this model is bugged

[stan0033]

I made this and I was trying to find out why it acts buggy 2 hours on??

- only stand animation plays properly
- birth and death animation do not play ingame. When teh unit gets built it shows all geosets which should not be. When it it dies it jsut stands there and then switches to decay
- also the separate _portrait model is not shown
can someone look at it and tell me what's wrong with it?

 

[General Frank]

Try recalculating the extents of the model with Magos. That might help.

 

[Hermit]

- only stand animation plays properly
- birth and death animation do not play ingame. When teh unit gets built it shows all geosets which should not be. When it it dies it jsut stands there and then switches to decay

Same problem as your Square_Worker model; sequences are not in the correct order.

- also the separate _portrait model is not shown

Open the model with War3 Model Editor; Edit > Calculate Extents.

 

[stan0033]

What is the correct order of animations?
Birth, Death, Stand, Attack, Walk, Spell

Soo the order of frame ranges must be the same order as the order of sequences?

If so, I did this and it's the same problem. I changed the frame range of Stand to be after Decay

 

[General Frank]

What is the correct order of animations?
Birth, Death, Stand, Attack, Walk, Spell

The order does not matter at all, actually.
As long as your animations have distinct keyframes and intervals and have the correct looping/non-looping flags, the order of the animations is not important.

 

[Hermit]

The order does not matter at all, actually.
As long as your animations have distinct keyframes and intervals and have the correct looping/non-looping flags, the order of the animations is not important.

Actually, you'll find that models don't work properly in game (but still work in War3 Model Editor) if sequences are not arranged so that their keyframes are in ascending order, as I already said in his other thread.

 

[stan0033]

Welll, they have, and still have problems.

 

[Hermit]

Change this

Into this

 

[General Frank]

Again, does not matter.
All I can see in this is that they need extends!

 

[Hermit]

Again, does not matter.

Maybe it's different now for Reforged models, but over the years I've had many cases where models didn't work just because of the order of sequences.

 

[General Frank]

Maybe it's different now for Reforged models, but over the years I've had many cases where models didn't work just because of the order of sequences.

I doubt that. I've been doing buildings and stuff since 2007 or so and never had a problem.
Neither do I have the problem now in classical mode.

 

[Hermit]

I doubt that. I've been doing buildings and stuff since 2007 or so and never had a problem.
Neither do I have the problem now in classical mode.

Here's a simple example if you want to try it out for yourself; here you have two Grunt models; I changed the order of some sequences in one of them and the other one has not been edited. Their animations look identical in War3 Model Editor, Mdlvis and Retera's Model Studio, but only one of them works properly when they're imported into a map.

 

[stan0033]

Hermit is right, the order of sequences matters. I spent like 30+ mins on my worker model to rearrange sequences and it has no problem now.

 

[General Frank]

It works for me either way. The unit moves, stands, attacks, dies and decay normally.
The order does NOT matter.

 

[Hermit]

It works for me either way. The unit moves, stands, attacks, dies and decay normally.
The order does NOT matter.

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It's probably a game version thing. I'm using patch 1.29.2 and for me it looks like this:

 

[General Frank]

I guess so.
So we both are correct in that case.

 

[stan0033]

Change this

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Into this

View attachment 354079

I didnt do it with these exact numbers, but switched the order. The problem is still there

 

[General Frank]

What version of wc3 are you using and do you use a legit copy?

 

[Hermit]

I didnt do it with these exact numbers, but switched the order.

What do you mean? it seems like you're just randomly jumbling the sequences and hoping it will work.

The problem is still there

Because you still didn't do as I said.

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[stan0033]

i am 1.26.. wait ill try this

 

[GhostWolf]

Tested on 1.29.2 and 1.30.4, and the issue is in both. What version are you using, Frank?
I can't fathom how the order makes the game break in any way, just wow.

/edit
Forgot to say, the edited model in the previous post does work for me, and shouldn't have any issues as far as I can see from its data. Are you sure you tested it properly? e.g. restart WE/reopen your map after importing.

I will add this error to the sanity tester.