Round Table of Arkain

[Chaosy]

Guys, guys.. I had the most awesome tactic when I played that chapter.

Spoiler

or every chapter

best tip ever

 

[Mechanical Man]

Finished the first chapter, it feels a bit too long as a first chapter, when the player should be familarized with the game. Although is not needed, as it doesn't differ much from original humans. Other remark would be terrain, especially the fact you used the crappiest tileset, Lordaeron summer, while you have better ones at your disposal, for example Village tileset is plain better.

 

[CY The UnGodly]

Seriously though chapter 7 on the orc side gave me solid mental breakdown XD but anyways I love the series but one question about the orc side: it takes place before the the human side right?

 

[Shar Dundred]

@Motivation: Heh.

@Cheats: Reading so much about you guys using cheats makes me consider removing them. >

@CY: Glad you like it. The first takes place ten years before. Everything else at the same time BUT you have to remember thst the stories are different, not like the WC3 campaigns.

 

[doceshivas]

Chapter 7 :
Play normal, do upgrades techs and destroy the archmage base first, then build exp and build towers next go for lb base (The optional quest)
Now instead of moving in for the middle base build 2 exp and bank at 50 food (And build lots of defenses on all exps)
I recommend something along 50k gold, basically in the next phase you everything you ''click'' must be broughtable
Leave tp and tiny great hall on inventory
When youre ready (Preferably when you have a lot of units production buildings) go in for the kill
After destroying that base kill the footman that comes out of it, leave a sentry ward there and retreat your army
You dont want to fight them in the middle because the enemy armys will stack there and you will get nowhere
Instead keep watching throught the sentry ward and when the armys ''split'' you run in with your army
Start making your way to gray base, queue units from the base and for now ignore the towers on the walls
When you reach gray base you want destroy the cannon towers next to the entrance
When you got inside immediately place your great hall and queue peons and start making towers and units productions buildings while you fight
After you defeat gray and build on his area things become much more easier
Speaking of elites : Clan elites are much weaker than their humans counterparts, no defend poison and critical

 

[Blue_Spartan]

Wow this looks epic. Looking forward playing this because I love the orc race. I hope you include a part of the orc's history. Best of Luck ^_^.

 

[DD Mikasa]

Seriously though chapter 7 on the orc side gave me solid mental breakdown XD but anyways I love the series but one question about the orc side: it takes place before the the human side right?

Have you played the dwarven mision on Human camping ?
I tryed it once on hard...I regret that decision even today...

 

[CY The UnGodly]

Have you played the dwarven mision on Human camping ?
I tryed it once on hard...I regret that decision even today...

Yeah I did it was hard... huge pain on the behind lol but I managed to get through.... I just spammed Rifles Mortars and Gryphons... and few knights.... oh yeah I think that gryph9ns do magic damage on this campaign I just let them destroy the towers and burrows since they have heavy armor...

 

[CY The UnGodly]

Trust me, he likes to make people go crazy with insane difficulty chapters xD

I get what you mean and no joke I raged at some point of the chapters since they were so hard lol I just calmed down and thinked of a strategy on how to kick the enemy's butt and shout at the success of winning lol

 

[DD Mikasa]

Yeah I did it was hard... huge pain on the behind lol but I managed to get through.... I just spammed Rifles Mortars and Gryphons... and few knights.... oh yeah I think that gryph9ns do magic damage on this campaign I just let them destroy the towers and burrows since they have heavy armor...

Ye that was my strategy as well the problem was that the purple clan has those dam spellcasters and you dont.I couldent dispell thos god dam skeletons and other spells.Oh sinc you are new whith the rules.Double post is not allowed just edit the post if you have to

 

[doceshivas]

I cant find the second optional quest from chapter 8 is this bug or its because of my choices ?

 

[Shar Dundred]

I cant find the second optional quest from chapter 8 is this bug or its because of my choices ?

Spoiler

The first optional quest is activated by defeating the first wave. The second one seems to be bugged. Will take a look at it.

