[Terrain] Discussion Table

[Felipe Gormadoc]

Hello guys, This topic aims resolve issues about the Terrain.
Then Lets Go.

Discussion 01/07

1- The names of those who will make the team of terrain 2- How will the terrain? 3- Who will do what? 4- What resources can we use?

Discussion 03/07

1- The fog is important for this project? 2- Cliffs or Raise? 3- Terrain Style HD or Cartton?

 

[Doomlord]

1/ MasterTrainer and you.
2/ AoS, medieval style.
3/ & 4/ Terrainers' stuffs x)

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

over which elements you want in terrain?
you would like something funny? style OMG WTF

and who will initiate the basis of the land?

 

[Doomlord]

I think we should make a decent, breathtaking terrain rather than a cartoonic one. Because a serious environment will contradict the comedic gameplay, creating an amplification effect.

What do you mean by "elements"?

The map's size is 128x128. Which tileset is good?

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

yes 128x128 seems a good size or 96x96 too.
the map will be well done, more what I wanted to know is which theme you wait for him?

 

[Doomlord]

Medieval. I am wondering about the tileset to pick. Felwood like DotA? Or maybe we can tread on new grounds with Dalaran or some other choices?

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

i like more felwood, one suggestion is Ashvalen.
but I need to know details of how you will want Terrain, pass various information please. this is the main, most important.

 

[Doomlord]

I think we should copy DotA's basic layout and then expand/modify it. Not sure really since I don't know how to terrain

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

calms, I will make the land fit the theme of the game.
then say me which will be the theme?

 

[Doomlord]

I said Medieval Fantasy. If you want tileset, either Ashenvale or Felwood.

In light of Angel's return, she will work on the terrain together with you.

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

ok, you was not specified.
then i can do it my way?

 

[Doomlord]

I suggest that you discuss that with Archange1

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

OK, please notify the others about this topic, to discuss these issues

 

[Doomlord]

They will automatically see it, don't worry

 

[Doomlord]

Bumping this

 

[Binsu]

Im gonna be the one giving the feedbacks and I will be the Assistant Terrainer.

 

[Doomlord]

Yar. Sounds cool.

 

[Doomlord]

Hey there. Could you guys possibly provide terrain screenshots after about a week (~July 10th)? Need it for the Map Development thread.

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

we are in 3 ok?
since it Hell Master will be "Support"
then How about I and Archange1 make the 2 sides of map

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

And please guys.
Pay Attention in this Topic, Here we are always posting important things related to the Terrain.

 

[morbent]

"1/ MasterTrainer and you.
2/ AoS, medieval style.
3/ & 4/ Terrainers' stuffs x)"

I think like Doomlord. But about 4, I'd suggest using some models like the ones from the Diablo 3 map make it dark and epic. Really dark and only light effects to lighten the area around you. We can make items that increase vision (light radius) and such. + it would make it kinda new and intriguing. I haven't seen such a type of map yet :\ + it hides all the stupid stuff where we failed (cuz darkness is awesome) and adds a cool.. really cool. feeling.

Now, this may not sound very related to the Terrain itself but, in my opinion light effects will determine our terrain type. I'm not sure about the placing, that's the terrainers job. But terrain type is important. I'd say something.. gothic. With huge buildings with cool gothic windows. dark. etc. etc.

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

morbent u says one thematic style gotic?
cathedrals, cemeteries, stone houses, plantations pumpkin and iron fence with spear in top? am i right?

 

[Doomlord]

We are going for a comedic map, let's there be sunshine and singing birds. I don't prefer a dark, gothic style.

 

[morbent]

wut? we're going for a comedic map? Oh.. I must have missed that -.-

didn't you say once that you'd prefer it to be something serious, opposing the name Cheese Project? Hmm.. so it's really gonna be a. cheese project ? oh well. K. I still can't find the theme from so many posts here :\

 

[Doomlord]

This is a comedic map from the start. Oh and that serious part only applies to some aspects to balance out the comedic elements.

