Solar Conquest v0.97e

[SasuhKun]

Correction.

HELL, it is about time!

by the way, do we have a yamato cannon of some sort in SC (Solar, not Star)? I do not remember.

 

[TKF]

by the way, do we have a yamato cannon of some sort in SC (Solar, not Star)? I do not remember.

Yeah I equipped the Hyperion Battlecruiser with yamato cannon (nicknamed chamber laser) before I entered the Hyperion with Jim Raynor.

 

[xXDivinexX]

The best space map forever

 

[Omnom18]

I've found a particularly fatal bug, which has occured to me twice.

Playing in single player (not sure about online) the Mineral Regenerators tend to spazz out and corrupts the game file when saved.

 

[TKF]

I might be releasing a bugfix version, but according to someone it was not possible to bombard planets with nightmare ultimate ability. Can someone confirm this?

I don't bother to test it myself as I'm to busy with SC2. But if it's bugged I need to release a bugfix version. Without feedback there will be no bugfixes as I reject it as it did work when I did testings with nightmare plasma beam before the 0.93d release and it was working in every sense and possible ways. So that doesn't make any sense if it don't work.


It did work 100% when I was testing and I'm quite sure it does so in protected version. I don't believe optimizer would fuck up that.

 

[Dragonsz]

Hello TKF and Callex

When I tried using the nightmares ability on a planet it said the target was invincible or invulnerable (whatever), but I may not have reaserched orbital bombardment ability from the space reaserch centre, (im pretty sure I did though and you dont need that reaserch upgrade to make nightmares or get their ability.)

Also other bugs I found were when I reaserched the trade final tier tech from the economic reaserch centre 2 of the unlocked technologies did not function properly. The Trade contraband which says that you trade with your enemies did not do what it said because there were no cargo ships going to and from the hostile players trade port, and the trade espionage did not let me see planets controlled by enemy players (in this game I was in a trade alliance with one player and I was fighting against another player, there was only 3 of us.)

Another bug when I played in single player was that when I reaserched warp tech and got a dreadlord ship from the dark energy shipyard it could not use the warp ability after it used its cloaking ability, even after I uncloak it the button for the warp jump is not there anymore.

When you use warp gates from planet to planet the game can tell you when the one minute is up rather then you counting or guessing when the gate is open.

Also the cloaking ability for dark energy ships can be reaserched at both the ground and space reaserch centres, I dont know if this is a bug or intentional.

Also with reacerch someone who is not firmiliar with the tech trees might have trouble finding out how to get the fusion or dark energy shipyards because there is no indication that you need light spectrum analisis from the ground reaserch centre to unlock laser cutting tools and could be a block for new players, this can be corrected by making the laser cutting tools tech show up in the space reaserch so people know they need LSA from the ground reaserch centre to get it.

Great work both of you this is the best game on WC3

Also an idea there can be a tech you can reaserch which enables you to clean up the radiation damage to a planet caused by nuke strikes and galactic cannon shots.

 

[TKF]

Hello TKF and Callex

When I tried using the nightmares ability on a planet it said the target was invincible or invulnerable (whatever), but I may not have reaserched orbital bombardment ability from the space reaserch centre, (im pretty sure I did though and you dont need that reaserch upgrade to make nightmares or get their ability.)

Well this force me to check it.

Well thanks, but It works in the testings, but not on the protected version for some very odd reason, I don't understand why....

I'll try to make a workaround on this annoying bug....

Also other bugs I found were when I reaserched the trade final tier tech from the economic reaserch centre 2 of the unlocked technologies did not function properly. The Trade contraband which says that you trade with your enemies did not do what it said because there were no cargo ships going to and from the hostile players trade port, and the trade espionage did not let me see planets controlled by enemy players (in this game I was in a trade alliance with one player and I was fighting against another player, there was only 3 of us.)

Well, contraband doesn't work if your enemy doesn't build trade port. Trade espionage allows you to see all cargo vessels, with the planets I nulled the vision so maybe you can't see other planets...

Another bug when I played in single player was that when I reaserched warp tech and got a dreadlord ship from the dark energy shipyard it could not use the warp ability after it used its cloaking ability, even after I uncloak it the button for the warp jump is not there anymore.

