shorter.
Some neutral hostiles have spell immunity, I understand that, but the bad point is apparently gryphon riders cannot hit them, lol.
And HUD is awesome. Some parts look annoying though, but I can't make a detailed explanation of which part is looking bad or what, I just can't lol.
Other than that, not bad.

 

[rysnt11]

Some info that i'd like to see on new version:

• fix the infernal, they should magic immune, the golems are magic immune (it's their natural, that rock, and metals resist magical damage)
• fix the icy golem!
• fix all tooltips on hostile's merc camp!, they didn't appear to be displaying the ability owned by the creep
• dael'barun(, or dael'chas?)'s power is too powerful, make him in normal size, reduce the damage a 'bit', and increase the rejuvenation's heal amount
• add new ability(i'm making the abils at sat, just pray for my health)
• the last one, but this will make this 'altered', make new race!

 

[Mgeterno11]

Many thanks both of you.
According to Luffy's request, i reduced the Tuskarr's acquistion range, and moved the dragon and some creeps a bit further. Well, use knights and other mighty units from the Mercenary Camps (mighty units, see screenshots) to destroy the infernals. What is HUD?
I think this is the challenge in my map that you have to rase a huge army to kill the creeps and your enemies.
According to rysnt11's request, i reduced the damage of the Dael'chas, and i gave him a stronger rejuvenation ability. I will fix the tooltips, too.
Anyway, i hope you will be healed, too, and i hope you will be in better health. D Can you make the abilities in my map?
Well, Warchief Aeon, sorry, but i cannot make you a RoC version since Icecrown tileset is only available in TFT, so try to ask your friends about it, or donwload it thourh the internet.

 

[Luffy]

oh, and meanwhile, I forgot to mention some other flaws though, new additional heroes at altar of kings require no food, and they can be trained more than one.

cycled part is HUD, and orange cycled part is the annoying part, lol (but only for me) that scythe thing you know, I think it looks bad there.

 

[Ketsuno Anson]

the scythe has to be fixed by an artist

 

[Mgeterno11]

Many thaks that you told me these things, Luffy. But i do not know why this problem still exist, i changed the tiers well and i put the new heroes to the gameplay constants. So, the scythe has to be fixed by an artist, but i think it is good like that, too.

 

[noobieatmaps]

Warchief Aeon,
Sorry if I was being rude.
I'm just trying to be as fair
as I can but I fail at a little bit.

 

[Warchief Aeon]

Warchief Aeon,
Sorry if I was being rude.
I'm just trying to be as fair
as I can but I fail at a little bit.

It's alright just don't judge a map by the fact u like it or not or i see nothing of fair on that... but you have done well
Keep going on your good work...

 

[Mgeterno11]

No problem, Noobieatmaps. D It is alright and i understand it. You both have done well.
Anyway, downloads jumped more that 100 in two days!!

 

[Warchief Aeon]

No problem, Noobieatmaps. D It is alright and i understand it. You both have done well.
Anyway, downloads jumped more that 100 in two days!!

Wow looks like we found some melee lovers or your map is just Awesome that lured them lol! i can't wait anymore!! i have to buy this game this week!!

 

[Mgeterno11]

Yes, wow, we did! Luckly. I am glad you warned me about the name mistakes, becuase since i corrected it many people downloads it. D So buy the TFT, it is cheap and worth to buy it. )

 

[Warchief Aeon]

Yes, wow, we did! Luckly. I am glad you warned me about the name mistakes, becuase since i corrected it many people downloads it. D So buy the TFT, it is cheap and worth to buy it. )

yeah il try take care of that this week. maybe today yet! just have to wait my father give me money and done...
Reign of Chaos =
The Frozen Throne =
TFT + ROC Campaign =

 

[noobieatmaps]

Wow, it's pretty amazing to see all the downloads!

Well done Mgenterno!!!

 

[Warchief Aeon]

YAAAYYY!!!!!!!!!! Got the game! finally il test the map DDD

and this is the frist il download!
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OMG! i tryed but when loading the game crashes and say that memory couldn't be read. is the pixel problem?