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

be something like dancing trees, happy sun and smile faces?
(yes, it was funny to me '-')

 

[Doomlord]

You know what? Let's just go with DotA's layout. Then we add funny elements to it =))

Can you do it?

 

[morbent]

like a Courier Dota map. Hmm
K. Add funny elements, but where will you find funny models :?

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

I will make zero, is better.
then i can start?

i make one side and archange1 make the other side and Hell Master complete with some details, this good?

 

[Doomlord]

Please start now. Thank you very much

You should do the whole layout. Archange1 is good with props, she will do her job once you are done

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

Update, new subjects

Discussion 03/07

1- The fog is important for this project? 2- Cliffs or Raise? 3- Terrain Style HD or Cartton?

 

[Doomlord]

1/ Yes. It is an AoS after all.

2/ Cliff I guess but let the terrainers answer this

3/ I prefer HD. As I said we only use funny elements. Besides, nothing pleases the eyes more than a beautiful terraio

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

differences enter Cliffs and Raise.

Raise -> are softer and beautiful, but dont create Fog

Cliff -> are easiest to work and create fog, but is ugly =/

 

[Doomlord]

Hmm. Let the other terrainers answer this I guess. You can just leave them be for now

 

[Binsu]

To answer the questions:

1 - MasterTrainer, you, and Archange1 I think
2 - I cant quite understand this question but I think you mean how should be the terrain? To answer that, it should be quite focused to Medieval and also not cartoonish.
3 - There are many. SO we cannot plan that further because everything is a possibility that we can use a specific resource.

Discussion 03/07
1 - Yes, I do think so because it gives rather much more feeling into the atmosphere and it makes it more kind of realistic. Not only that but weathers might be cool also.
2 - Better if Raise. No grudges about cliffs but they just look ugly when used improper while in Raise, no risks.
3 - HD of course. Cartoonish just sounds too bad and if you combine cartoonish terrain with humorous apsects, it quite makes a good mix but remember Medieval. Cartoonish will crush our plan of terrain being Medieval.

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

then in 2 of 03/07 is Cliff?

 

[edo494]

Raise is good, but you will see over the edges, and that may not be good, for instance DOTA is made with Cliff, because you cant see over the edges of cliffs, with raise you cant have that unless you make the sight blockers locally but that may cause desync

 

[Faith]

we'll see(;

you do NOT want to use natural cliffs on an AoS.
stick with blizzard cliffs otherwise we're going to have some trouble with pathing and line of sight.

for things like ramps and stuff, i have a secret to making it look less abrupt.

you can of course overrule my suggestions but you have been warned. ^_^

 

[Doomlord]

Well I guess we should go with Cliff then. An AoS values sight the most.

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

Yes i go use cliff,
someone needs to make more blocks for some objects that will be putting.

 

[Doomlord]

Huh?

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

Discussion 05/07

1- what you like about the terrain so far? 2- and what they do not like? 3- you are understanding what is being done? 4- what do you think we can improve? 5- what you expected to see?

I'm open to answer questions

 

[Faith]

you can't answer these questions without seeing the terrain.
nevermind i see them!
looks like you're doing my job for me.. oh well. ;p

do i still get paid?
nobody told me we were working on it yet. '

 

[Occult Glider]

Felipe, it's not the end of the world, but it just sometimes annoys me when your grammar messes up...

Or then I'm just being trolled Mr. Bean style.

 

[Doomlord]

What is the gate for? I felt the tileset to be rather dark. Could we use the Ashenvale tileset instead?

 

[Felipe Gormadoc]

we are using Ashvalen, and the gate is only decoration one detail, more nothing.
this evil base, because is dark.

@Occult glider
my friend, i'm live in south of american i dont speak english ok, i'm striving here.

 

[Doomlord]

I see. Very nice You have a good idea

 

[Faith]

I'll just stick with BBcodes i guess.
let me know if you have questions..

 

[Occult Glider]

my friend, i'm live in south of american i dont speak english ok, i'm striving here.

I'm not a native English speaker either, but *ahem*... Well, maybe it's just better to drop this subject.

 

[Doomlord]

Drop that guys. What matters most is whether the message gets through