This must have existed for a long time, thanks for reporting this bug.

Also the cloaking ability for dark energy ships can be reaserched at both the ground and space reaserch centres, I dont know if this is a bug or intentional.

Yep, and I plan to do so with the laser tech cuz in almost every game people miss the laser cutting tool tech and never look in the ground research.

Also with reacerch someone who is not firmiliar with the tech trees might have trouble finding out how to get the fusion or dark energy shipyards because there is no indication that you need light spectrum analisis from the ground reaserch centre to unlock laser cutting tools and could be a block for new players, this can be corrected by making the laser cutting tools tech show up in the space reaserch so people know they need LSA from the ground reaserch centre to get it.

Finding dark tech isn't so difficult as making fusion tech with laser. If someone never build space research center, they get a HUGE annoying hint message after 40 min if they don't build it.... kinda a noob reminder.



Dang those bugs force me to release another fix version....

 

[Dragonsz]

Well this force me to check it.

Well, contraband doesn't work if your enemy doesn't build trade port. Trade espionage allows you to see all cargo vessels, with the planets I nulled the vision so maybe you can't see other planets...

This must have existed for a long time, thanks for reporting this bug.

Yep, and I plan to do so with the laser tech cuz in almost every game people miss the laser cutting tool tech and never look in the ground research.

Dang those bugs force me to release another fix version....

All very good ideas, also with the trade contraband I know for sure the other guy did have a trade port because I could see it from the scan ability with the scout ships (I keep tabs on everyone this way because its easy to dominate space with either a load of fighters early on or by rushing to aegis cruisers and killing everyone space fleet) so you might want to look into fixing this bug as well and if the espionage ability does not affect planets then it shouldn't say that it does, although giving somekind of benefit from this particual final tier tech and the other unlocked techs from it other then getting more money would be a very very good idea.

One other thing is that when you use a transport or especially a ghost transport it might be better to have it not unload the guys in it right when it enteres the planet because with a ghost transport usually you would want to use the stealth ability and find an empty area on the planet to unload your units because you may want to cloak your specialists or secretly build a base with some construction units.

A thought too is that mabie you can have another kind of beacon that when you enter the planet with ships they will automatically be where the beacon is and not randomly anywhere.

I also have some suggestions for balanceing that I think you should consider.

The power of the anarion battlestation im not sure is worth the cost or all the reaserch you have to get before it. When I used it it died to 1 or 2 aegis cruisers and 2 devastator ships and it didn't kill one of them. Granted I didn't use the laser ability because I didn't have advanced lasers from the space reaserch centre, and I know in a previous version you nerfed it but it seems it should be buffed a little. Also the anarion battlestation should not die to one shot of the galactic cannon which can easily happen due to the fact that GC's can be reaserched and built earlier the antarion (antarions require more reaserch before they can be built, such as plasma weapons level 8), dispite being more expensive.

Also Antarion and other ships or stations leave their modules lying there after they have died, I dont know if this is intentional or not.

If you look at the damage and cost of heavy missle platforms and AA vehicles that seems to be unbalanced as well, as AA vehcles cost a fraction of HMP on the command centre but I think they do almost the same dps (they attack faster but the missle platforms do more damage per shot).

One of the darkenergy ships that leaves the gravity well, is there someway to make that dissapear when you dont need it? Does it also slow down missles from planetary missle launchers or GC shots?

Sorry to hit you with all this but I really think these things need balancing.

Everyone who playes the game usually get GC's after they have space dominance so makeing there be a point to reaserching any of the other final tier techs would greatly improve the game overall, im not sure if there is now or not but im just saying.

 

[TKF]

I've just sent 0.94 to Callex, it contains some major changes to the gameplay with a radical change as a new super class of capital ships has entered the scene, FLAGSHIPS. You are only allowed to have one of them, as they get stronger during the game and has more abilties than any other ships ingame.

I did a few bugfixes.

spoiler

Starcarrier Flagship

Edit_
0.94b contains several bugfixes

 

[Dragonsz]

TKF in 0.93d theres still the bug with the ion cannon satellite (from ion final tier tech) that lets you use it on a planet that its not in orbit of. What you do is you put it on a control group, use the camera control (f2) or zoom to another planet yourself, then you press the number of the control group that the ion cannon satellite is in and you right click. I hope you fixed that one too.

