The Abandoned Shores

[Moderator]

09:05, 1st Feb 2009
Rui: A low quality melee map. Please do not upload it on the Hive Workshop again.
[highlight]Rejected[/code].

 

[WaremDarkslayer]

I hope i did it good this time...

 

[APproject]

Well, let's talk about terrain..
I obvious, you tried. But.. There are empty places, you spam doodads at one place and you forget other. Of course there are quite beutiful places, but the point is that you miss the spots that badly requires doodads.

There is a big problem with creeps, very BIG. First of all, there are too manny of them, especially Murlocks at down left courner. When I saw that, I was like 'OH SHT!'. However, there is bigger problems with item dropping. It's like, almost every unit drops an item and there are places that a group of units don't drop anything.

I didn't like your trees, you mixed Ashenvale tree walls with Sunken Ruins tree wall, it just doesn't fits each other.

You should improve it all to get good enough rating.

EDIT: Oh, and one more thing. At start, Player 1 location is too close to 6 Green Dragon Whelps. I actually started at Player 2 location and Player 1 controlled by Computer was attacked by 6 Green Dragon Whelps and it's base got ruined.

 

[WaremDarkslayer]

i'll get on it

Well, let's talk about terrain..
I obvious, you tried. But.. There are empty places, you spam doodads at one place and you forget other. Of course there are quite beutiful places, but the point is that you miss the spots that badly requires doodads.

There is a big problem with creeps, very BIG. First of all, there are too manny of them, especially Murlocks at down left courner. When I saw that, I was like 'OH SHT!'. However, there is bigger problems with item dropping. It's like, almost every unit drops an item and there are places that a group of units don't drop anything.

I didn't like your trees, you mixed Ashenvale tree walls with Sunken Ruins tree wall, it just doesn't fits each other.

You should improve it all to get good enough rating.

EDIT: Oh, and one more thing. At start, Player 1 location is too close to 6 Green Dragon Whelps. I actually started at Player 2 location and Player 1 controlled by Computer was attacked by 6 Green Dragon Whelps and it's base got ruined.

i'll try to work on the terrain a bit more...besides i made this map a long time ago and i've improved quite a bit since then... by the way i'm preparing a new melee map right now a lot better than this one, so far...

 

[bounty hunter2]

Since I don't have time to create a melee map review system, here is something quick I come up with: Review and rating to your map ->

1 - 10 points go to terrain
1 - 10 points go to balance
1 - 10 points go to originality
1 - 10 points go to lag
1 - 10 points go to gameplay/fun factor
1 - 10 points go to proper submission
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60 points max
50% required for a positive grade
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Terrain: 4 points
In parts it looked fine, but it wasn't that good. You need to remove the entire island blizzard clifing and height the terrain

Balance: 2 points
One had the gold mine, other had the fountain? That is way to imbalanced, drops are too.

Originality: 4 points
Interesting lake in the middle, but still it misses the something special.

Lag: 10 points
No lag, fast loading time.

Gameplay/Fun factor: 2 points
When its imbalanced like that there is not much fun at all. One person has the upper hand. The drops make it less fun too.

Proper submission: 6 points
Include more info and images.
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28/60
46%
1/5: Reject
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You need a lot of fixes, most mentioned above to get this approved. Hope you manage to fix it.

Good luck, bounty hunter2

 

[Eccho]

As my part of being a mini-mod, me and bounty tested this map.

The results... here it goes.

Terrain: It is ok, at some lesser places its better, at some places its way too flat and lacks variation, height, texture choice and such. The mixture of trees was, I dont know... special, as the map becomes Ashenvale/Sunken shore alike? And set the life of the gate to 0, as gates shoulnt be closed in a melee (I think).

Neutral buildings: Not good. The player on the right is closets to a fountain of healing, while the bot player has a Goblin Merchant? It should be equal for both the players. The same goes for the expansion gold mines. The bot player would easier get both gold mines without any problem.

Neutral creeps: No, no, no! Dont use omega 10 kinds of low lvl murlocs at the same spot, dont use 6 dragon whelps at one spot, and absolutely not the satyrs on the top of the map. Also, the dragons were constantly attacking the bot player everytime he built something, and I can say that range was over 2000 range. Use the "Creep Camp" option when setting the creeps properties, dont spread their group out like you have done, and fix the item drops. They are totally unbalanced. You shouldnt get 3 items and 4 tomes from a horde of murlocs at the same creep position.
The player on the right was not getting almost any items at all.
Also, creeps should be tried to be balanced for each player. It means that corresponding creeps at one place close to one player should match the creeps near the other player(s).

Start Locations: Looking in game it seems like the start locations are not equally close to the corresponding gold mine. But in the world editor it looks fine (so nvm maybe

So, over all, I can't accept this. It will give a 1/5 from me, because you really need to correct the issues before it can be approved.

~Eccho~

Note that I may not always respond back to a reviewed thread. If you wish so, send me a pm.