Since when the Tauren Chieftain has a walk fast animation?

[Callahan]

Just figured he has a walk fast anmiation but I'm pretty sure it wasn't there before.

 

[Orcnet]

Same here, guess were too old school to notice haha.

 

[PROXY]

I see none.

 

[Dr Super Good]

A lot of units do. Just most maps have them move at maximum speed so you never see it.

 

[Callahan]

A lot of units do. Just most maps have them move at maximum speed so you never see it.

I know that some unit have a walk fast animation but I'm pretty sure Tauren Chieftain didn't have one for a long time.

 

[Callahan]

I see none.

Then what's this?

 

[General Frank]

And this is extracted from the standard mpq?

 

[Callahan]

It's in the editor.The little model shower.You see in the screenshot I have untitled new map and just selected the standard Tauren hero.

 

[Solu9]

That's odd. I just checked. My Tauren Chieftain only shows the normal Walk animation.

 

[Go'el]

That's odd. I just checked. My Tauren Chieftain only shows the normal Walk animation.

The mine too :/

 

[Callahan]

Ok I know what this is.
Only low and medium quality verison of Tauren Chieftain have walk fast animation.
You don't have it in high model quality.

 

[Solu9]

Ok I know what this is.
Only low and medium quality verison of Tauren Chieftain have walk fast animation.
You don't have it in high quality.

I have no idea. I just have the default one (I assume).

 

[Dr Super Good]

I have no idea. I just have the default one (I assume).

Never trust default game settings as they are always wrong. Heck SC2 recommended me minimum purely due to my new graphic card was not recognized at the time.

 

[Callahan]

I figured this out.
I opened War3_med.mpq in magos and found the model with the walk fast animation.
Now it would be better when modeling using the medium quality as base rather than the high quality one.
Uploaded the medium quality one for those having trouble finding it in mpq.
Too bad I discovered this only now all those model using TC animations could have had an extra walk fast animation.

 

[Solu9]

Never trust default game settings as they are always wrong. Heck SC2 recommended me minimum purely due to my new graphic card was not recognized at the time.

No no, not default game settings. Those are maxed. I mean the default model (again, I assume).

 

[Phoxwell]

Ok I know what this is.
Only low and medium quality verison of Tauren Chieftain have walk fast animation.
You don't have it in high model quality.

Wait, so the high quality version doesn't have it? Weird. I would think it would be the opposite.

 

[Callahan]

No no, not default game settings. Those are maxed. I mean the default model (again, I assume).

Those are in the setting.It's model quality low, medium, high.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Wait, so the high quality version doesn't have it? Weird. I would think it would be the opposite.

Probably uses different more smooth animations than the low and medium versions. Low and medium might have fewer bones to account for simpler model geometry. When making the high version they might have deemed a walk fast and walk slow animation unnecessary as the standard walk appeared fine.

 

[Callahan]

Probably uses different more smooth animations than the low and medium versions. Low and medium might have fewer bones to account for simpler model geometry. When making the high version they might have deemed a walk fast and walk slow animation unnecessary as the standard walk appeared fine.

In this case the Tc has same body skeleton.Only bones missing are the face animation related like jaw, cheek, eyebrows...
It's more a mistake either they forgot to add this animation in the high quality version.Or it wasn't used and they forgot to remove it from the lower quality model.

 

[Solu9]

Oh there it is.
That run animation is kinda nice though. I guess it's only usable in maps if the player have their settings on medium.

 

[PurgeandFire]

He's had that animation as far as I can remember, so I don't think it is anything recent. It is interesting that it is only the medium quality model though. Perhaps it is another relic of the past of what Blizzard originally planned for their models.

 

[GreeN!X]

That TC looks scary when running..

BTW, why is that model huge? I mean WC3 ingame models are usually just around 100-500 kb.

Is it because of that single anim?

 

[Callahan]

No it's because it's an mdl file.

 

[NhazUl]

Nice find, Callahan. Probably they decided that the hi-res model is too heavy and the removal of the animation could compensate.

Also, from an aesthetical point of view, Tauren are just larger. That means that a walking tauren chieftain would move at the same speed as a running orc or human (280-350 units per second (I'm suspecting the units to be in-game centimeters @.@) - these are the default boundaries of "fast" movement speed). Perhaps they could have kept the animation as "Walk Very Fast" but I think movement speed tags other than "Fast" don't work.

 

[PROXY]

It would be interesting if there are other hidden things like that, speaking of whatever origin this came from.

 

[General Frank]

Oh hell yeah.
Wouldn't it be great if someone could find the commandbutton.mdx thingy.

 

[NhazUl]

Oh hell yeah.
Wouldn't it be great if someone could find the commandbutton.mdx thingy.

Now that I found my old thread about that (I've been trying to find btncommand.mdx for 4 or 5 years now) - where did all of you find the WC3 Grand Prix cars? Maybe the btncommand.mdx is there too...

Guys, this game is more than a decade old now and we're still trying to dissect it...

 

[General Frank]

Now that I found my old thread about that (I've been trying to find btncommand.mdx for 4 or 5 years now) - where did all of you find the WC3 Grand Prix cars? Maybe the btncommand.mdx is there too...

Guys, this game is more than a decade old now and we're still trying to dissect it...

All the GP Cars are in the patch mpq. But you need an edited listfile to natively see them.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Holy cow, Fast-running Tauren? That's so crazy. I echo the above comment; "why in the world would 'less' detail be found on the 'high detail' model? (considering lack of an animation to be 'lesser detail'). Feh.

Also, "BTNCommand.mdx"? Whazzat?

Also also, I was wondering why I'd never seen the Grand Prix cars in my "mpq-diving". Crazy.

Guys, this game is more than a decade old now and we're still trying to dissect it...

Amazing, isn't it?

 

[NhazUl]

BTNCommand.mdx is supposed to be the model that the WC3 icons use in the game interface. Or so it says under "Game interface" in WE. However, several people (including Frank and me) have been trying to find it around the MPQs for years, and noone still has.

 

[General Frank]

Yeah. If we could find it we might have a chance to create team coloured icons. But it seems that this stuff is 'hard-coded' or that we might be searching the the wrong direction.

 

[Hermit]

It would be interesting if there are other hidden things like that

I know this is also kinda off topic, but I remember that all Murloc models from Reign of Chaos Low and Medium MPQ have the Cannibalize (Stand Channel) animation, but all High quality Murlocs(except one) don't have them. And it's really odd that none of the TFT expansion Murlocs kept that animation.