The Rumor!

[Hawkwing]

Illidan is just entirley power hungry. What will happen to Kael'thas after Illidan is dead. Will he join the Blood Elves on Azeroth. Or join the Burning Legion like his Sunfury men. I doubt he will go back to Azeroth and join the Blood Elves on Azeroth after him joining Illidan but he may go further into alliance with the Burning Legion.

The Horde would be out numbered without the Forsaken. They would loose all the undead and all of northern Eastern Kingdoms. Knowing the undead and Sylvanas the Forsaken would proboaly take over the Horde bases in Hinterlands and Arathi.

Really it was smart for the Forsaken to join the Horde because then they have some more men and they got some help from the Argent Dawn, meaning they can have some support in the Plaguelands against the Scourge. If they weren't part of the Horde everyone would treat Forsaken just like a second Scourge.

 

[Cool Joe Smith]

humm, you kill Kael'thasn a raid do you not?
i would think Blizzard will do something to blow our minds for the next expasion... attack on the burning legion's home world or somthing like that (yes, i know that is a absolute mess up of lore...)
and teh maximum possible lvl (currently by use of GM) is 255: i know cuz my friend had a haked server(where he could do anything he wanted)

and there: i contributed something...

 

[Pyritie]

Nah, max level of 225 would just be too hard and too ridiculous. Blizzard wants newer players to still have a chance of being the maximum level without having to have bought the game when it came out.

The max level cap will probably end at around somewhere like level 110 or something. Maybe 120.

 

[brad.dude03]

Well no he's saying that the theoretical maximum level you can reach in WoW is 255. The bosses and such though must be higher, i'm thinking around 500. I'm pretty sure that Thrall and the gang are all level 500.

Whether they will ever make the level cap that high is unlikely.

 

[Nazghul_Master]

I hope that Arthas, the Lich King will be fightable in the next expansion, popably not but still.. it would be so damnd cool.. But propably your level must get raised from 70 to 80 and you propably need a raid group of 60 people and all like tier 10 or something...

 

[Rui]

That is probably not going to happen. If the Lich King dies, the Undead Scourge will go mindless. Of course, Blizzard has ruined the lore enough, so I'm not 100% sure.

 

[Hawkwing]

Tier 25 Raid sets...the Shoulder pads are bigger than your entire character.. XD

 

[Dionesiist]

. I say Goblins may be playable in one of the expansions because they already got mounts, male/female models, all the required animations of a player

So do Broken, Fel Orcs, Naga and Skeletons

 

[Mecheon]

So do Broken, Fel Orcs, Naga and Skeletons

Naga lack most of the animations, including but not limited to most emotes and mount, while Broken, Fel Orcs and Skeletons all lack female versions

Heck, Arakkoa have more animations than Naga. Speaking of which, Arakkoa, unlike the only other creature with animations rivaling their's, the Worgen, are made of Win, Awesome and Epic, and should become a playable race even if it involves mass lore destruction. That's how cool the Arakkoa are, and unlike the Worgen they have this thing called intelegence

Worgen, by the way, are still the same beastial bipedial wolves, who are feral, savage and cunning, but make ogres look like geniuses. Why they have a mount animation is beyond me, as their opinion of "Mount" would be "Potato"

Goblins were also considered to be an actual race at a point in time, and are the only non-playable race that actually have helmet model files ingame, albiet incorrectly named and therefore unusable

 

[Rui]

Yes, the Arakkoa is indeed an interesting race.

but make ogres look like geniuses.

/rofl a genius ogre xD


Did Blizzard say anything about expansions, specifically, if there would be new races EVERY expansion? Because I don't see much hope in more races. Naga joining the Horde... bleh, maybe to help Illidan escape the claws of the Demons, but they have a tail, four arms, etc... so it has numerous technical difficulties.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Maybe they could be original for once and invent a race no one has ever seen in any other game or movie.

Actually scratch that, no one ever did that, I doubt Blizzard will.

 

[Mecheon]

Did Blizzard say anything about expansions, specifically, if there would be new races EVERY expansion? Because I don't see much hope in more races. Naga joining the Horde... bleh, maybe to help Illidan escape the claws of the Demons, but they have a tail, four arms, etc... so it has numerous technical difficulties.

They didn't say anything about them, we're just assuming

Also, Naga hate the Horde, think they're primitive beasts, are attacking and destroying their ports and are not new race material. That, and the infient underwater breathing buff, plus the technical difficulties. Also, gender-specific buffs. Female Naga are awesome spellcasters, while male ones are dumb as bricks, but are tanks. Hence the females having several arms while the males are much larger

Maybe they could be original for once and invent a race no one has ever seen in any other game or movie.

