[Trigger] still cant fix music leak?!

[mclericp]

I am ready to launch my campaigns, but there is only 1 thing left. My map tends to lag whenever a new music is played, and i tried various ways people say to try to stop it. I tried clearing the music list, setting the music as a sound varable and delete it etc. However, it still lags whenever a new music is played. Can any1 give a solution?

 

[Mallaboro]

• Actions -
  • Play Music
  • Destroy last played sound

Er, I think I read that in an anti-leak tutorial once, but whether it works or not is beyond me.

Either way, best of luck. 22 maps is... quite phonominal.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Its singleplayer so it should not lag as there is no network traffic involved (unless your CPU is so crap it can not keep comunications up with the game server part of it).

This has nothing to do with leaks, it is caused by the game having to load the music from disc which is a lot slower than RAM. The solution is to preload the music files into the game (recomended) or use a solid state disc to play WC3 from (stupid solution).

 

[Maker]

The solution is to preload the music files into the game (recomended) or use a solid state disc to play WC3 from (stupid solution).

I don't feel very stupid while enjoying the benefits of fast saving/loading times

 

[Dr Super Good]

I meant stupid as it is unreasonable to expect everyone to use solid state discs. Not that those who do are stupid. They are just too expensive to adopt widly.

 

[mclericp]

thanks guys. I will try it out. ANyway the 22 map campaign rpg aint working out really well, so i m creating a new one.

 

[Dr Super Good]

So you finished all 22 maps and decided to start new? Lol... (obviously this is not the case).

You should consider looking into Starcraft II. Some of the maps that are emerging are amazing.

 

[mclericp]

So you finished all 22 maps and decided to start new? Lol... (obviously this is not the case).

You should consider looking into Starcraft II. Some of the maps that are emerging are amazing.

i had trouble with the 22 map one, so i kinda quitted. And yea, starcraft. Do i need sc2 to create sc maps?

 

[D4RK_G4ND4LF]

I meant stupid as it is unreasonable to expect everyone to use solid state discs. Not that those who do are stupid. They are just too expensive to adopt widly.

use a cheap usb flash drive instead

 

[Bribe]

MB Air, standard with SSD. Not so bad on price with the cheap model.

 

[Dr Super Good]

use a cheap usb flash drive instead

Too bad USB interfaces are like sending an old man to China back in the middle ages... Using a mechanical hard disc is faster due to better interface bandwidth. You can not compare USB to SATA as far as bandwidth goes, its like comparing a pram to a formula 1 car.

Solid state discs are not a viable solution for map playability. You can not force people to buy them for a map as they are far too expensive.

 

[sentrywiz]

Most people turn off sounds & music in wc3. I tend to only leave Sounds on

Anyways I had the same problem with you. Music list won't work unless you wanna spend days deleting or moving warcraft music tracks, so that when its empty you can add your own, add a random track from music list and enjoy.

Oh yeah, and it creates lag. Talk about endless possibilities :X

 

[D4RK_G4ND4LF]

This has nothing to do with leaks, it is caused by the game having to load the music from disc which is a lot slower than RAM. The solution is to preload the music files into the game or use a solid state disc to play WC3 from.

someone burn this bot
and the advertising links are dead anyway

Too bad USB interfaces are like sending an old man to China back in the middle ages... Using a mechanical hard disc is faster due to better interface bandwidth. You can not compare USB to SATA as far as bandwidth goes, its like comparing a pram to a formula 1 car.

Solid state discs are not a viable solution for map playability. You can not force people to buy them for a map as they are far too expensive.

it's not like you can load billions of GB of music out of a map....
but I will test it later and see which one is faster

edit:
does not make a noticeable difference

and I found out a few other funny things:
-loading from thumb drives is faster
-saving is slower
-sound variables created with the sound editor are preloaded automatically

 

[Dr Super Good]

-loading from thumb drives is faster

You mean a USB memory stick was faster? There must be more too it than you think. Like maybe the normal drive is not of good quality or the way the OS cached the data.

-saving is slower

Too be expected, epsecially with cheap flashdrives. They are notorious for having slowing write speeds (when writing huge blocks of data).

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sound variables created with the sound editor are preloaded automatically

Yes but proper mapers never use that.

Is the music MP3 by any chance? It may be because of the decompression algerthim.

 

[D4RK_G4ND4LF]

Is the music MP3 by any chance? It may be because of the decompression algerthim.

tried with wav now and it does not make a difference either
I also copied the whole wc3 folder to flash drive and started from there because I thought that wc3 created a temp map file if I start the map using the editor (which it most likely does) but it still does not make a significant difference

preload and probably ssd's are the only way to prevent lag when playing something for the first time

 

[mclericp]

Guys i had fixed it. I did it randomly lol, i just put stop sound, destroy sound, stop music, clear music list, wait 0.5sec, and then play music. It didnt gave me any lag. So i guess this thread is closed?

 

[Dr Super Good]

I think destroying sounds leaks (does not destroy them properly), or atleast it was rhumored to at some stage.

 

[mclericp]

I think destroying sounds leaks (does not destroy them properly), or atleast it was rhumored to at some stage.

i dont know, i just randomly put any sound triggers i can see, and amazingly it didnt lag when a music is changed. Strange huh?