 

[TKF]

TKF in 0.93d theres still the bug with the ion cannon satellite (from ion final tier tech) that lets you use it on a planet that its not in orbit of. What you do is you put it on a control group, use the camera control (f2) or zoom to another planet yourself, then you press the number of the control group that the ion cannon satellite is in and you right click. I hope you fixed that one too.

Ok, gonna look into it.

Edit_
Fixed

I put a lockdown condition to prevent that in 0.94c which will be released at hive as soon Callex logon.

Edit_

0.94c is released. If you find any more bugs let me know. Fixed the Planetary Defense Laser bug and Ion Cannon Bug. Also added a bigger shipclass: Flagships.

 

[SasuhKun]

Hmm... you have sc2, but will you update SC until 1.00 like your achiv says your will?

And also, Dragonsz, double/triple posts are not allowed... if you want to add something else toy our post just use the edit button. It is against the rules, so you'd better fix those posts up there so that you don't get banned or anything.

 

[Dragonsz]

TKF The carrier ships computer targeting aura does not seem to affect buildings because the attack bonus does not show up when I click on a building and the ship is within range. Also with the fission hero ship if you get the nuclear weapons there is no way to use it if you dont get the orbital bombaring ability as the first ability.

You should also try to add more hero ships to choose from, I know there are only 3 advanced engene upgrades, but still.... a defensive hero that gets a bonus from say ion tech is a good idea.

One more thing, I just noticed that the ground reaserch and space reaserch centre doesn't get the armor bonus from titanium upgrades from the military lab when I was doing a single player game.

 

[TKF]

...with the fission hero ship if you get the nuclear weapons there is no way to use it if you dont get the orbital bombarding ability as the first ability.

Is it a bug or is it impossible to use nuclear weapons if you learn it as lv2? Of course you cannot use it if you don't skill bombard ability.

You should also try to add more hero ships to choose from, I know there are only 3 advanced engene upgrades, but still.... a defensive hero that gets a bonus from say ion tech is a good idea.

The atlas is a defensive unit, and the flagships is unique so they are not like any other ships ingame.

For example the Excelsior was a nasty recall ability (Warp Tech) which allows you to relocate your entire fleet if needed as well as a excellent combat vessel, also allowing you to escape if it looks like a loosing battle. Armageddon is adept at bombarding planets and combat, while the Vazilion Starcarrier is the ultimate support ship with abilities which also makes it harder to take down, which has shields as bonus powers.

Choosing the same final tier for that flagship you choose, only give it a bonus ability advantage, you don't have to do that. Also flagships is quite expensive and hard to get as it requires intensive research to get one of them. They are perhaps weaker than an Antarion and perhaps a bit stronger than a battlecruiser, but they can get stronger and also have 4 modules slots even if they cost 10k less. I've removed the ability to repair them with space workers and repair drones for now as they can be very powerful... But not to powerful. You can rebuild them with same level which makes it even more useful than normal ships non-leveling ships.


I only planned 1 hero for each engine class, maybe I'll release a new type, but not atm.

 

[H3lios]

Now that biological warfare has been nerfed to hell as well as moved upwards on the tech tree. I believe that this technology should receive a buff. Here is what I suggest.

1. Reactivate the ability for biological forces to create hatcheries. which spawns a blight that heals biological units, causes them to move faster and hit faster and also spawns tentacles to attack nearby enemies. This building should be somewhat resistant to orbital bombardment requiring either extended, super-heavy barrages from expensive fleets of ships or a team to go down to the planet and clear it out at great risk.
2. Reactivate the ability for biological units to evolve into air units.
3. Give the biological units more of an ability to withstand flamers as they are too hard a counter at this time. Specialists are also incredibly powerful.
4. Allow players to drop more biological units at a time.
5. Make eggs hatch faster over all planets. Perhaps each planet has it's own hatch script to prevent bio from being nerfed because of rampant dispersal.
6. Allow biological units to enter space once there is no life left on a planet after a certain period of time where all 5 circles have been infested.
7. Allow biological units to slowly infest a planet more and more with infested buildings.
8. Make a space unit to allow biological players to infect other people's ships (Similar to the Corruptor of SCII, perhaps a Damage over time buff that spreads to nearby ships, as well as an armor, speed and rate of fire nerf.)
9. Make a ground artillery vehicle that is based on biological weapons.
10. Have hatcheries create miasmas or some kind of atmospheric disturbance that damages regular units and vehicles over time while healing biological units who's intensity and spread is dictated by the number of hatcheries present on the planet and the time they have been active.