Actually scratch that, no one ever did that, I doubt Blizzard will.

Draenei

Yeah, I consider the blue Ereder as different from the fungus men

Also, people will cry bloody murder if they just throw a random race into the game which hasn't existed for ages. Hence why I reckon its going to be a Horde or Alliance specific trading cartel of Goblins for a next race

 

[Rui]

Males are dumb? But in the TFT Campaign they were somewhat intelligent, see the first night elf mission.

 

[Hawkwing]

The Naga would not work to be a new race, for sure. Imagine a Naga riding a mount. Their tails would mess everything up. The Naga would have to have some Warriors, Hunters, Shamans, Druids (Possibly), Warlocks (Possibly), and a few other classes for Males and Hunters, Druids (Possibly), Shamans, Mages, Warlocks, Priests for Females. For sure would never work

Arrakoa I can see working if they edit the model a bit. There are some friendly Arrakoa NPC's in the game. They would need to make a mount for them too. Well then again they came up with the Elekk and Hawkstrider. This race would proboaly go to the Alliance. Then for the Horde, the once again obvious, Goblins. A crazy idea here but like Gnomes machine mounts. Some what not dangerous looking Goblin Shredders. Haha

 

[Rui]

The Naga aren't connected to the Naaru, so they can have no priests, neither I see them being druids.

Classes would most likely be:

• Rogue, they're serpents after all, serpents are among the most talented predators in the animal world;
• Warrior, default to all races.
• Mages, since it is connected to the Arcane.
• Warlocks, maybe, since those Naga that served Illidan were serving the Legion at the same time;
• Hunters, since they also drew some Mur'guls to their service.

I don't think any more classes fit for them:

• Not Druid, since the Night Elves use the Druid magic, and I don't see the Naga being agents of Nature itself.
• Paladin/Priest also doesn't fit, since the Naga aren't connected to the Naaru.
• I doubt the Naga have any inclination to Shamans.

So that concludes it. But of course Blizzard can mess with the lore, as always.

 

[brad.dude03]

That is probably not going to happen. If the Lich King dies, the Undead Scourge will go mindless. Of course, Blizzard has ruined the lore enough, so I'm not 100% sure.

It will happen, eventually. Blizz devs said it will. As I've stated 5 times already though, you will have to be at least level 100 before Blizzard lets you fight him. Like Illidan or Kel'Thuzard or anyone else, the Licxh King will die and respawn shortly thereafter.

 

[Horn]

Its farrrr too early to worry about another expansion, but if it does happen, then it was obvious.

Actually it was this time last year when the TBC rumours started.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

yeh they said they were gunna bring out a new expansion every year or something.

 

[Rui]

Brad, how is that possible? If the Lich King dies, gg Scourge. He can only die once. I can't believe Chris Metzen allowed this to happen.

 

[brad.dude03]

Brad, how is that possible? If the Lich King dies, gg Scourge. He can only die once. I can't believe Chris Metzen allowed this to happen.

Yiou've never played WoW before? You can already kill the immortal firelord, Illidan, Onyxia, Thrall, Kel'Thuzard, ETC. They just respawn later in the game like every other monster does.

It's not realistic, and it doesn't fit the lore (obviously) but it works. Like every computer controlled player in any MMO, all of the bosses come back to life shortly after being killed so that they can be killed.... again....

That's just how MMO's work, it's not supposed to canonical at all, the death. When a boss dies, it just gets revived later, so the lore treats it like the death never happened in the first place.

 

[Rui]

But when Thrall dies, for example, the Orcs don't go mindless. My point is, no Lich King = Mindless Undead. Forsaken are a perfect example, and at that point, the Lich King was only weak and not even dead.

 

[Nazghul_Master]

Just something which I thought would be usefull here:"

Wattefuck? How can 20-40 people kill Illidan (Nihilum did)?? Aint that just obscure?? I mean, seriously this goes beyond my mind... Illidan is like 100 times weaker than Archimonde atleast in warcraft 3, and the guild uses like the same gear and the same amount of people to clear Archimonde as for Illidan... what is this? I mean... this is sick... and for people to know:

Kiljaeden was like the master of Ner'Zhul (so more powerfull I'd say?else why would Ner'Zhul listen to him) and imo I'd say while Kiljaeden is smarter, Archimonde is much more or identical in power as Kiljaeden... which brings me to the conclusion

If Kiljaeden is stronger then Ner'Zhul, and Archimonde is stronger or equal to Kiljaeden, that makes Archimonde more powerfull than the Lich King which makes the fight at Mount Hyal equal or just a little bit easier (since Arthas fused with Ner'Zhul) than the comming fight in Icecrown....

