Tap Tap Challenge v1.04a

[Moderator]

19:06, 27th May 2010
ap0calypse: Approved

 

[Falzelo]

I can't test the 2 players mode, since I have only 1 computer. Any glitch or bug, just tell me and I will fix them as soon as I can.

 

[Cweener]

hmm, will download and test later...am so tired, but two things,
1)is tap tap copyrighted? if so, this could be bad
2)try making the description better with some of these

 

[Falzelo]

Thanks for your BB codes. I will use them in my next update

EDIT: Updated. Now people please download my map and leave me some comments.

 

[Hawk]

Now the map is much better with some effects, the terrain is nice from the other version.I like the thing that you added the letters [W] [E] [R] on top of the circles, the description is nice but one thing you need to add some screenshots.I saw that you add credits. 4/5 Vote for Approval.

- Remove the other version or you will get - rep.

 

[Zonex]

Nice idea and works, a bit easy tho.

 

[aaron]

downloading later, will see how it goes.

 

[Falzelo]

Anyone here tested the 1v1 mode? I'm afraid that it doesn't work well...

Edit: The original "Tap Tap" has been deleted

 

[Blacuchops]

lol 1 vs 1 is really bugged =.= how do u expect to fight 1x1 with the same field.... and what do you mean by the original tap tap has been deleted your gonna quit on this ?

 

[Falzelo]

Err... there was an other version of Tap Tap on this site, but I saw that it became useless when this version was released (Thought the old version was different from this one)

 

[Cweener]

well, I'm not going to review it like i would normally, but i will give what i like, dislike, and recommend.

[+]I like the terrain, it's not boring like i thought it'd be.
[+]I liked the custom units(notes)

[~]Triggering is GUI :/, but it's leakless, so it's okay.

[-]I did not like sometimes i press the button but it doesn't register in time. probably due to slow GUI.
[-]no AI, but i suppose AI would be exceedingly hard to do in this case (but still possible )

Recommendation:
an option to choose between keys. because, the "WER" keys, are shifted far to the left(which leaves your left hand the only one able to comfortably play), maybe have a dialog pop up for each player asking if they would like an option like the "IOP" keys (would require a different set of abilities -_- but would be good for certain people (like me))

Rating: 3.8/5
Voting for: Approval

Note:
Good job and well executed

 

[Falzelo]

Thanks for your review. In my 1 player Tap Tap version I made the "Right hand" and "Left hand" options, but I thought it would be troublesome if I put them in 2 players version

Edit [update]: I removes the problem in restarting. Now it works well
Edit [update 2]: Now 3 keys are [I], [O] and [P]. this change helps you to be more convenient in playing since you can use your left hand or right hand (Or both) instead of only using left hand

 

[Golden-Drake]

the insane is a little easy for an insane difault - try makking it faster and with a little space between them - and if its possible try to hear the music and make the notes follow the music..

 

[Falzelo]

okay I made the Insane mode faster (I don't know how fast it should be to satisfy people)

 

[Coaster_Man]

Ok let's see...I downloaded your map yesterday and tested it out...
#1 thing i noticed: music was off timing to the notes. Please fix that! That is a huge problem...
Also if you could make it so that there is some sort of effect so that i can see if i hit the note that would be cool. And some some sound/color effects when you get a combo
^just to make it more exciting you know

[2/5] Not really fun/exciting but hey, maybe it's just not my style of game.

 

[Cweener]

music was off timing to the notes

you do realize, that it would be next to impossible to make the notes on timing...right?

I've seen a lot of thing done that are hard but that would be just impossible. you would have to have a trigger for every note.so even for easy mode, thats oh...probably 500+ triggers...

yeah, I'm not seeing that happening.

 

[Falzelo]

I've seen a lot of thing done that are hard but that would be just impossible. you would have to have a trigger for every note.so even for easy mode, thats oh...probably 500+ triggers...

Yo, you understand why I can't do that. Further more, making notes matching the song will make this game less repetitive... (Since the order of notes spawning is never changed and you will get bored fast)

And... I thought about making AI... Seems impossible (or it will have 100% accuracy... player can never beat AI in that case)

 

[Cweener]

nah, just do if (for example)
easy = random integer between 1 and 5 is 5 then make the AI get it correct
medium = 1 in 4 and so on...

it would be hard yeah. but i think you could do it

 

[ZXavier88Z]

james congratulations you made your promise

 

[Falzelo]

Then it will be really easy to beat AI... I don't like it...

