Sorry... I Know How Bad I WAS. Please HELP!

[darkangel737]

::EDIT::
PLS SEE PAGE 2 ON MY PROGRESS


im SO SORRY for my previous terrain ... I didnt know how terrains actually are ... After Gilles advice ... i went to search around the forum ... see other ppl's work and realised how silly i was ... so i decided to do a new terrain ... but it got f*^ked up ... i wanted to make it a city entrance ... but the ultimate map's city gate was buggy ... so i couldnt increase or decrease the scale value ... so i make it into tis and nw im stucked ... im out of ideas .. HELP

SECOND TERRAIN
1)front view
2) front view
3) further view
4) top view( raised floor doodads ) took me a long time
5) back view

PLUS i colour tinted the front thing ...

nw give me ideas on how i should continue ty:
p.S Dun ask me wherr the water is coming frm ... I DUNNOOOO

 

[darkangel737]

tis are pic 5 i tink i reach the attachment limit

 

[Japut3h]

Just try to make it nice.Add some trees on the hills,use a lot of shrubs,as for the grass,mix it up with a lot of other tiles.Add some fish in the water,some props...Maybe add a tower on each hill?Use your creativity.

 

[Supermj]

I like this. You chould make it walkable.

 

[~Void~]

That's much better, and there's no attachment limit

 

[Gilles]

There is an attachment limit, 5mb I think. You weren't even close though.

This is actually really good! For a start. You need to do a lot more work on it, but so far it looks awesome! You will eventually need something in the background.

Keep going!

 

[Mor)L(unE]

I like it! There should still be worked on however

 

[DungeonM]

I suggest changing the tileset to the Village one and then adding in a few of the Ashenvale dirt tiles. Don't be afraid to use all of your textures. Throw a blend of different kinds of dirt in the water, don't use straight lines, ect.

But what you have now is a nice composure and can definetly be developed into something really nice looking.

 

[seruk]

Keep working on it, repost it when you've finished the stuff around it.

 

[Oziris]

Nice man i like it its much bether then the last time.But add doodads around the bridge or what it is.

 

[Vkm]FoL[Dx]

sorry for the flame at your last terrain. =]
you improved verry much

 

[darkangel737]

no ... i was asking for help on what i should do behind the raised doodads ... as u can c it is empty behind ... wat should i fill in over there behind the raised doodads ... and its incomplete thats why there are no environment doodads around and the hills are plain and i am so unlucky ... the new terraining map just came out x( and im using the old wan :'(

 

[<Offspring>]

Add some more environment on the hills and don't show the end of the map.

 

[seruk]

Actually, anything would fit in there. A city, a village, mountains, a forest. Just pick one.

 

[darkangel737]

finally ... haha ...
hmm maybe a lake ... a lake it is

 

[Mor)L(unE]

Or perhaps a lake, and make it a dam.

 

[darkangel737]

thanks ... I didnt noe why i did not think of that ... so i decided to put a lake behind those raised doodads

PROGRESS

1) Added a lake and some hills ... the hills are poky ... will smoothen them out later and btw the lake is incomplete

2) Added another wall using archway : city gate and sme raised tower doodads and castle wall segments will add some rocks in those spacing later

3) Added a Barrack custom doodad modified with tower doodads and a blue doodad flag , and some rocks around it ... its supposed to be a exit frm the dam to the hills

4) Added custom doodads using models of kael and a blood elf lieutenant and also added a raised table , chair , glasses and a candle ...
my favourite screen shot

HOPE YOU LIKE IT!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS x)

 

[Gilles]

You need a sky and fog. Even though this is WIP, I suggest adding them now just to make them better.

 

[darkangel737]

ok no problem thanks gilles *pro* ;D



DUngeon M why village????? bt no prob i'll try

 

[DungeonM]

Go to bed SANTA IS COMING!

Oh and as for the terrain, try a different tileset. Village Summer would probally look alot better especially with some tile variation.

 

[Kwaliti]

First of all, lemme ask you something: What IS this actually, a dam or a bridge?

 

[Naze]

Ok, here are the

Coments:

1) Yeah, that is really better!
2) Me and many people don't like the default cliffs that come with the editor, try to avoid them next time or cover them with doodads.
3) Is this playable?
4) Congratulations, you are a very constructive person taht noticed that wasn't all that good in terrainning, and asked for help! We need more people like you!

(Oh, and for a first terrain [I can't say the other was a terrain] it is really good!)



Help:

1) Your hills are too angled and pointy. You must use the large circular brush on the raise ground if you want to make a good-lookin' hill, try it next time. But the "mistake" is already done. Undo the top of your hills, no matter how, and then, lightly raise them with the large circular brush. They don't have to be tall, they need look natural.

2)I know it is a work-in-progress, but, don't forget to add barrels, armor hacks, boxes, at the bridge (just don't add them at the paths); and shrubs, rocks (pay attention if they're floating, if they are, replace them), fallen logs and other enviormental doodads. Lily pads looks great!

3) You need a fog. If you don't know how to use the terrain fog, not the region fog, you'll need this tutorial. It will teach you how to do it.


Keep praticin'!!!!

 

[Craka_J]

I like these. The surroundings of the dam / bridge needs a lot of work and details added though.

