Spearman/Pikeman Request

[Ghost765]

Could anyone create a spearman/pikeman with custom animations out of the footman? he would be holding a spear with two hands. Thrusting animations. please dont just take the felguard's animations, i despise them.

i also have in mind a footman spearman with his shield and a shorter spear. if his animations could be similar to skrab's low poly Undead Spartan (http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...758/?prev=search=undead%20spartan&d=list&r=20), that would be awesome.

 

[Ghost765]

Bump

 

[Mechanical Man]

Why don't just use other non-footman pikeman instead?

 

[Ghost765]

cause there are no other pikeman. ill fire off some othe reasons as well:
1. My race is niether blood elf or High elf (Referring to Gen.Franks/Elenai's models)
2. All the Pikemen on this site either use blademaster(!!) or Felguard animations. Felguard animations are kind messy since his arms reach his knees/shins, and they look kinda awkward for a human
3. I need a human pikeman.

Skrab's Undead Spartan's animations are practically perfect for my request, however he didnt respond to a vm if i asked him if he could transfer over his animations to a footman.

Your halberdier for Italian Wars was pretty good too, however his attack animation looked kinda funky cause the halberdier moved forward, but the spear didnt D:
he also doesnt really look like a wc3 footman either.

 

[Ghost765]

bump

 

[Taylor Mouse]

You got a artwork or something ?
T.

 

[Mechanical Man]

wait you mean the halberdier as a whole or when you transfer animations?

 

[Ghost765]

the halberdier as a hole. he just pushes his body, and not his arms.

@Taylor
Well, If you could, re-rigging either the footman or captain (both if possible) and animating it so the animations look somewhat like skrab's undead spartan. Im just referring to skrab's spartan since it has practically everything i want, a nice thursting motion, plus he's holding a shield, which i kinda need.
Defend animation would be nice too.

 

[skrab]

I don't think you will be able to transfer animations from my undead spartan warrior because there is no skeleton hierarchy and some bones are missing (Bone_Arm1 left and right)

 

[Ghost765]

yah, i tried already, and i couldnt even open the model in magos afterwards, after abit tweaking, the footy did some massive flops overhead, very messy.
anyways, i was just using ur model as a reference of what i want

 

[Ghost765]

boooomp

 

[Bloody_Turds]

I could modify the spearman(bandit) to have footman texture, and lengthen his spear, his attacks would be overhead though... (it shouldnt look to much like a throw)

oh btw PM if interested, i dont check forums often anymore

 

[Ghost765]

hm, could you geomerge the helmet/shield? i guess i could use that. if anybody else wants to give reanimating the footy a shot, please do so.

 

[Bloody_Turds]

it shouldnt look to different from the footman without the helm, the shield id probably change, but the helmet a simple reskin should look pretty close to the footman still... ill find out when i do it ofc ^^

 

[wugiboy]

Omg, wugi's doing something wc3 related again!? Ghost, you know me as a lazy bastard so don't get your hopes up though, I'll just do one attack anim, walk, and death (with no decay)

(OR IF I can still find that gondor spearman on my avatar, I'll probably just jack that one)

 

[Bloody_Turds]

actually a 2 handed pikeman would probably look better, they didnt really use shields much did they? but it looks nice

 

[Ghost765]

wugibastard, you better get this job done D: i remember you said u would give me an exclusive model in "a day or two". never happened.
just get it done comrade. defend animation would be nice, but not really neccassary.

i kinda wanted a shield since they would have an ability when activated they raise their shield, increase armor, damage return, but become immobile. but meh, having a two handed spearman is good enough for now.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

sorry for the OT. Didn't know this "bump" strat. Now i'll bump my thread too so it will be always on top. Smart! <_<

 

[Bloody_Turds]

well they dont necessarily need a shield for damage return.. and even some armor, as its easier to stand your ground, then charge

 

[Ghost765]

well, theyre supposed to be more of a defensive tier 1 unit. but anyways, we'll see what wugiboy is generous enough to give.

