Saving and Loading

[Nestharus]

gy this please

 

[Nestharus]

Reserved

 

[PurgeandFire]

Great stuff, well explained.

Wish I had the time to help, but this tut does the system good justice. ~Approved.

 

[Arisato]

if only save load can be made in GUI

 

[Nestharus]

You can make this stuff GUI too, it'd just be insane ;D.

If you read the tut, you understand that a lot of it is just math. If you use the BigInt lib, you can make your own save/load system pretty easily in GUI, but Encoder is as good as it gets, so it's better to make a GUI interface using Encoder =).

 

[Arisato]

if you are a very nice guy, make me 1 system , no just kidding
( i hope you make 1 some time)

 

[Nestharus]

An interface is map specific, hence why I haven't done one.

 

[D4RK_G4ND4LF]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illeism
which part do you think is true for you?

awesome tutorial
larned a lot

 

[Nestharus]

Update information on Encoder.create to reflect Encoder 2.0.2.1

 

[-Bloody Hound-]

Wow man, this is amazing i didn't really know that this kind of stuff's exist. ^_^
You got me interested, surely i will have hard times study this shitload of information.
I mean i understand a lot of things here but i think i read too much info at once.
This is awesome.
*excited face*

 

[Nestharus]

Updated to reflect Encoder 3

 

[The General]

is there a gui version?

 

[Nestharus]

of what?

 

[D4RK_G4ND4LF]

is there a gui version?

no
there is not

 

[Rian Putra]

I do not understanddd
:'(

 

[Nestharus]

What don't you understand? : )

 

[Rian Putra]

What don't you understand? : )

every thing you write in this thread...

 

[Nestharus]

So you don't even get the unit type ids, like 'Hpal'?

 

[Nestharus]

Updated to edition 2. This goes over the latest in save/load techniques and explains things better in the compression chapters.

 

[GhostWolf]

That's quite a good post. Good thing you actually explain the things done by the libraries rather then "Use the library to do X", which is what you usually do.

Good job.

 

[Darklycan51]

i don't understand a fuck , why this shit needs to be so complicated..

 

[Nestharus]

Updated the interactive tutorial to include tons of new information and demonstrations ;D.

Catalog design is now talked about. The only thing left to really discuss is version control architecture, but ehh ;p, that's easy ^)^.


It also includes tons of save/load snippets so that you can try different things out : D.

 

[Hashjie]

I really like this tutorial, it is easilly understandable and very well explained. However there is still one thing that struck me.

How can I see the actual numbers of the raw id of an object? I know that it is stored as ascii 256 but even if I put the table next to it: http://www.flexcomm.com/library/ASCII256.htm

I can't see how these dots are connected.
Would you care explaining how you got these numbers?

(It might also be usefull adding the ascii table inside the tutorial if it is connected in any way)

STANDARD ASCII (0-127)

STANDARD ASCII (0-127)	dec
Null	0
Start of heading (SOH)	1
Start of text (STX)	2
End of text (ETX)	3
End of transmit (EOT)	4
Enquiry (ENQ)	5
Acknowledge (ACK)	6
Audible bell (BEL)	7
Backspace (BS)	8
Horizontal tab (HT)	9
Line feed (LF)	10
Vertical tab (VT)	11
Form feed (FF)	12
Carriage return (CR)	13
Shift out (SO)	14
Shift in (SI)	15
Data link escape (DLW)	16
Device control 1 (DC1)	17
Device control 2 (DC2)	18
Device control 3 (DC3)	19
Device control 4 (DC4)	20
Neg. acknowledge (NAK)	21
Synchronous idle (SYM)	22
End trans. Block (ETB)	23
Cancel (CAN)	24
End of medium (EM)	25
Substitution (SUB)	26
Escape (ESC)	27
File separator (PS)	28
Group separator (GS)	29
Record separator (RS)	30
Unit separator (US)	31
sp	32
!	33
"	34
#	35
$	36
%	37
&	38
'	39
(	40
)	41
*	42
+	43
,	44
-	45
.	46
/	47
0	48
1	49
2	50
3	51
4	52
5	53
6	54
7	55
8	56
9	57
:	58
;	59
<	60
=	61
>	62
?	63
@	64
A	65
B	66
C	67
D	68
E	69
F	70
G	71
H	72
I	73
J	74
K	75
L	76
M	77
N	78
O	79
P	80
Q	81
R	82
S	83
T	84
U	85
V	86
W	87
X	88
Y	89
Z	90
[	91
\	92
]	93
^	94
_	95
`	96
a	97
b	98
c	99
d	100
e	101
f	102
g	103
h	104
i	105
j	106
k	107
l	108
m	109
n	110
o	111
p	112
q	113
r	114
s	115
t	116
u	117
v	118
w	119
x	120
y	121
z	122
{	123
|	124
}	125
~	126
¦ DEL	127

