Rise of Civilizations v 3.13a

[tastywater]

Love the map, love single player. Held until modern age, when I realised I had built my walls wrong, making the AI come at the wrong side

Things I would like to see in the future for the map:
Goverment styles: You should be able to select things like Monarchy, Communism, Capitalism and so on.
Culture: Just an Idea, you select a culture in the beginning like asian, european, viking so on. This gives you access to units unique to your culture, for example a asian culture would be able to train Samurai units, Kamikaze Planes and more. A european Culture would have access to Longbowmen, Spartans, Holy Knights.

Also some recon units would be appreciated.

Good Luck With the Map

Edit:
+ Rep for map, it's awesome.

 

[Tleno]

Love the map, love single player. Held until modern age, when I realised I had built my walls wrong, making the AI come at the wrong side

Things I would like to see in the future for the map:
Goverment styles: You should be able to select things like Monarchy, Communism, Capitalism and so on.
Culture: Just an Idea, you select a culture in the beginning like asian, european, viking so on. This gives you access to units unique to your culture, for example a asian culture would be able to train Samurai units, Kamikaze Planes and more. A european Culture would have access to Longbowmen, Spartans, Holy Knights.

Also some recon units would be appreciated.

Good Luck With the Map

Edit:
+ Rep for map, it's awesome.

No, he culture thing would make the came quite problematic to look logical... but goverment would be nice, altough used in many maps already and quite banal you know... I say more wonders, those are the real fun!
Oh, few wonders I've came up with!
-Hadron colider (modern era, teleports units or creates a black hole)
-Manhatan project (ww2 era, allows you to use advanced types of bombers)
-Great Wall of China (Can make all buildings around it undestructible plus its really hard to destroy. I mean really hard.)
-Microsoft corporation (Sorry, but that would be really fun... it increases your income plus it might spy on enemy buildings)
-Kreml/Mi6/KGB HQ/FBI/pentagon (allows you to train secret agents, the most effective stealth units ever)

 

[Acorn511]

Wonders will be coming soon.

For single player, I do realize that walls may screw the attack move command from the creeps up. If all else fails, I might have to make computer players be able to pass through walls with a trigger and as soon as they attack a unit or recieve damage, they lose the abilty to pass them.

I realize the places that glitch up single player tend to be the ledges. Building in one of the 4 corners or top, bottom, left, right middle bases should work fine.

About recon units, many units have permanent stealth such as the rogue, assasin, condor. Of course they can still be detected by guard towers and above, which have truesight but they can get most of the job done.

Any suggestions would be helpful too!

No, he culture thing would make the came quite problematic to look logical... but goverment would be nice, altough used in many maps already and quite banal you know... I say more wonders, those are the real fun!
Oh, few wonders I've came up with!
-Hadron colider (modern era, teleports units or creates a black hole)
-Manhatan project (ww2 era, allows you to use advanced types of bombers)
-Great Wall of China (Can make all buildings around it undestructible plus its really hard to destroy. I mean really hard.)
-Microsoft corporation (Sorry, but that would be really fun... it increases your income plus it might spy on enemy buildings)
-Kreml/Mi6/KGB HQ/FBI/pentagon (allows you to train secret agents, the most effective stealth units ever)

About the wonders.

Hadron collider looks possible.
Here's my idea of what it does:

Basically, the collider will have an ability that does nothing but target friendly units.
As soon as the collider targets a friendly unit, a dummy will cast mass teleport on targetted location.
Then it teleports all the units.

Example trigger (ignore the leaks, just a basic sense of what it is)

Event: Hadron collider casts an ability
Condition: casted ability equals teleport
Action:
-Create one "teleporter" with expiration timer of 10 seconds for triggering player at location of triggering unit
-order "teleporter" to use mass teleportation at location of targetted unit

Manhattan Project- Unlikely. There's already the b-29 bomber from the airport and giving more powerful bombers might make it a bit imba.

Great Wall- A wonder similar to it already exists. Tower of babel gives +10 armor to all buildings you own and it has a long range attack with dps similar to that of a gattling gun.

Microsoft- LOL. I'll try to find a nice office building model to go along with it

KGB/FBI etc- Hmm. ctu already exists, can spy on the whole map periodically, and summon special ops along with other units. How would these ones be different?

 

[yamigosaya]

This is Similar To Rise of Nations But It has No Rocket Silo

 

[Tleno]

So what?
Oh, I think that after latest patch the map desn't seem to work right...

 

[Acorn511]

So what?
Oh, I think that after latest patch the map desn't seem to work right...

Wasn't a patch issue. Apparently the map got corrupted while saving on Jassnewgen. Re-saved it and now it should be working correctly.

This is Similar To Rise of Nations But It has No Rocket Silo

Particle Cannon. Same function


This update was solely to fix up the corrupted map. The next update with new wonders will be coming shortly.