So... OR blizzard seriously got to make Archimonde more godly, like in Warcraft 3... OR they should fix the part where Ner'Zhul listens to Kiljaedens command

 

[brad.dude03]

You're forgetting a few things:

When you kill Archimonde, there are several level 500 characters fighting alongside with you, and as well, it's ultimately the wisps that destroy him, not you.

 

[Rui]

Ner'zhul was backstabbed, and he was cast into an icy cage, remember?

I didn't know Nihilium was lvl 20-40, though.

 

[brad.dude03]

Nihilum isn't level 20 to 40 lol! That would be outrageous. They are all obvious level 70, as it would be hopeless and pointless to try and do level 70 instances at any other level. They all have the best gear and are hardcore to the max, that's why they get everythingm done first.

There are 20-40 people in that raid group, is what he said.

 

[Rui]

He removed the lvl behind that then, lol, I'm sure I read lvl. w/e then, I'm tired anyway.

 

[Saryeit]

But they wont. Northrend isn't coming for at least another two expansions yet. Blizzard has stated NUMEROUS times that there is no way that people are going to fight Arthas unless they are AT LEAST level 100. They want to make Arthas as badass as possible so:

NORTHREND IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

But Blizzard has also said...

"YOU MUST BE LEVEL 80 TO FACE ARTHAS"

Then theres the files that were hidden in the PTR, then taken out soon after.

In other news, Hyjal is permanently nerfed in 2.1.2, if you enter the zone you get ported out. /cry

 

[Mecheon]

Then theres the files that were hidden in the PTR, then taken out soon after.

The trees and items? They're still there

Anywho, it'd be stupid for Blizzard to make Northrend when they still haven't made the South Seas yet. They should make South Seas and give boats or something, then make Northrend and make it so you need boats to get there

Mainly cause the South Seas includes Bloodsail Buccaneer content (GASP, FINALLY), Mur'Gul, Pandarens and Goblins

Northrend on the other hand has a peaceful tribe of Murlocs, angry Polar Furbolgs and Nerubians

Males are dumb? But in the TFT Campaign they were somewhat intelligent, see the first night elf mission.

Dumb as bricks. They're somewhat intelegent, but they exist to be bodyguards who operate on the whims of their female masters

The Naga aren't connected to the Naaru, so they can have no priests, neither I see them being druids.

Priests don't require a connection to the Naaru. Look at Night Elf, Troll and Undead priests, no connection at all to any Naaru there. I can see the Naga having priests of Azshara somehow, like Quillboar have priests of their somewhat very dead boar demi-god

But still, they're Naga and they hate surface dwellers

 

[Hawkwing]

My quess is that something like this will happen...

First Expansion: Level Cap Raised to 80. Emerald Dream released. "You have to fight level 70-80 creatures of this so called "Nightmare". Druid NPC's mostly Male Night Elves give quests for it. South Seas also released. Bloodsail Buccaneers, Mukrura, Mur'gul, Naga enemies to fight. Ships travel from island to island like Horde Zepplins. Pandaren NPC's are also released in the South Seas.

(Possibly) If new races are added which I kinda doubt. It will proboaly be Goblins and Pandaren.

Second Expansion: Level Cap raised to 90. Northrend and Maelstorm released. Nazjatzar becomes new raid in Maelstorm. (Huge Naga Raid) (Blizzard will proboaly kill off Azshara too). You use boats in the South Seas to get to Northrend where you fight Polar Furbologs, Nerubians, Blue Dragonflight, and Ice Trolls. The creatures in this expansion are level 80-90.

Third Expansion/Big Patch like 2.1: Icecrown is released. All enemies are Scourge or Nerubian from Azjol'Nerub. In the heart of Icecrown is Icecrown Citadel (Raid). There is one camp in a corner of Icecrown for quests, but it is tiny with no flight path or Inkeeper. (Knowing Blizzard, they are proboaly gonna kill off Arthas too). (If Expansion) Level Cap raised to 100.

 

[Nazghul_Master]

How about that twisting nether thing?

 

[Rui]

Blizzard would really need to ruin to lore to let players go there.

 

[Nazghul_Master]

yeah, lol but still ^^ you know blizzard, they got no honor or whatsover about ruining their own lore lol

 

[brad.dude03]

But Blizzard has also said...

"YOU MUST BE LEVEL 80 TO FACE ARTHAS"

Then theres the files that were hidden in the PTR, then taken out soon after.