I believe that these changes will allow biological weapons to perhaps stand up to a player armed with nuclear missiles, robotics or ion cannons. As of now, biological is a waste of a final tier tech. Investing in any other technology is a much smarter choice and to balance this out biological warfare must be brought up to the same level as the other techs.

Just shooting the wind for ideas to help this technology along.

 

[Dragonsz]

I had suggested that biological weapons can have various techs that you can reaserch later in the game so that its weaker in the beginning but it gets stronger as the game progresses.

Also I had suggested before that the antarion needs to be buffed a little bit for space battles. 1 antarion cannot defeat 2 nightmare battleships which are cheaper (although I know nightmares specifically are meant to destroy large ships) and it cannot defeat a group of other capitol ship who cost added up is relatively the same as the antarion's cost, the benefits of the antarion currently is that it can have 4 modules and its orbitol bombardment ability is awsome (its ability to autocast it is nice).

Edit_Minor bugs

On space age mode the refinery pulse gun tech doesn't appear at all until you can reaserch it unlike normal tech and it comes a little later, and you can make refiney ships before you have automated construction.

 

[Jargalhurts]

i just noticed that on the loading screen at the bottom, it says "This a beta". Shouldn't that be "This is a beta"? And "War Conscription" research says "War Concription".

 

[tonykuan]

I am a guy who love RTS games and been finding maps for long time

your map just got me
i F... love it so much

thx for the trick H3lios

how do you get rid of planetary defensive missile

i am a guy who like to atk from orbit
but they keep on sending the f...... missile
and i can't destroy it on time

how do i stop it

 

[Dragonsz]

Get you capitol ships to have some laser weapon modules that will help greatly to shoot down missles. If they have too many missle launchers or planetary laser cnnons then get phenix ships and use their drones to bomb the planet or nuke it with devestators.

 

[H3lios]

I hope this gets more attention, it would suck to see it gone before 1.0

 

[tonykuan]

is this being continue

Is this map being continue

 

[Lungdrache]

I hope the mapmaker made more updates

 

[TKF]

I'm focusing on Cruiser Command atm and making new systems to it.

I'm not home this weekend, so the work on Cruiser Command 0.82 will be delayed about 1 week. Solar Conquest have to wait until I get more time, first I will update Cruiser Command then I'll see. I also lost my bug list over current bugs so I have to pick them up again.



If you find any more bugs on Solar Conquest feel free to post them. Also The flagships isn't properly balanced so if you have any suggestions feel free to post them. Also their abilities were made in a hurry so they could have been much better with some better and creative abilities.

 

[tonykuan]

I'm focusing on Cruiser Command atm and making new systems to it.

I'm not home this weekend, so the work on Cruiser Command 0.82 will be delayed about 1 week. Solar Conquest have to wait until I get more time, first I will update Cruiser Command then I'll see. I also lost my bug list over current bugs so I have to pick them up again.



If you find any more bugs on Solar Conquest feel free to post them. Also The flagships isn't properly balanced so if you have any suggestions feel free to post them. Also their abilities were made in a hurry so they could have been much better with some better and creative abilities.

i will be wait for your next solar conquest

 

[tim1up1]

idk if this is a bug but, i somehow can't click on any units deep in the game of 1 vs 1, this is the story, we were about to have a space battle and i was giving my opponent some money (crystal and currency), after i send him the amount of money, i can't click on anything, except for my hero (the left top corner), the F1 and F2 button (clicking them in the top left corner) i tired moving the hero but i can't move it, i can't zoom into the planet, i could move around the map with my mouse and arrow key but can't click on the map (bottom left corner) i can't zoom into the planet with the F2 command list, and once again, i can't click on anything except for the menu (quest, menu, alliance, chat) , and F1 F2 and the hero button.