EDIT: lol I didn't have to make this apparantly xD

 

[Nestharus]

char*256+char2 etc for all 4 chars. They are combined into 1 number. You can use the ascii lib to convert an integer to an ascii string if you want to see the ascii representation of the number. To do that, int-int/256*256 is the first char, int/256, repeat until u get all 4 chars out ; ).

Displaying 'hpea' displays it in base 10 format, which is 'h'*256+'e' etc. I displayed it in base 10 purposefully to show that 'hpea' was not "hpea" and that it has an actual base 10 value to it ;p.

 

[Hashjie]

char*256+char2 etc for all 4 chars. They are combined into 1 number. You can use the ascii lib to convert an integer to an ascii string if you want to see the ascii representation of the number. To do that, int-int/256*256 is the first char, int/256, repeat until u get all 4 chars out ; ).

Displaying 'hpea' displays it in base 10 format, which is 'h'*256+'e' etc. I displayed it in base 10 purposefully to show that 'hpea' was not "hpea" and that it has an actual base 10 value to it ;p.

Thank you for the explenation. I guess that when using this equation in order to convert it to base 10 it would need no help from the actual ascii table then xD?
My work on the table in my previous post was for nothing I can still make the second table if anyone is interested... xD

 

[Nestharus]

Btw, big question.

Did you actually get through this entire tutorial up through the final lesson and all of the catalog lessons? o-o

 

[Hashjie]

Actually I stopped at Base Conversion, hence my question :S
I did understand everything so far so I'll go through with this another time.

I'll walk this through when I have more time.

 

[Nestharus]

Updated the SaveInventory snippet so that it would not corrupt codes saving inventories with items that can't be saved.

 

[Nestharus]

Fixed small typo in BigInt

 

[Nestharus]

Fixed another bug in BigInt ;o

 

[Avahor]

Hi Nestharus.
i think it's really cool all your work.
about inserting numbers with different base in a colection. inserting greater bases at the begining and lower bases at the end helps to reduce the final number size?
in a common multiplication does not. but with the "adding" number i got the doubt...

 

[Nestharus]

Well, no, it's this scenario right here

Let's say you have a max of 1,000,000 and you are storing the number 6. After that is the max 20 storing the number 8.

0*1000001 + 6 = 6
6*21 + 8 = 134

Vs

0*21 + 8 = 8
8*1000001 + 6 = 8000014

 

[Kong]

lol nuclear science..

 

[Nestharus]

Ok... so... since I haven't really gotten any feedback on this and there are now 313 downloads on the latest version, is everyone doing ok with this, or are people getting lost?

If anyone's getting lost, what points are difficult? : )

 

[Avahor]

Hi nestharus...

i'm currently using your save-load-code system on my rpg map (enthahsaras tales) and works perfectly.

the data that is stored is:
- 12 slots for item inventory with max=1501
- 12slots for items chargues with max=51
- maximun exp=980000
- 3 atributed points max=1381
- 100000/10 for gold
- 1000 for lumber
- hero type max=61

i implemented your system about two months ago, today still work cool and perfectly.

 

[Nestharus]

Well, I was asking more about the tutorial on save/load ; )

 

[edo494]

I have gone through the whole map and I must say Im amazed.

Its great, its interactive and I learned a lot.
The way it works is little bit harder to understand for people like me who have no experience it this but I understood all lessions, only got a little bit too lazy to calculate in later lessions

Very good map overall

 

[MrHobby53]

Be LV
Be Latvian xD

 

[BPower]

Just found this. It's simply amazing.

 

[Nestharus]

Just found this. It's simply amazing.

It's supposedly the best tutorial ever written for wc3

 

[Nestharus]

gy this please