 

[CY The UnGodly]

:goblin_sleep

Ye that was my strategy as well the problem was that the purple clan has those dam spellcasters and you dont.I couldent dispell thos god dam skeletons and other spells.Oh sinc you are new whith the rules.Double post is not allowed just edit the post if you have to

Yeah that purple clan is a litlle b*tch well those rifle men and mortars came in handy thabks to the spellcaster's armor lol and I forgot about double posting I remembered it whe u reminded me XD srry will never happen again

EDIT: @shar: in chapter 8 I annahilated the blue undead base in prior to the first optional quest.... when I completed it I lost control over the Warlock.... is it suppose to do that

 

[Kasrkin]

No, that wasn't supposed to happen to him and I told Shar about it earlier so he'll fix it when he can.

I just killed him and revived him to fix it.

 

[Mechanical Man]

From what I saw until now, this campaign look soooo Mathias Chonicles

 

[Sclammerz]

From what I saw until now, this campaign look soooo Mathias Chonicles

What you intended to mean?

 

[Mechanical Man]

Long hard maps, meh terrain, using original races with minor changes and barely any imports, interesting story, ....

 

[buyingcoats]

Oh yes, mission 8 I left a few structures alive in the purple undead base and built a large base in the remains. During the orc cave mission though I got attack messages in the base and Vanessa died (I killed the undead necropolis for the optional mission btw). When I got control back most of the base was dead, Vanessa was revived at my main base at lvl 10 but missing serathil. Probably not intended.

 

[Theoden of KoMe]

Got to admit that i didn't expect my story line to end that harsh Poor Theo.....A bloody orcish ramble took down my castle meh.....

As for chapter 8:
optional quest 2 didn't came out at all..
I lost control of the warlock as well
Was it me or the 2 orc chieftains mission was too easy ???
and i really love the story line so far ....you make me feel like i watch game of thrones men !!!!

 

[Shar Dundred]

Both optional quests have been fixed. It'll take a while before I can update, however.

Got to admit that i didn't expect my story line to end that harsh Poor Theo.....A bloody orcish ramble took down my castle meh.....

They didn't make it easy for the Orcs.

Spoiler

Well, Theo had his comeback in the finale of the Human Book - either as ally or enemy.

and i really love the story line so far ....you make me feel like i watch game of thrones men !!!!

Thank you very much, be prepared for much more.

 

[DD Mikasa]

So yeah.After i destroyed the blue undead base i lost controle of the warlock
The second optional quest dident show up at all.
@Theoden: Don't worry Gen.BloodClaw will probably give you another Castel he is really generous whith his loyal subjects

 

[MogulKahn]

When we can expect official release of the Orc First Book?

 

[Shar Dundred]

When we can expect official release of the Orc First Book?

It depends on how long the final chapter's creation will take, but most likely in the next few weeks.

 

[Theoden of KoMe]

"DD_Mikasa I'm a bloody puppet of Bloodclaw dude....he will propably give me chain neckless to control me better than he does

 

[DD Mikasa]

@Theoden of Kome:Well i guess thats a part of the contract.You get to be on Shar camping
He gets to do what ever he wants whith you're character
But hey look it this way...You gonna get stronger whith the neckless and you gonna get popular among hivers
Besides i have a feeling that Shar has something big for you're character in the upcomming human book.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I really hate being the one who has to tell you this, but well...:
At the moment, the features aren't planned to get a bigger part in the story. Mostly, they're making two cameos.

Spoiler

By the way, remember the last chapter of the Human Book? That was Theoden's comeback after the defeat. Some events are the same. I'll most likely make a list of stuff that always happens.

Spoiler

Kasrkin is an exception because of the fact that he's my tester and a great supporter of this project. Since Theoden is both still around and the very first supporter of this campaign (perhaps only because he noticed it first ;P ) I already considered making him appear some other times. I mean, Heinvers became a boss, so why not letting Theo lead some other forces? We'll see.
@Heinvers since I know he'll read this sooner or later: Prepare for your next appearance! >

 

[doceshivas]

Are you guys refering to the amulet/medal/whatever Rangul shows to Vanessa ? It cant be of Theoden
Rangul was not present in the battle yet he is the one who shows Vanessa so it cant be of Theoden
Only Zairmak was there but since they came together and it was alredy in Rangul possession so my theory its not from Theoden

 

[Kasrkin]

Admit it, you like to torment me .>.>

He likes to torment you?!