if you want to skip all the big blob of words:
-i can't click on (most) anything
-i could click on button F1 F2 and the hero (top left corner of the screen)
-i can't zoom into the planet with the command list
-i can't click on the map (bottom left corner)
-i could click on the menu (quest, menu, alliance, chat)
-i can't click on the abilities on the hero
-i could trade
-i could click on anything in the F1 command list (peace treaty, trade, etc)
-i could still scroll down and type in -cam
-and once again, i can't click on (most) anything

 

[Garfield1337]

If your opponent didn't have same problem,then it's probably wc3 bug.

EDIT: I think that actually happened to me in some other maps...not sure,however.

 

[tim1up1]

If your opponent didn't have same problem,then it's probably wc3 bug.

well then, it's a bug .

 

[TKF]

That "everything disappear" bug should have been eliminated, but it seems like it's not if this happened in 0.94c. Did this happen in the latest version?


Did all units disappear or not?

 

[tim1up1]

That "everything disappear" bug should have been eliminated, but it seems like it's not if this happened in 0.94c. Did this happen in the latest version?


Did all units disappear or not?

no, not one unit dissappeared, and this bug (can't click on anything) was in 0.94c

 

[tim1up1]

i think you should add AI to the game, i don't see that much people hosting solar conquest in the east sever.

 

[Carter_117]

i think you should add AI to the game, i don't see that much people hosting solar conquest in the east sever.

They tried adding AI into the game, thats why the miners start mining but nothing else, its just to complicated to add into a game such as this, if u saw this map in the editor you'd know why soz ;\

 

[median]

this is my favorite space map

 

[Carter_117]

hmm could you add a game mode where you can have 2 final tier techs? i think that wuld be gud > also for another planet idea why dont you just make a world affected by nuke winter or maybe a farm world...

 

[H3lios]

Any word on a new version yet, TKF?

hmm could you add a game mode where you can have 2 final tier techs? i think that wuld be gud > also for another planet idea why dont you just make a world affected by nuke winter or maybe a farm world...

Map size is completely used up. There is no more space for additional planets, sorry.

 

[TKF]

Map size is completely used up. There is no more space for additional planets, sorry.

That is correct. There will be only 5 planets with the current terrain limit the wc3 engine has to offer.

Any word on a new version yet, TKF?

No promises there. I have 3 less hour freetime every day recently due to a new employment so I don't have much time as before, also it limits my progress on cruiser command. I'm quite out of time atm and it doesn't help me much. Also I don't have a big list for solar conquest.

The only thing I have is:

• Fixing victory condition bug (doesn't work until everyone leaves, bugfix)
• Bug which destroys F1 control (disappearance bug)
• readjusting flagships (balance)
• Rebalance the attack strengths of ships (balance)

 

[H3lios]

The bug which makes the F1 menu go away is resolved when the game reloads the leaderboards as someone leaves the game. I suggest simply making a -debug command or such button to make the board come back up.

Biowarfare still sucks compared to
everything else. I've already provided some suggestions on how to make it not so fail in late-mid and early game.

 

[H3lios]

Any chance of this being remade for Starcraft II? That would be the best thing ever.

 

[Carter_117]

2 final tier mode!!! =D lol

also just use edit dont double post;\

 

[TKF]

Any chance of this being remade for Starcraft II? That would be the best thing ever.

Don't know yet, Callex know more of the SC2 editor than me. It seems it take much longer time to do stuff in the sc2 editor, especially when I know everything in the wc3 editor and little in the sc2 editor, I feel a bit handicapped of not having global variables at all. The unit editor is still very complex and imo it could made better since it's hard to get the overview and you must take notes on what you do since it's hard to get back to where you where. I spent about 2 years of mastering the wc3 editor and it will prolly be the same with sc2 editor but I've barely used it and gave up on it due to the complex build they decide to use, it was easier to learn to use the wc3 editor since it was made more straight forward, while the tremendios options in sc2 editor is simply more overwhelming than the half-life world editor.

