The River Connection

[Augustus_Magnus]

Ah, it might've been forteen lol. The map is not melee because i changed something with the triggers, no worries tho. Everything should be working great.

 

[Kino]

I like the overall landscape geometry.
However the tile textures, doodads and cliff-work is very rudimentary; the map as whole screams that it was made in a hurry.
With a melee map, you only have to make your terrain good; thus the margin of what is acceptable is much higher than say a large RPG.
The less content you have, the higher quality it needs to be to be acceptable.
- Moved to too simple.

 

[Augustus_Magnus]

I shall try to make this look better, i guess you don't like the overal doodads on the cliffs. But of corse there is not to much i can change on that, and i do like it so...

With a melee map, you only have to make your terrain good; thus the margin of what is acceptable is much higher than say a large RPG.

I don't think this is thrue, surely I think a lot about my map. I think pathing and having enough creeps/neutral buildings on good spots is more important then terrain.

The less content you have, the higher quality it needs to be to be acceptable.

So you mean if I upload five crap maps a day you're going to approve them? I surely don't agree with that.
If I misunderstand, pls say

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[deepstrasz]

3/5. Seems interesting but it's not melee ready.
-Rune of Rebirth might become an exploit at times since players don't require food for it to recreate the dead unit
-human units as neutral passive are confusing
-some players are nearer to a type of fountain than others

 

[Augustus_Magnus]

3/5. Seems interesting but it's not melee ready.
-Rune of Rebirth might become an exploit at times since players don't require food for it to recreate the dead unit
-human units as neutral passive are confusing
-some players are nearer to a type of fountain than others

Thanks for feedback

 

[Aether]

I expected too much on this, I though the middle was a connection or way on reaching to other player. Instead you used a Zepplin to reach others, but its a good concept in starting a melee maps.

Let me start with the bases. The bases is too small, you can't build many buildings in one base mostly on Blue's and Purple's starting point and even if you conquer a another gold mine, it is still small especially the two gold mines outside the player's starting point, you can barely build Town Hall on that island.

The Tavern was a problem too, it is too close to the player's starting point, either you will move it away a little bit or remove it. Other shops is not a problem, it is on the proper placed.

The terrain is not that bad, I can see it that you tried your best in making it, however the tiles variation need to be improve but I think the doodads is enough. On the other hand, cliffs need some work too. Like what Kino said, you kinda made it in a hurry, especially the cliffs.

Please, give more work on the symmetry, the Blue's and Purple's base need some work or shall I say balancing, because the Red's and Teal's base is big enough while Blue's and Purple's base is so small, you can only build the starting buidlings. Also, the neutrals is a problem too. Firstly, some camps is in random. For example, a camp with Wolves.. and Murlocs? You should only put one race in per camp, such as Murloc in one camp with no wolves.

Aside from that, it seems everything is good. Oh, it reminds, kindly remove the passive Footman and Knight camp, it hurts my eyes since it does nothing. Anyways, the map is very interesting. I hope you improve it. Moreover, I suggest to take a look on this.

 

[deepstrasz]

he Tavern was a problem too, it is too close to the player's starting point, either you will move it away a little bit or remove it. Other shops is not a problem, it is on the proper placed.

That's not really a problem. It's not like it's a Mercenary Camp. The Taverns, however, should be at the same distance from each player.

Also, the neutrals is a problem too. Firstly, some camps is in random. For example, a camp with Wolves.. and Murlocs? You should only put one race in per camp, such as Murloc in one camp with no wolves.

Why? Wolves have some abilities, Murlocs have others. For instance Critical Strike and Poison with Ensnare. I disagree that the neutral creep camps should only contain one type of race. It's totally unoriginal.

 

[Augustus_Magnus]

DEEPSTRAZS' REVIEW

AETHER'S REVIEW

Well, what u said was very usefull, but i agree with deepstrasz about the creeps, Blizzard mixes races all the time. The cliffs will be changed a bit, more of the water could perhaps be used for bigger islands of purple and blue. The tavern... I thought of removing it, but i think having a frozen throne map without a tavern is not right. I agree that theyre placed wrong and will think of another place. Deepstrazs, u said that some ppl are closer to a fountain than others, wich is right and that's why FFA should not be played on this map. In a 2v2 scenario u will have one player on an island and another on a river-connected place (i hope ). Neutral passive confusing? Perhaps, yes. What do u think about just villagers as neutral passive? How can i work more on symmetry, if i remember correctly, i copied the whole thing (prob memory problems). A last question: this map is substandard, do i re-upload it if i want to get it approved? (It'll take a while, im bussy with two other maps, testing one, creating the other.)

 

[Aether]

That's not really a problem. It's not like it's a Mercenary Camp. The Taverns, however, should be at the same distance from each player.

To be honest, some maps I played by Blizzard, the tavern has a small distance to the base (I forgot which map it was), not really close to the base or gold mine.

Why? Wolves have some abilities, Murlocs have others. For instance Critical Strike and Poison with Ensnare. I disagree that the neutral creep camps should only contain one type of race. It's totally unoriginal.

Well, I only play melee map sometimes, and its kinda hard to notice, but you have good point.

What do u think about just villagers as neutral passive?

It would be nice instead of footmans and Knights.

How can i work more on symmetry, if i remember correctly, i copied the whole thing (prob memory problems).

What do you mean by "copied the whole thing"?

A last question: this map is substandard, do i re-upload it if i want to get it approved? (It'll take a while, im bussy with two other maps, testing one, creating the other.)

No need, you just need to update it, improve it and contact or wait for a map reviewer or map moderator to response.

 

[Augustus_Magnus]

To be honest, some maps I played by Blizzard, the tavern has a small distance to the base (I forgot which map it was), not really close to the base or gold mine.

Well, I only play melee map sometimes, and its kinda hard to notice, but you have good point.

It would be nice instead of footmans and Knights.

What do you mean by "copied the whole thing"?

No need, you just need to update it, improve it and contact or wait for a map reviewer or map moderator to response.

Thank u, the map will be updated, i just dont know when .

 

[deepstrasz]

To be honest, some maps I played by Blizzard, the tavern has a small distance to the base (I forgot which map it was), not really close to the base or gold mine.

SpiderFalls.

 

[Aether]

Thank u, the map will be updated, i just dont know when .

You're welcome, and no need to rush.

SpiderFalls.

I never played that one. The map I played last time was in Barrens.

 

[Augustus_Magnus]

SpiderFalls.

Wasnt it the last man standing map?

 

[deepstrasz]

Wasnt it the last man standing map?

Might be that one too. But this one, has the Tavern a few paces from your main building, and it's a BlizzEnt map.