~Craka_J

 

[darkangel737]

its a dam ... but its like a guard post or smth ... came out of my imagination ... and \naze .. your reply helps me alot ... and why exactly u nid mre ppl like me ... im jus a bloody noob terrainer ... and unfortunately ... tis terrain was made by a noob so it isnt walkable x( and craka J ... its incomplete ... the hills and there is no environment doodads ... nt yet ... im focusing on completeing the dam first and adding unit models doodads on it x) im a slow worker ... cos im kinda busy ... SORRY x(

 

[Kwaliti]

Well, it looks like \Naze covered everything I had to say, so, only thing I can say is to keep practicing.

 

[darkangel737]

:: UPDATE ::


I've done the hills but not behind the hills ... added fog ... not sure if this is the right kind of fog ... plus i finished the lake but havent added environment doodads and still have no idea what i should put on my dam ...



pls tell me if the fog is wrong or anything ... either wrong kind of fog or the colour i picked sucks . but personally i love the hills and this fog ... it gives a morning and misty feeling xD




HERE ARE SOME SCREENIES

 

[Kwaliti]

An outstanding improvement! Choose the Lordaeron Summer sky and make the fog color light blue. Add some doodads, like weapon racks, barrels, crates, etc...

 

[darkangel737]

Add some doodads, like weapon racks, barrels, crates, etc...

But where do i put dem plus there is a BIG space ontop the dam

 

[Kwaliti]

Place them near the towers, or whatever they are, place them near the walls.

 

[darkangel737]

how abt the middle?

 

[Kwaliti]

If you place it there, then people won't be able to move; you'll just make a useless barricade.

 

[Naze]

Remember to keep the paths clear of doodads while adding them.

I suggest you to place the barracks on the hill, not on the dam, because it looks too heavy to be built there.

Keep the work! You'll see that the finished terrain will give you some yummy rep points ;]

 

[darkangel737]

nahh i like the barracks over dere ... its a entrance of a passage to get out of that dam... lol yummy rep points ... YUM YUM ... bt wat should i put at the other end ... the big space ... some units training??? snipers and footman

 

[Naze]

snipers in that age would be difficult xD

Well.... If I was you, I would add the "City Entrence" doodad, some collumns, and walls. They don't have to be tall. They must have... hmmm... 2 footmen tall, if you understand me.

 

[darkangel737]

snipers in that age??? - wat does it mean

City entrance is buggy .. cant decrease scale ...

colums and walls - to put where?

2 footman tall - wat do u mean ???

 

[Naze]

See the attached pictures.

(This is just a suggestion, if you want to do other things, feel free to do it =])

PS: I used the barracks model to make the wall, you can use what you want.

 

[darkangel737]

it took me a lng time to make tat bloody dam and do those hills ... im not gonna convert the whole thing to a city entrance!!!!!

 

[Naze]

no, you didn't understood!

I mean, you asked "what I put on that empty space at the other side of the dam?"

This is what you could put there. A "2 footmen" tall wall, with a city entrence, and some decorative stuff like collumns. (No, benches not included)

No hill/dam must be touched!

 

[darkangel737]

oh ok but wat would it mean ? that dam is build for what ... AND i am goin to give u some yummy reps for being wif me for so long ... U ROK

 

[Naze]

ooohh, thx for the meal ^^

My idea is attached here.

 

[darkangel737]

kk no problem and u using tablet or u free hand draw it wif a mouse kk got ure idea how about the middle of the dam???

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

Well, this is outstanding! Keep at it and eat rep!

 

[Naze]

No tablets, I made that draw in paint...

About the empty space at the dam....

hm....

How about vendors? with tables, barrels and stuff?

Or a trainning area to the soldiers...

The dam is yours!

 

[darkangel737]

OMFG ... Its 6 am over here ( japan ) im on vacation ... and im not aslp ... all naze fault xD jokin ... anyway more updates ... see the screenies ... edited the hills and added more ... added some environment doodads as u can c ... but i dunno what to put on the hills ???Dam still unchanged ... took out the units doodads , table , chairs , glasses and candles ... maybe i make my dam like a market place with shops at the side ... really have no idea ... or should i jus spam wall doodads in the middle and have it cover up ... i really dunno

 

[Naze]

See Craka's terrain showcase and HappyTaurens too. Pay attention to the natural areas. You'll get an idea of what to fix at the hills.

So u are at japan??? Oh, thats so far away!

 

[FireMaster]

A market will look better

 

[Craka_J]

You still have a lot of environmental work to do on the mountains and hills. Perhaps download a custom grass model which blends better with your terrain and place them around the terrain. I'm having trouble thinking of ideas to improve this terrain at the moment.

~Craka_J

 

[seruk]

It's still very bare. Where is it supposed to be exactly, and why was a dam built in the middle of grassy-hill land? Think about that first, then move on to decoration.

 

[Craka_J]

The area which the dam is meant to keep filled with water is very small too. Probably would have no need for a dam in the first place actually since the water is probably enough to fill a river or stream. Make the water-pool of the dam a lot larger and then there'll be a purpose for the dam.

~Craka_J

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

Craka_J have you ever considered the fact that it might be a few hundred feet deep?