In other news, Hyjal is permanently nerfed in 2.1.2, if you enter the zone you get ported out. /cry

When did Blizzard ever say this? I specifically remember reading an article about a year ago, on Gamespy, where they asked about Arthas and Northrend and all the like (this was back before we knew anything about TBC so alot of people still thought it was gonna be northrend) and they said "We're leaving Northrend and Arthas out for this one. We want Arthas to be as badass as possible, so we think you're going to have to be a very high level to take him, just to do him justice".

They stated later in the interview that level 100+ would be needed for Arthas.

 

[Rui]

Well, I think 25 lvl 70 people might be stronger than a lvl 100?

 

[brad.dude03]

Quite obviously. But 1 level 100 wont do anything against the Lich King. 25 level 100 at least will be needed to fight him. We're talking like a level 600 - 700 boss here people.

 

[Nazghul_Master]

Hmm, then Í'm wondering how powerfull Sargeras fight must be if it will come (like in caverns of time that you will got to assist the guardian)

 

[Hawkwing]

There is currently a area called the "Twisting Nether". It's the open areas in Outland kinda like the Oceans on Azeroth. It has it's own General Chat and everything. Just no creatures, Camps, or NPC's.

 

[Rui]

Lich King is that high level? First he was 80, then he was 90, then he was 100, now he's 600-700? <.<

 

[Hawkwing]

The Lich King being level 80 would be way too low. It said you needed to be level 100 to defeat the Lich King. Well if they Lich King was level 80 you could proboaly solo him! 90 would still be easy. 100 would just be like a normal elite creature. He would proboaly just be ??? like any other high level boss.

 

[brad.dude03]

Lich King is that high level? First he was 80, then he was 90, then he was 100, now he's 600-700? <.<

ALL CURRENT ENDGAME BOSSES IN WOW ARE LEVEL 500.

In order to fight a level 500, you need a LARGE group of level 70 players. Only your combined power can defeat such a high level.

In the case of the Lich King, he will be level 600 or 700.

In order to kill something like that, you will need a VERY LARGE group of level 100's.

This means the players in the group fighting the boss will have to be level 100, and the actual boss will be 600 to 700.

 

[Nazghul_Master]

Maybe you guys forgot you dont need to get to level 100? Maybe blizzard will finally introduce the hero classes

 

[Rui]

Someone said Spellbreaker would be a new class in BC, perhaps they will introduce it in the next expansion.

 

[Nazghul_Master]

Doubt it.. but possible

 

[Hawkwing]

I kinda doubt they will introduce new classes. A Spellbreaker is basicly a Paladin/Warrior. And the only races that I could think they would release would be Pandaren and Goblins.

Goblins Starting Place: Isle of Kezan (Undermine)

Pandaren Starting Place: Pandaria

 

[brad.dude03]

NO. New classes are NOT going to be released, Blizzard stated so when everyone thought SpellBreaker and Deathknight would be the new classes. The current classes in WoW are UNBALANCED as it is, Blizzard is not going to add anymore to the mix until they can get the present classes worked out.

Besides, you'd need to go up levels to get to the hero classes even IF they did decide to add them, dumbass.

 

[Rui]

Spell Breaker is a mix of Paladins and Warriors? I don't think so. Paladins use Holy Magic, and warriors are usually tanks. Spell Breaker is neither of them. Perhaps a bit of warrior, yes, but they are mainly anti-spellcasters.

I didn't hear about Death Knights, though. Where did that idea come from, anyway? Death Knights are Paladins turned Undead by the Lich King. If the Undead Scourge is in neither Alliance or Horde, how could they fit in? Or would Sylvanas charm Paladins now? Geez, people get these crazy ideas...

Besides, did you even think there would be 2 new classes for Horde and no new class for the Alliance? Or, let me guess, Human spellbreakers? Give me a break. Horde already owns Alliance as it is, the best thing that could be done is to give two unique classes to the Horde.

 

[brad.dude03]

Exactly. It was obviously total BS just like the Spellbreaker crap. There are not going to be any new classes.

 

[Rui]

Spell Breaker made sence, somewhat, since the Blood Elves would be getting in and as we can see, they have Spell Breakers in Warcraft III. But Death Knights serve the Scourge only, so that was totally pathetic.

 

[Nazghul_Master]

Rui... did you ever see blizzard make any SENCE in WoW? no they didnt

P.S. and you are wrong Rui... death knights dont only serve the scourge, what about Teron Gorefiend from warcraft 2? He was the master of the death knights and is stationed in Outland, he doesnt serve the scourge, he is just from another 'breed' of death knights, so change the word 'death knights' into something more specific, since the total of death knights doesnt only serve the lich king...

 

[Rui]

The Death Knights of the Horde have nothing to do with the Death Knights of the Scourge. Point is, those Death Knights do not serve the Forsaken either. Is it that hard to get what I mean?