 

[Cweener]

no, because you could make it like a 70% chance and stuff on easy, and just harder as it goes like insane should be 95%. (which would just be if random integer between 1-100 is less than or equal to 95)

 

[Falzelo]

however, I think that AI is senseless in such map... I even made it 1v1 not and not versus a computer...

 

[Cweener]

fair enough.

 

[-Kobas-]

Well Ai is easy to create for this map...

Triggers Tap 1 and Tap 2 don't use variable, replace point in region with variable
Example:

• Set Yellow_Circle = (Position of Yellow Circle 0005 <gen>)

Yellow_Circle need to replace

• Unit - Cause Rocker 0009 <gen> to damage circular area after 0.00 seconds of radius 100.00 at (Position of Yellow Circle 0005 <gen>), dealing 100.00 damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal

Position of Yellow Circle 0005 <gen>

 

[Falzelo]

K thanks I will go and fix it now

[Edit 1]: Fixed. Thanks for finding such mistake for me
_{+ rep}
[Edit 2]: Map updated. I changed the whole terrain but nothing about the game play (except the letters added near the circles)

 

[-Kobas-]

Well about Ai it can be done like this!
AI Setup
If computer player difficulty is set to easy then -> AI_TmpReal1 = 100
If computer player difficulty is set to normal then -> AI_TmpReal1 = 80
If computer player difficulty is set to insane then -> AI_TmpReal1 = 60

AI Cast Spell
Unit Enters Region yellow/red/blue

AI_TmpReal2 = Random number between 0 and AI_TmpReal1
if AI_TmpReal2 less or equal to 50 then
order unit to cast spell (just like when player click)

Also you mast care about region so if is yellow we cast another spell then for red region!
you can see that easy has 50% chance to miss, normal less etc...
I hope you can understand (btw it can be done on many other ways I just wanted to give you some tips)

 

[Cweener]

he knows hat, he just doesn't want to -Kobas- i think he made that clear

 

[-Kobas-]

Well I just think that all that about AI scare him
So I just wanted to help (it is really simple at least for this map)

 

[Falzelo]

How's about the new terrain? I should use the old one (2 players on 1 line) or use new terrain like the current one?

 

[coolcool246]

my brother is a total MASTER at tap tap. he spends his life on it and he is soo good at it he can like....fc almost all of the songs on extreme, i bet he would find this ausome

 

[LordAragorn]

After choosing the mode make a bit more time to get in, it starts very soon so i got flushed for the first seconds.
Overall not my style of map but 3,5/5 (going to vote 4^^)

 

[Tiche3]

Fun 5/5 and vote for approval.

 

[Dr. House]

Fianlly a som kinda of DDR +rep man nice job

 

[Falzelo]

Finally the v1.02 was released! Let's check the changelog to know what's new

 

[ap0calypse]

you do realize, that it would be next to impossible to make the notes on timing...right?

I've seen a lot of thing done that are hard but that would be just impossible. you would have to have a trigger for every note.so even for easy mode, thats oh...probably 500+ triggers...

yeah, I'm not seeing that happening.

Excuse me? That's what I'm doing right now.
My Guitar-map is nearing completion stage and yes: the notes are based on the songs (1 short demo-song complete, another - longer - one in progress).
I need... umm... 2 triggers for every song (max of about 8000 notes per song), though I could do it with 1 trigger (I made it 2 so others can easily make their own song as well).

It's not impossible.
Never say something is impossible, because sooner or later some guy does it anyway.


I have approved the map for now.
This is due to the positive comments.
I still don't really like it, but yeah... the map has improved a lot since the first version.

 

[Cweener]

^^ap0c,
i would love to see those two triggers

 

[duke-zip]

i have not played this map yet, and i am not complaining about it or anything. But in response to one of those comments, to match a song and the notes, couldn't you just start the song and game at a certain point, and then just program a "Wave" and start them at a certain point? 2 triggers ^_^. I am no map maker so i am probably wrong... anyway gonna try this out!!