SIR.. SIR.. NO

 

[Heinvers]

He likes to torment you?!

SIR.. SIR.. NO

Oh hi tormented no. 2.

How fares thee?

 

[Shar Dundred]

@Heinvers: You wouldn't deny me to do the only thing that makes me happy, would you, Heinvers? ;P

Spoiler

Honestly though - for one second at least - you know by now that I'm just kidding here.

@doceshivas: It'd be a major spoiler at the moment if I told you who had worn the necklace, but I can reveal this to you: It wasn't Theoden.

 

[Kasrkin]

Oh hi tormented no. 2.

How fares thee?

I fare well, how 'bout thee?

 

[DD Mikasa]

@doceshivas: It'd be a major spoiler at the moment if I told you who had worn the necklace, but I can reveal this to you: It wasn't Theoden.

Probably Lera the Huntress,I played and then replayed the chapter (to ensure that name wasent random like the case whith the orc blademaster who had my nickname) and the Teal Dark ranger had the same name

 

[CY The UnGodly]

I got a question about this campaign series.... is there any secrets in any of the maps there??? If there are I wasn't paying attention XD plus I love to see secrets in any one of the campaign maps.... gives me more time to play the map cause of finding it lol

 

[doceshivas]

Probably Lera the Huntress,I played and then replayed the chapter (to ensure that name wasent random like the case whith the orc blademaster who had my nickname) and the Teal Dark ranger had the same name

Now u got me cause Lera was Salana apprentice
I suppose that teal Dark Ranger is the one that was killed on chapter 2 (Orc book) by the lich ? Her name was Saphira
That can only means that destroying Lera base on the human book in the canon choice

Oh and btw Shar im having a difficulties in relation to the storyline more especifically Deathbreeze defeat at the hands of elves/dwarfs
If chapter 6 Sasrogarn was battling Merlon forces and chapter 7 he was fighting the kome knights and Gardon at the end of the chapter states that theyre fighting a traitor soon
This suggest that chapter 7 on orc book happens almost before the imperial fight at which point Salana and Zorin would had left that area to find their allys
My best theory is that Sasrogarn got his ass kicked off-screen and then went of to fight Merlon forces imo the only period of time where it makes sense (At least for me)
So when did Sasrogarn as his forces got beated ? After chapter 6 or before ?

 

[Shar Dundred]

I got a question about this campaign series.... is there any secrets in any of the maps there??? If there are I wasn't paying attention XD plus I love to see secrets in any one of the campaign maps.... gives me more time to play the map cause of finding it lol

No, there aren't any big secrets at the moment.

Now u got me cause Lera was Salana apprentice
I suppose that teal Dark Ranger is the one that was killed on chapter 2 (Orc book) by the lich ? Her name was Saphira
That can only means that destroying Lera base on the human book in the canon choice

Oh and btw Shar im having a difficulties in relation to the storyline more especifically Deathbreeze defeat at the hands of elves/dwarfs
If chapter 6 Sasrogarn was battling Merlon forces and chapter 7 he was fighting the kome knights and Gardon at the end of the chapter states that theyre fighting a traitor soon
This suggest that chapter 7 on orc book happens almost before the imperial fight at which point Salana and Zorin would had left that area to find their allys
My best theory is that Sasrogarn got his ass kicked off-screen and then went of to fight Merlon forces imo the only period of time where it makes sense (At least for me)
So when did Sasrogarn as his forces got beated ? After chapter 6 or before ?

Spoiler

Yes, you're facing Lera here. Killing her is canon.

