Terrainer In Progress

[Dragonson]

If you need a terrainer to buff up your map abit, call me.
I started doing terrains not long ago, and i've practiced alot ever since.
I specialise in:
-Dungeons
-Forests (Elven/Swamplike mostly.)
-Evilifying Terrain (Making it look like, Really evil.)
-Small Cities or Villages
-Holyfying Terrain (Making it look angelic, or something.

Shrine of Sargeras

Swamp

Sacred Grove

Sacred Grove v0.2

Line:
Currently Working on:
Terrain for SpoonTooBig's ORGP (Finished for now.)
Adikutz's City Terrain.
In Line:
Acorn511's Rise of Civilisation Terrain.
Frunck's Minor ORPG terrain.

 

[Dragonson]

First terrain screenie added! more to come!

 

[DanThanh]

I like your screenie.
I am going to make a Hero defense map, can you make me the terrain of an elven village with the Sacred Grove in the center?

 

[Adiktuz]

up to what map size do you terrain?

 

[Dragonson]

@DanThanh
Sure! i can make you a elven village ^^

@Adikutz
Any. the question is how long it takes

Also, here's a link to My Other Terrains (Only two you haven't seen though. Posting in this thread soon.)

 

[Titanhex]

Not bad. I could use the help of a terrainer, so your timing is impeccable.

I'm remaking the 11th Vampire, as the only currently working version is nowhere near as good as it's predecessors, and it's been needing a facelift for a while. I absolutely love this map, and would like to see it done for todays standards, so I've decided to take it up. (It's still RoC compatible :\)

The only thing is, I've not yet practiced terraining. Do you think you could recreate the terrain for me? You'll have a template to work with, so you won't need to sit and think of what you're going to be doing. Rather you'll be able to practice and hone your skills. There will be additions, so there will be creative freedom in those areas.

It's 224x224. The areas are small villages, a pure and holy Castle that guards the city, vampiric layers, occult worshiping places, prisons for the damned, stuff like that. It's mainly a big city though, with all these things located in various parts. I'm going to be adding interiors too.

It's a 2man project, and you'll be the other man. My part will be recreating and optomizing the triggers, making spells, blah blah blah. Full credit and everything. What do you think?

 

[DanThanh]

Thank you, i should give you some more information.
Tileset: Ashenvale
Size: About 94x94
Custom doodads: allowed
Gates: three

I think it's a simple job to you, right, i hope you will finish it soon. Thank you !

 

[Adiktuz]

what if for example a 128x128 human city, the whole 128x128 must not be used up because I would want buildings that be entered(teleporting the unit to another place when you go near the door because making an enterable building via the doodads in the UTM would require custom camera), how long will it take?

BTW, I'm just asking, I'm not really requesting for it but if you would want to work on it PM me.

 

[Dragonson]

@Titanhex
It's a vampirism map?
Well whatever, i love terraining whatever map it is ^^
If the base terrain is already created, it should be a easy go to make it look cool.
If you have a specefic template for the base terrain, it will take a litle more time, but still it will be easy to look cool
Send me the map and let me have a look at it, and i shall improve it where i can.

@DT (if it's okay call you that?)
So you just want me to send you this little map? You don't want me to terrain it into a larger one? But nontheless, a map with the description you give me should be easy and swift ^^ But... does the grove have to fill up all of the space? For that might take some time (Simply to make up stuff to fill out the blank space

@Adikutz
I prefer to discuss my terrains in this thread, but a city? Should be no problem Remember though, it might take a little more time than the other terrains i am working ith, since cities is something i have not practiced before, but i beleive i can make it work.
For the enterable buildings: Do you also want me to make the rooms wich the player teleports to? (And it's not EVERY building in the city that is enterable right?


OH AND!
Please note that when i terrain i take a screenshot of it and place it in my My Terrains album. If you do not want this, or do not want me to put the screenshot there before the map is released or something, tell me. I would just really like to be able to see all the diffient terrains i've made in one place

 

[Titanhex]

Alright, I've attached the map. But no, it's not a vampirism map. It's a 5v5v1 competitive RPG map. Not ORPG, there's no save load and max level is 25.

It's tough to explain, but taking a look at it should give you an idea. If you want I can discuss it's layout so you know what you're working with. To save from clustering your thread I'll PM you.

The terrain isn't terrible. This map was made during RoC times and hasn't changed. You'll see that. Putting it closer to today's standards is what I'm going for. Really give it some feeling and oompf, use the techniques in the terraining tutorials. You're allowed to use whatever imports you want, infact I encourage it.

You're also free to add and use new tilesets to help you out. You'll notice I've allocated some extra space for additions to the map too, which I have planned out and can tell you what I need. There you'll be able to work from scratch.

 

[Dragonson]

Taking a look...