 

[-Kobas-]

Well Falzelo asked me to check map again so here it is:

Ok let see... Tap Tap Challenge v1.02

Things that I like:

1st - Map Description
2nd - Multiboard
3th - Idea
4th - Very unique
5th - Fun to play

Things that I don't like:

1st - Memory leaks

• Floating Text
  • Events
    • Time - Elapsed game time is 0.10 seconds
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Floating Text - Create floating text that reads I at (Center of Region 010 <gen>) with Z offset 0.00, using font size 16.00, color (100.00%, 80.00%, 0.00%), and 0.00% transparency
    • Floating Text - Create floating text that reads O at (Center of Region 011 <gen>) with Z offset 0.00, using font size 16.00, color (0.00%, 0.00%, 100.00%), and 0.00% transparency
    • Floating Text - Create floating text that reads P at (Center of Region 012 <gen>) with Z offset 0.00, using font size 16.00, color (100.00%, 0.00%, 0.00%), and 0.00% transparency
    • Floating Text - Create floating text that reads I at (Center of Region 013 <gen>) with Z offset 0.00, using font size 16.00, color (100.00%, 80.00%, 0.00%), and 0.00% transparency
    • Floating Text - Create floating text that reads O at (Center of Region 014 <gen>) with Z offset 0.00, using font size 16.00, color (0.00%, 0.00%, 100.00%), and 0.00% transparency
    • Floating Text - Create floating text that reads P at (Center of Region 015 <gen>) with Z offset 0.00, using font size 16.00, color (100.00%, 0.00%, 0.00%), and 0.00% transparency

2nd - Well like ap0 said, notes are spawned randomly
3th - Terrain look bad
4th - No hints
5th - No events like reverse buttons, slow motion, destroy all notes, double bounty etc etc
6th - Notes move on ground not above
7th - Triggers are bad (for example you can replace 8 spawn triggers with only 1)

Word or 2 to Author:

*Well this is wc3 game not phone one! Add moooooooore! Why not to create 4 or 8 lanes for both hands at same time -> [A] [S] [D] [F] and [H] [J] [K] [L] insane isn't it!
*Add events/pickups or whatever, create notes that will give extra points, slow wave or destroy all notes in one column etc etc
*Clean leaks pls
*Triggers are good but they can be better, try to use variables more
*Change fog each 0.1 sec add disco effect
*Change terrain a little more (burned buildings and poison grrrrr)
*Change notes look, player can write for example: -seal lightning balls will be changed into seals ^^ etc etc

There are many many ideas, but this is your map, above is my opinion!
I will give you 2/5 because map must be more upgraded! We don't want to see you become lazy

2/5

 

[Falzelo]

What to say now... James Tomas is busy with another project (Visiting Map Development and you can see something there)
Okay I will send these words to James. Thanks for reviewing my map again and wait for author's update

[edit] And now some word from the author:

Hi people! At last v1.03 of my Tap Tap has been released. Hope you all have fun with this new version!
I this update, there are many major changes, and there may be dozens of bug too. Hope that people can help me to find them to better my map.
Finally, thanks -Kobas- for giving me some important idea!
Any word you want to send to author, just tell Falzelo. I'm looking forward seeing good responses soon.

[edit 2] Please leave some comments about the map

 

[Dr. House]

Just played it reminded me of guitar hero wish it whas more like Dance Dance revolution but it isnt bad btw here is my score xD on medium

 

[Falzelo]

LOL I've said that I only knew about GH after completing this map X(
DDR? Nah I'm not thinking about making such map; but you gave me the idea about a "Hitting the moles" map Wait for it
And OMG thanks for the screenshot

 

[Assassins-Creed]

Excuse me? That's what I'm doing right now.
My Guitar-map is nearing completion stage and yes: the notes are based on the songs (1 short demo-song complete, another - longer - one in progress).
I need... umm... 2 triggers for every song (max of about 8000 notes per song), though I could do it with 1 trigger (I made it 2 so others can easily make their own song as well).

It's not impossible.
Never say something is impossible, because sooner or later some guy does it anyway.


I have approved the map for now.
This is due to the positive comments.
I still don't really like it, but yeah... the map has improved a lot since the first version.

Thoughs 2 triggers must lag like hell when you open them

 

[ap0calypse]

Thoughs 2 triggers must lag like hell when you open them

For me, they don't (one is a rather short trigger, the other is longer, but only contains variable setups).

And please stay on-topic, this isn't about my map.

 

[Assassins-Creed]

And please stay on-topic, this isn't about my map.

I knew you were going to say that.


Anyways,the map is good and fun to play the only thing I request is good music.