Gardon knew that he'd be fighting Genethas at some point. This chapter happens a short time before Gardon appears at the camp, the Interlude where you choose whether to join Gardon or Genethas. Gardon suspected Genethas for a long time because the latter was the only one to survive the Voidwar.
Sasrogarn encountered the Dwarves and Elves after he destroyed the outpost and he attacked the outpost after Castle Kome was destroyed.
You shouldn't compare the books of different races too much. Merlon died in the Orc Book, for example, while he survived in the Human Book. Also, the Human Chapter 7 has been replaced with Orc Chapter 6. Salomar and Aedale never helped Merlon and got their ship somewhere else.

 

[Theoden of KoMe]

So it's clear atm.The neckless wasn't Theo's.It was Merlon's then cause he is another lieutenant of Gardon.

 

[Shar Dundred]

The canon choices of the First Human Book have been added to the Author's Notes.

 

[DD Mikasa]

Pardon me of my Ignorance.But what dose Canon choice mean.English not my mother language

 

[doceshivas]

Pardon me of my Ignorance.But what dose Canon choice mean.English not my mother language

Canon
A term used especially within gaming communties to differentiate between the official storyline (= canon) and everything which is not, like fanfiction, fanvids, etc

 

[Deleted member 239421]

Is the total number if missions 9? I clicked on the demo and it says there will be 11 missions. If there are only 9 missions I might as well wait until the full version is released.

 

[Chaosy]

Not all missions have a chapter button.

Chapter 1
Chapter 2
Cinematic map
Chapter 3

So basically there are 9 playable maps and 2 cinematic maps.

 

[Shar Dundred]

The First Human book has been updated. Changelog.

Special thanks to Kasrkin who tested this version!

 

[Kasrkin]

Update: Don't download the new version some problems have come up for the Human Book update.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Update: Don't download the new version some problems have come up for the Human Book update.

This has been fixed, you can download the new version now.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Progress report:
The final chapter is almost finished. Expect the release soon.

 

[Kasrkin]

We're nearing the end folks, Shar take center stage!

 

[Shar Dundred]

Indeed, we're VERY close to the end of this book. Thanks Kasrkin.

Version 0.80 released

Version 0.80

General:
- Clan Elites are stronger now

Chapter Five:
- Rath will no longer sell items he had worn

Chapter Seven:
- Rath will no longer sell items he had worn

Chapter Eight:
- The heroes will no longer sell items they had worn

Chapter Nine:
- Completed Chapter Nine

Epilogue:
- Completed Epilogue

The final chapter and epilogue along with some other fixes. I'll fix some stuff and release it afterwards. Expect news about the next Book soon!

 

[DD Mikasa]

Great!!!Shar

Will post a review later on...
Fast and efficient that must be you're moto
Already prepared for the Undead book.

 

[doceshivas]

Yes final chapter and epilogue
Final chapter was too easy this map have a lot of potential to become as hard as level 7 but for some reason my base was not attacked not even once by ground units only by flyers that were easily defendable
But the storyline is getting confusing i mean Merlon died ok but Salomar is alive ?!? (Ok not so alive after the chapter)

Now were going to discover what the vile dead have in plans for the orc clans. Why manipulating those brutes ? What are they after ? Will they have plans for world domination ?
Watch on next episode same hour same channel

 

[Shar Dundred]

Final chapter was too easy this map have a lot of potential to become as hard as level 7 but for some reason my base was not attacked not even once by ground units only by flyers that were easily defendable

So, I fixed one AI bug so that another one could appear? Damnit. Will fix that, you should be attacked by more than the flyers.

But the storyline is getting confusing i mean Merlon died ok but Salomar is alive ?!? (Ok not so alive after the chapter)

You shouldn't compare the stories of the different books too much. You have to treat them like different stories.

Spoiler

In the Human Book, the Dreadlord killed Salomar if Aedale absorbed both artifacts. In the Orc Book, he didn't really appear and instead Aedale took control over the men and made them attack Salomar while she went to Lisara. In the Orc Book, Salomar escaped and fled to Selior while he died in the Human Book - again, only if Aedale took the artifacts.
And Merlon is still alive in the Human Book, they are different storylines in the same world with some events that are the same. Who knows what will happen in the Undead Book? They could all die or survive. The stories are different.