 

[DanThanh]

Yeah, just a small project but i need a good terrain for my map...of course you can increase map size or something you feel good and fit.
The Grove in your screenie is good, i want one like that !

 

[Dragonson]

'kay

 

[Dragonson]

Do remember people!
I do not use ALL of my time on terraining. I am also a active player of WoW, and i just hit 80 (after like... playing for 5 years? Whoah i have way too many things i do...).
But i am fast at terraining and i DO use alot of time on it. (Alot cheaper than using a whole room of my house to set up a toy landscape ^^)

Right now i am working on Improving the terrain of TitanHex's vampire map, but since the Grove DT needs will be SILENT AND SWIFT AS THE OWL(!), i might do that before i finish the vampire terrain since that will take alot of time.

Happy Mapmaking People!

 

[Adiktuz]

okay. yeah not every building would be enterable, maybe an inn, shops(weapon,armor,potions: can also be combined into just one area), a forge then maybe a castle/ king's room then maybe put some more "free" space in case I would add more... well, just work on it if you get motivated. Good luck with your terraining!

 

[Dragonson]

Thanks
Also: I will now make a terraining list! Two secs...

Edit:
Okay! You can now check the buttom of the first post for Terraining Situation.
I will be working on two terrains at all times, so when i'm finished with either the vampire terrain or the ORPG terrain, Adikutz terrain will move in on "Being Worked On"

 

[Dragonson]

Allright DT! It took about 10 minutes to make, so here is....
SACRED GROVE v0.2! Enjoy
(If something is wrong, tell me. I can fix it ^^)

 

[Acorn511]

Hello. If you have time I would really appreciate some terraining help for my map, Rise of Civilizations. I need some good nature (village/felwood tilesets) terraining. I completed scrapped the old terrain and remade it today. It's kind of bland right now and I could really use some help if you have the time.

Send me a PM if ur willing to work on my map. I'll send you my most updated version.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/rise-civilizations-v-1-39-a-90397/

 

[Dragonson]

Well acorn, i prefer keeping it in this thread, so i will just say it now:
Ofcourse i will help you The thing is just that i have other people that wants help too. But i will put you in the line okay?

(Line can be seen at the buttom of the first post.)

 

[Acorn511]

Well acorn, i prefer keeping it in this thread, so i will just say it now:
Ofcourse i will help you The thing is just that i have other people that wants help too. But i will put you in the line okay?

(Line can be seen at the buttom of the first post.)

Yup, I realize there's a line. That's why I need a pm so I can send you the latest copy of my map when ur ready =D

Thank you!

 

[Dragonson]

NP I'l Pm you when i'm redy then.

 

[Dragonson]

Okay people: One thing.
I am currently NOT GOOD at interiors.
This might change, but currently its at a very low level.

 

[Titanhex]

One of the best ways to get better at terrains is look at some really good ones. I know if you play Gaia ORPG, you'll find the terrainer has a knack for interiors.

From what I can see about interior, they have a much greater attention to detail. There's a sort of clutter about them, y'know? I think the big issue with indoor terraining though is that WC3 by default does not have much support for them. Instead you have to find and use imports.

That's something that comes with practicing indoor terrain and using UTM to find the multitude of imports to use to terrain indoors. My suggestion to improving your ability to do indoor terrain the fastest is using UTM and creating a ton of indoor scenarios. Then when you want to do your own maps with indoor terrain, you'll know what imports are available.

You of course don't have time for that now, but when you begin to terrain more for yourself and for practice this isn't a bad idea to turn to.

 

[Dragonson]

Well... i just imported a bed
The indoor terraining is going pretty well, but some of the various things on your list that i've made did not turn out just the way i wanted them. Anyways, Status:
-I've fixed up some of the places in the city that just looked TOO bare (though the map in general has alot of good terrain.
-I've made a underground Prison that clearly says "OMG! Something bad broke out of this place!"
-I've Made a crypt that looks normal exept for the enormous load of green mist flying around.
-I've made a "throne room" for the Queen and King of the damned.
-I've made a typical Cave-Of-Bad-Stuff for the Shaman.
-I've done a version of the queens bedchamber that i can withstand looking at.

But that's all, generally.
Also i would really like to play your map when it comes out
And yah, it should be finished tomorrow if i don't have too many interruptions.
Take a look at my work so far.

 

[Titanhex]

I'll be doing some beta tests in due time to get balancing done and bugs out. It'd be great to have you try it out when I do those.

And don't worry, take your time. The spells take a bit, since I have to run some debugging on a few.

EDIT:
I'll test to see if the green mist is lag-free in game. Typically it is, but I'll be double certain. Otherwise it all looks good.

But a quick note, something bad hasn't broken out of the prison just yet. It still resides within. It's the prison of the original "11th Vampire" as well as other high class prisoners.