I doubt I would make it in SC2, especially with much less free time now.

 

[Arcmage]

There are global variables in SC2 it just has locals as well. The data editor is more complex for simple things like say simply duplicating a marine and changing its stats, but it is much easier and less lagy to make complex ability's. Many of the ships special weapons and ability'swould actual be easier in Sc2 because you don't need to use triggers (you can do it all with data). I would offer to help but I am already working on several projects

 

[TKF]

I'll be releasing a new version very shortly. It might come as a shock to yo, but I decided to finish my little todo list and also wish list, so I added the final planned ship class into the game. Mothership. It's a basically a tough mobile battle station sort of, with the capability of having 5 modules and producing fighters quite rapidly.

Also 1 more dark energy capital ship to build.

There will be a few bugfixes and balance changes.

Mothership

I doubt I will release more versions after this one, so don't expect new ones, maybe critical fixes only, but only on bugreports.

Edit_

The new version is released. Here is the changelog.

Added a new dark energy ship: Reaper Capital Ship
Added a new HUGE SHIP: MOTHERSHIP!!!
Mothership wields powerful photon torpedoes and has 5 module slots
The Excelsior Hero can now also launch drones
Slightly decreased the damage done by drones
Decreased the costs of flagships a little
Greatly decreased the costs of colossal drydocks from 2500 to 900 credits
Flagships can now be repaired by space builders
Fixed a bug which didn't remove spaceflight ability in space
Greatly reduced the pyro marines bonus damage vs mutagenic creeps
Increased the mining speed from green crystals
Increased the starting amount of crystals from 125 to 300
Readjusted the damage settings for most units
The damage upgrades should now increase the units base damage with 10% pr level
Slightly increased the damage of Antarion Battle Station
Slightly reduced the range of all space defenses
Increased the damage of ground structure based AA defenses
Moved the asteroids from mid so the asteroid miners can mine with less risk
Slightly adjusted the costs of a few ships
Slightly tweaked the hp for a few ships
Fixed a bug that was shown to all players when trading with trade center
Fixed a bug related to the victory condition
Lots of minor adjustments

 

[Arcmage]

I always have the hardest time trying to find a game of this which is sad because its my favorite map. Does anyone know of any clans for this map? Anyone want to start one?

 

[frostloh]

Hard to believe a game of such quality can be found at 2.27 MB...

 

[TKF]

Well, I will release 0.95b shortly. It will mostly feature balancing on space ships since some of those are really unbalanced compared so some others. I will do some math and recalculate damage settings and their costs.


Still, it will be rewarding to research better ships, but smaller ships will be slightly less garbage than before since I will base my balancing on the fighter ships and then through costs balance their hp and damage. However each engine category will be balanced for themselves, so it will be slightly more rewarding to go for dark/fusion ships since you need some researching to get them.


Also modules do provide to much added firepower compared to my new dps formula, they will also be balanced.




I have no known bugs, so if you are aware of bugs in the map, let me know within tomorrow.

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Edit

Here is the changelog for the latest version

Made significant balancing and tweaking on most space units
Made several major damage adjustments to several ships
All space ships should now be more or less balanced
Due to the ships rebalancing, the weapons modules damage has been halved
Halved the losing condition timer from 4 minutes to 2 minutes
Increased the motherships basic damage in both modes (balance)
Buffed the motherships photon ability
Increased the cost of battlestation by 25%
Readjusted the upgrade costs of rockets, lasers and plasma
Fixed a bug that caused United we Stand tech being unavailable in 2 teams mode
Fixed a minor ending bug

I didn't balance the flagships (heroes) in this version.

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Added a 3rd evolution state to the mutagenic beings: Mutagenic Monster
Mutagenic creatures is slightly more effective against ground vehicles now
Applied "lost" and "left" tags on player names on multiboard
Rebalanced the costs, hp and damage of all troops
Rebalanced the costs, hp and damage of all vehicles
Reduced the hp of transport ships and ghost transports
It's now much more costful to repair space vessels
Cloaked ships do now have current hp
Leaver notices will now be applied almost immediately
Changed the flagships skill adjustments pr level
Fixed a mistyping which made trade federation tech cost 95000 credits
Fixed a bug that caused wrong names turn to grey when there was less than 10 players
Minor adjustments

Also going to release 0.95c this weekend. I accidentally made trade federation unreasonable unavailable so the next version will fix it. If you encounter any bugs let me know.

