The Assassin

[Deolrin]

If you have any feedback, suggestions or anything you want to say about the Assassin, revealed in Developer's Blog #1, please post it here.

 

[The World Is Flat]

I have to say, it kinda seems to generic.

 

[Whisper]

make them smaller they are way too big on the screenshots.

 

[Linaze]

@TWIF, I cannot agree at all. There is not a single unit in either of the four Warcraft tech trees that are either hired or permanently invisible. What is your definition of a "generic" unit?

@Whisper, they will be smaller, rest assured.

 

[RadiaNSh0t]

what kind of detectors are there, if not an army of assassins early game could end the enemy almost unharmed

 

[Linaze]

For detectors,the Horde has a flying copter and the Alliance has spellcasters. Also, the Assassin is not invisible while attacking.

 

[Deolrin]

@Linaze, I believe what TWIF was trying to say is that it's similar to other 'assassins' in other games, e.g. the Dark Templar in SC2. I agree, to some extent, but then again, the point here is not to make a unique unit but rather to make a useful unit with a relatively broad purpose and many strategical possibilities.

 

[The World Is Flat]

In use and application it is generic.
1) There are MANY stealthed melee high dps units out there for harass.
2) The idea of an assasin that operates in this way is again, unoriginal.
3) My suggestion is you rethink some mechanics, try to breathe new life into the concept.
4) I have a unit in LotD, a tauren Shaman, who has an ethereal form, with a catch, the unit is invisible on the radar, and only has a faint 'distortion' effect to the visible eye. these units do not auto aquire, and will not be attacked back unless the opposing player SPECIFICALLY targets them (they are targetable, but produce no selection circle) or has a detector which nullifies this field.
A kind of new way to approach the same end would produce a much more interesting inter-tech relationship in the game, producing new ideas to counter and utilize these units, And a more fun game experience with the all new mechanics.

 

[Deolrin]

4) This would require either A) SC2 or B) Super-extensive-and-possibly-impossible-triggering, two things that I believe we don't have or want.
1) In other maps, yes. Not in WC3 melee, WC2 melee or in SoC except for this one.
2) Where exactly?
3) Why exactly?

 

[The World Is Flat]

3) Fun, Originality, exceptionalisim.
4) Its my idea, ahnds off, it was an e.g.
2) About half of the maps i see, every nightelf basically has an ever more dumbed down version of this.
1) see 2.

 

[Deolrin]

2) Stop giving other maps as an example.
I don't think Linaze will take other custom made maps when he thinks about creativity or originality. I had to steer him away from using Critical Strike for example. I think all that matters is WC3, WC2 and other units in SoC when we talk about creativity.

 

[Delterius]

The Assassin unit's priority is, as I see it, to show the ambush and stealth side of warfare and to incorporate it in the setting of SoC. The implementation doesn't have to be unnecessarily complicated or imaginative to be fun and, more importantly, to blend in well with the game as a whole.

I am also a fan of the KISS principle.

 

[Wolfe]

TWIF, granted, the assassin being a high damaging melee unit is over-used, but it is a concept that works, and seems to work well (judging from the screenshots).

However, I have to say - your unit textures really don't blend well with the standard WC3 buildings. =/