 

[Dragonson]

OKay, i'l fix the prison. But then i looks kinda bare
Thanks for the feedback

 

[Titanhex]

If you want to use some extra space in the prison you can always give the original 11th Vampire a larger confinement area than the others, with more barriers of magical protection.

 

[Dragonson]

The delay happened.
I had to go get a X-Ray scan on my lungs and get my blood sampled.
Sorry

 

[Titanhex]

It's fine. Hope your tests come back negative and you're alright.

Take your time. Coding spells, even in JASS, takes a long time. I spend an entire morning just to churn out 3 bugless spells :\ I have to go through GUI codes and optimize them after I finish the spells, then add new quests and warp points, as well as boost some of the features.

It'll be a week or two before I get to a beta. I won't even need the terrain til I finish the triggers. But if you still wish to help me I could take the map when you're finished, browse through a few things on it, and suggest some terrain changes to better suit it. There's also a few other non-terrain tasks too that could easily be done by someone else, like importing.

But you're a terrainer with a big plate, and I don't expect you to become a project member completely, so no worries. You've already done a big thing just with the terrain

 

[Levdragon]

Hm are you interested in making a warcraft terrain for me ? If your interested I'll give you the details and all the info needed.

 

[Dragonson]

Well levdragon, as i've said before: i have a list of requests that need to be finished atm, and it's going pretty slow due to my having less time on my computer than normal (wich is due to me having a strange illness that is currently being looked at by some science dudes.)

Status Report:
I had some problems with TitanHex's map, but they're fixed and the terrain is almost done.
Theese problems were caused by JNGP, wich i downloaded for SpoonTooBig's ORPG map.
Things are going uphill atm, and my terraining will be back to normal soon. (Hopefully...)

 

[Titanhex]

JNGP is the king of WE editors. However, two pieces of it are outdated:

TESH
JASSHelper

If you need to know how to update them so they work properly, I can tell you. Otherwise hope all goes well for you

 

[Dragonson]

Thanks TH

 

[Frunck]

Would you be interested in terraining on my orpg? I really just need a small human village and an evil looking village + abit of terrain outside of it. If so put me in line

 

[Dragonson]

I'm interested in all kinds of terrains
Pratice is practice.

Status Report:
I got JNPG to work fully!
The terraining will now slowly acellerate until it is a original speed.
The vampire terrain is 80% finished.

 

[Frunck]

Alright do you want the map now or later when it's my turn?

 

[diabloj]

Hey I need some terraining help with my map, I have 3 large areas but since i can see that you have got alot of requests im gone ask you if you can take the smallest area, I was thinking about a dark forest.. The only bad thing is that im useing a custom lorderan summer tilset and the only special thing I have for a forest is dark grass :S, I do ofc have the preset Grass and Rock (Unbuildable)
Tilset: Custom Lorderan Summer
Size: Small Area (dont know in numbers)
If you want more info or the map send a msg
Diabloj

 

[Dragonson]

@Frunck
I prefer the map when it's your turn

@Diabloj
'kay!
I'l add you to the list.

 

[Levdragon]

nvm I found someone else to terrain thanks anyway

 

[Dragonson]

NP. Good luck with your map!

 

[Titanhex]

Looking forward to seeing the final terrain on the map

Meanwhile I'm about 50% done with the spells. It's a lot of work, and I'm always running into issues. However once I've finished spells, beta testing can begin.

 

[Dragonson]

Hmm... i'm having this strange problem with JNGP:
Everytime i save it says some of the jass isn't working, and starts this Jass helper progress that seems not to get anywhere. any idea of the cause?

 

[Titanhex]

Are you talking about the map you downloaded from my thread? If so, the map had that issue for a little bit until I fixed it. No clue why'd be doing that now though.

Otherwise you may have to be specific at where and why it's doing it, what map are you trying to save.

PS It should still save the terrain if that's a concern.

 

[Dragonson]

Nono! The thing is just that i might need to shut off the triggers while terraining. (or shut Jasshelper). Would that do any damage?

 

[Titanhex]

No, it shouldn't. I'm going to completely replace the triggers when I'm done anyways.

 

[Dragonson]

AH okay.
Anyways, i'm pretty much finished. I mainly need the mayor's manor and the holy vault thing.

 

[Frunck]

Could you send me a pm when it's my turn?

 

[Dragonson]

That's how it works

 

[Dragonson]

OKay Titanhex...
I am now setting your terrain status to Done.
Status Report:
Sinewy Lair of Spider Queen and Mayer Mansion missing, and castle interior didn't get that big. But my life has been really harsh on me
I might get back to you and do more terrain for you later, but right now i have to move on before i get stuck in a endless loop of non-creativity.
Hope you can use what i did get made. =/
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin_data/77m7t1/_files/VampireTerrain.w3x

Edit: work will start on Adikutz's terrain soonish.

 

[Adiktuz]

oh.. good luck! and thanks!