Standardised Approval system?

[M4stah]

What do you guys think of a standardises approval system?
The map section has a lot of pending maps and other sections have some. A standard system would speed up the progess and make sure working and good maps appear in the section not too long after posting, regardless the maker.
My advise is:
Make a default system that discusses things like
1: Does the map contain severe or many small bugs?
2: Does the gameplay/balancing work?
3: What is the overall appearance?

Members can give a map a rating and further advice. For me a approved map is (nearly) free of bugs and has good and working gameplay.

The pros and cons

+Approving/rejecting is speeded up and made easier
+More moderators can be assigned to clean up sections with ease
+Map makers have a idea of what standard to reach

-Moderators personal opninion goes to the background
-Moderators still make the mark, how much change is this?
-Moderatora often completely test a map and give good critisism, can users do this?

If you reply new pros and cons ill add em to the list. I hope this will make an intresting discussion.

 

[Vegavak]

"Make a default system that discusses areas"?

What are you smoking?

 

[M4stah]

I edited it. Could you give an opinion instead of such a small thing?

 

[Linaze]

Just no, because this would drastically reduce the quality of approved "stuff".
We got a new map moderator, let's wait and see what happens before sinking as low as an almost automated system.

 

[Zelda.Alex]

The Cons outweigh the Pros.
Not all maps will be properly tested and quality will be lowered much as Linaze said.

Also M4stah if you want to suggest things about map section then next time do so in the thread " Map Section – What would you improve?".
Not necessary but there it can be discussed better.

 

[Anachron]

What about an approval system now, which checks every x downloads if the map is able to be approved? You can select a score for everyhting then, like Bugs 1-5, Gameplay 1-5, and if it has reached about 33% it might become approved.

WHat do you think??

 

[M4stah]

About people saying ''It lowers the quality''

The system has not been made so you can only predict. If the system says
''Must have a avarage rating over 2.50'' and the rules are really tight it can't really lower the quality

 

[Anachron]

They mean the users do not put such attention in detail as mods do. Moderators look carefully if each condition is met, while most of the users only check a few of the points a map needs to have to become approved.

 

[M4stah]

True. but this is a system for moderators, and it makes moderation faster and easier. Becuase of this we can recruit more moderators, which ofcourse must be skilled map-makers themselves.

 

[Anachron]

Well but that would totally disagree to the whole conception of a standartisied approval system. Anyway, I like my idea most. =)

 

[M4stah]

Well but that would totally disagree to the whole conception of a standartisied approval system. Anyway, I like my idea most. =)

Huh? Its just like a table for moderators where they add a mark for each point. Users shouldn't be able to decide over approval, because of the feared noobs. They come with thousands and have fearsome rating like 100000000/5 for a crappy melee map

 

[LiOneSS]

We already gave a standardized punishment system and it's failing big time. What are you trying to do, turn moderators into robots?

 

[M4stah]

Im trying to make map moderation easier to clean the section. all these good arguments have made me realise thath the downside are greater than the good sides. But still, a discussion is always worth it

 

[Deathcom3s]

No...

Let's just stop it with this constant whining about the map section, it's gone on long enough, let's wait and see how things turn out. Bounty Hunter2 seems to be doing a good enough job, sure, it may be slow, but he's doing it the right way, let's just give him a chance. We want Quality, not Quantity in the map section, so therefore, i think Bounty Hunter2 is doing the right thing with the map section.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

We also need a standardised submission system. Maybe even a standardised review system, or a standardised posting system for the posts in the forum!

But we REALLY need a standardised page refreshing system.

 

[Elenai]

Standardized member registration, and maybe we won't have so many dumb maps, dumb rule breakers, and dumb nitwits to moderate in the first place.

 

[Zelda.Alex]

WILLTHEALMIGHTY
standardised page refreshing system----meaning?

Elenai
1...Nice Avatar
2...Standardized member registration----meaning?

 

[LiOneSS]

they were being sarcastic.

 

[Pyritie]

Besides, it's not like you can't do anything on approved maps that you can't on pending ones. You can still download/rate/comment on/give rep to/update/etc.

 

[CMarket]

Besides, it's not like you can't do anything on approved maps that you can't on pending ones. You can still download/rate/comment on/give rep to/update/etc.

It gets mentioned so many times and yet some people are still complaining about the pending maps.

Of course it would be better if they were all approved/rejected, but the difference between an approved map and a pending map is non-existent, especially to all people that are not the author of that map.

 

[M4stah]

You all have a point, and WILLTHEALMIGHTY, you are really sarcastic. Its just, the makers of pending maps want to see their map apporved(Or rejected, so they know!) I also understand some pending maps are maps waiting for approvement. Quality over Quantity is a very true thing, but if just could sort the quality out faster........(Im sure Bounty Hunter2 is doing fine, no critique there)

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

You all have a point, and WILLTHEALMIGHTY, you are really sarcastic. Its just, the makers of pending maps want to see their map apporved(Or rejected, so they know!) I also understand some pending maps are maps waiting for approvement. Quality over Quantity is a very true thing, but if just could sort the quality out faster........(Im sure Bounty Hunter2 is doing fine, no critique there)

Pyritie's already given an answer to this:

Besides, it's not like you can't do anything on approved maps that you can't on pending ones. You can still download/rate/comment on/give rep to/update/etc.

 

[Wallshadow_]

I blame Ralle and Hive Workshop!!!