 

[Ghost765]

bump.

 

[Ghost765]

boomp.

 

[Ghost765]

bloomp

 

[Ghost765]

sigh. bump.

 

[Ghost765]

where the hell is kamaraden wugiboy
bump

 

[Bloody_Turds]

Eh, i could take a shot at editing the spearman XD, i may be able to give him an underhand jab instead of above throw...

 

[Ghost765]

dooo itttt comrade!

 

[Solecompanysole]

Why dont you use the Pikeman from Civilization??

 

[Ghost765]

cause it uses felguard animations and doesnt look like a warcraft footman.

 

[Ghost765]

blump.

 

[Wazzz]

Isn't it supposed to be a 2 day gap in between bumps, anyway?

Ow, you could replace the desired 'defend' animation with a 'phalanx' animation if the Pikeman is 2-handed, I reckon 2-handed Pikeman would be better anywayz.

But I'm afraid I don't know how to animate, so sorry to waste your time in that regard.

 

[Bloody_Turds]

id agree a 2handed would be better... but he wants a 1 hand... and since thats easier for me, im not gonna argue ^^

 

[Bloody_Turds]

Here, havnt tested ingame though ^^

 

[Ghost765]

he still kinda swings it in an arc :\ bjdsfljdsjflsl where da hell is wugiboi.
well, having both two handed and one handed would be cool

 

[Bloody_Turds]

yea? thats how you swing, the defend attack is a jab though... lawl, i could make the swing an 'alternate' and get rid of the defend anim, but i thought u wanted defend XD

 

[Ghost765]

yah...u swing in an arc -.-
anyways, i do need a defend style animation, but i dont think i can use that 0.o

 

[Bloody_Turds]

so i need to work with the swing?, it didnt look to bad in the modeleditor, maybe its worse ingame? spears arnt only used to jab are they?
i could invert the attacks or make the jab both attacks? i figured youd want some kinda slash...

 

[Ghost765]

no slash, spears are for thrusting and jabbing, they lack a long blade, so if they do slash, they would probably also hit someone with the wooden pole.

 

[Bloody_Turds]

not really, they do alot of jabbing, but not only jabbing... it just shows control and dicipline for a spearman to be able to slash ^^, aslong as they know their weapon its not that big of a task...

 

[Ghost765]

but spearmen usually fought in large formations, closed up together top provide maximal protection, but also to advance as a wall of spears. they would have too little room to swing a large polearm.
anyways, i see a halberd as more of a slashing/swinging weapon, not a spear tho.

 

[Bloody_Turds]

halabs are definently more of a swinging weapon, and the defend is a jab... the regular attack isnt.. would you prefer if they were both the same jab?

 

[Ghost765]

sure, if you could, make it a bit more exaggerated, like make him stab farther in.

 

[Ghost765]

rage bump

 

[Bloody_Turds]

Chill man... barely 2 days...

 

[Ghost765]

this should work, i'll switch out this head for the footmans. a different attack for defend and regular wouldve been nice :\, buts it fine. I'll use this unless wugiboy does something else (which i doubt he will >.>)

 

[Bloody_Turds]

eh, you actually want the footies head, ponytail and all? i figured some variation is actually a good thing, and it still fits with the foot nicely

 

[Ghost765]

well, this unit's gonna replace the footy, so i just geomerged the footy's head in. im not that big of a fan of the bandit's helmet :\. but it works quite good actually, you cant really notice any major faults in the animations in game.

 

[Wandering Soul]

A few question...

1) The model you requested is Heroes or normal units...?

2) Does the Shield-Pikeman need a 'Defend' stance...?
3) Is the Shield-Pikeman attack animation Piercing or Throwing...?

 

[Bloody_Turds]

his wasnt a hero
i made it with defend aninms (well it already had em XD)
his attack is piercing/jab

 

[Ghost765]

yah, what bloody_turds said.