 

[Omnom18]

Map size is completely used up. There is no more space for additional planets, sorry.

Not without extra solar systems to travel to. But then it wouldn't be called SOLAR Conquest any more I assume, and it may strain the map(s?) to do that anyway.

 

[TKF]

Current goal is to greatly improve the balancing in the map. Currently I would appreaciate what should be nerfed, what is to weak and to strong. Everything from defenses in space and ground, to space ships and ground forces. What is lame which can be fixed? Bug reports is appreciated too.

Next thing is to balance is defenses. That means a minor balance update.

It's so difficult to host this and test the balance changes for myself, nearly impossible to get people to join my game.

 

[SasuhKun]

Even before you separated Antarion and Galatic Cannon, they were already weak somehow. I think you should buff them more... I won over most antarion users, and when I tried it myself, I lost. After all, Antarion's supposed to be worth the cost.

 

[TKF]

Even before you separated Antarion and Galatic Cannon, they were already weak somehow. I think you should buff them more... I won over most antarion users, and when I tried it myself, I lost. After all, Antarion's supposed to be worth the cost.

The immense ability of bombards planets substracts the antarions fighting strength, and when it starts bombarding it's hard to deal with it. Also it has a powerful ability to deal 8000 damage from long range which also adds to its value, making it potential able to instant kill a capital ship or a cruiser easily. If you should be able to win over it, you must attack it head on with an overwhelming fleet. If you rush Antarion without building a fleet, it's very vulnerable alone without support, so it's a mobile super bombardment weapon with decent firepower, but not so difficult to defeat. With it's cooldown and damage, it's at great disadvantage over a numerous light ships and nightmare battlecruiser. It has been buffed a bit in the 0.95b version with 3000-6000 damage. I never rush it, cuz it's normally a bad tactic vs better players. I'll look over the numbers and see if I need to buff it's hp or something.

I will consider adding dark plating ability to the Antarion to make it slightly tough vs fusion ships and more resistant to planetary lasers.


Galactic cannon has the potential of crippling ones planet and thus a super weapon which is kinda at a luxury price. Therefore it's very costy investment. I consider it as one of the strongest final tiers, altough it's price seems to be quite high, it's a super weapon which can be used at unlimited range in space. It can also decimate a fleet which costs as much as the cannon itself. It's weapon is so decisive and dangerous, that it often get other players to organize themselves against taking it out. Also if a player is having extremely high amount of PML and GTS defenses, using this cannon can save you the problem of never ending sieges.


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But the ships itself might need to be tweaked, but I've done a major balancing so I nerfed some ships which actually was to powerful compared to their old price and compensated with increasing it's costs or nerfing it so it isn't too strong compared to it's price.

I might look over the way of balancing the ships again later, but currently its better than pre 0.95 balancing.

 

[Aliverich]

I was playing the game with my friend today, and i got a weird glitch. We had just started the game, and we were picking the modes and what not. I think in between picking normal game and space age, i clicked on the thingy in the corner(i forget what the picture was of) that pops up the menu do see diplomacy,income rate, etc... then after that the space age menu pooped up. I clicked it, and then the the diplomacy, income rate, and etc menu wouldn't finish loading. I couldn't do anything after that, we had to restart the whole game. I couldn't move click on anything and non of the menu buttons worked.

 

[TKF]

I was playing the game with my friend today, and i got a weird glitch. We had just started the game, and we were picking the modes and what not. I think in between picking normal game and space age, i clicked on the thingy in the corner(i forget what the picture was of) that pops up the menu do see diplomacy,income rate, etc... then after that the space age menu pooped up. I clicked it, and then the the diplomacy, income rate, and etc menu wouldn't finish loading. I couldn't do anything after that, we had to restart the whole game. I couldn't move click on anything and non of the menu buttons worked.

Ok, checked it and confirmed it. It appear to bug before the vote completely ends as a result of the F1 not being properly disabled during the vote, so I will fix in next bugfix/balance version.