 

[Assassins-Creed]

I'm wondering if what I'm about to say is a major bug or its just me,on my screen I killed everyone in the game and when I left I wondered if Scarlet_Crusade would be my friend,he and another person said that they were still alive and said I just left the game without touching any of there stuff,is this a bug or is it just me?

Nevermind my bot just desynced.

 

[Hugomath]

Hey I would like to suggest a new airplane: A P-51 Mustang or Spitfire Mk. 1 [or any WW2 Airplane] because that WW1 Airplane its a kind of obsolete when every got B-29s and Stukas ''/. Also maybe one of the tanks of General Frank would be cool xD.

 

[Tleno]

Hmmm... what about an a "internet" wonder? There is wonder like this in Civilizations 4 you know... it allows all players (Or shall we say all your allies) to share technologies and automatically recieve the ones other researched.

 

[Acorn511]

That might be a bit hard to do and would require extensive triggers saving every upgrade a player makes. Also, allies don't quite stay allies.

 

[G_master]

Is version 1.62(http://www.epicwar.com/maps/136429/) a fraudelent version?

 

[Luffy_299]

How does single player mode work?I cant move the screen when its single player.

 

[Hugomath]

It simple: It will start if there is just one user playing, and creeps will start to spawn and attack your base. Lol I don't know what is the problem. I don't get any problems when playing in Single Player mode.

 

[Luffy_299]

I CANT build base.My camera is stuck somewhere in the map.Oh its ok it was old ver xD

 

[Acorn511]

I never found that error before. Though this map is unprotected and some people play around with the editor (aka the chinese version). I'll be uploading a new version soon with lumber tweaked a bit.

Is version 1.62(http://www.epicwar.com/maps/136429/) a fraudelent version?

It's not made by me but I don't mind and this map is open source. It's the same thing except the person translated it to russian.

 

[TheCloust]

WHat?:????

Man, i love rise of civilizations, but please, PLEASE, correct the description, i cant understand anything!.

I'm playing the 1.74 so i saw that some islands don't have trees, i started and landed in one of those islands and then i was lost, i didnt understand how to make the transport ship.

You must pust trees in all islands and correct the description.

The terrain is great!

 

[Acorn511]

TheCloust, 1.74 isn't made by me. I always keep the latest version on the Hive Workshop. Those versions made by Rutep/Cristal are RUSSIAN TRANSLATIONS, not the official version, which has no water.

 

[TheCloust]

??

In hive work shop, i have just found this version the 1.70, where are the other versions?, thanks

Oh, could you do a better terrain for the map? maybe put some water. . .

The rest, the game is perfect, i think its very balanced.^^

1 thing, so the original versions are just with your name?

And what was the last version original made by you?

Thanks man, hope you reply this ^^

The Skins are great, models too.

 

[Hugomath]

The Hiveworkshop maps are deleted when a new update come, for example: a Rise of Civilizations v1.69 will be deleted when a v1.70 is uploaded.

 

[TheCloust]

Oh, thanks hugo, why have you canceled the world war 2 project? i liked the first one ^^


Acorn, but in epic there are some versions upper than 1.70 are they all ''fake'' then?

 

[Hugomath]

Lol which first one? I actually did the map until 30% or something, then I quit, since I lost everything after a problem with my computer... aaand because I too was lazy to make all again

As Acorn said, they are translated to Russian, but that doesn't make them fake. Just... same map but in Russian.

 

[TheCloust]

Oh, now i understand ^^

Acorn, translate to english that version that the terrain is the global map, it's really cool that map and if u do, put the trees ^^

What i have understood is that version its same as yours but with different terrain

I love rise of civilizations, really cool strategic game.

I have a few sugestions:

In the intro (video), explain the basic things that newbies need to do (like every time be upgrading the age) and how its done and etc. . .

Thanks for your atention
^^

 

[Acorn511]

Oh, now i understand ^^

Acorn, translate to english that version that the terrain is the global map, it's really cool that map and if u do, put the trees ^^

What i have understood is that version its same as yours but with different terrain

I love rise of civilizations, really cool strategic game.

I have a few sugestions:

In the intro (video), explain the basic things that newbies need to do (like every time be upgrading the age) and how its done and etc. . .

Thanks for your atention
^^

Oh, to clarify, those map with the World Map have nothing to do with me. I don't speak russian at all.

The latest official version is 1.70, which has no water. Personally, I was against including ships because of the nature of the map. Large army battles are hard to initate with transports carrying only 12 units at a time.

A lot of the versions on epic war are not made by me. If you see maps by rutep and cristal or etc, those are their own versions of my map.

Since this map is open source and unprotected, there would be a lot of other versions. The chinese version is sadly more popular than my english version but w/e!

 

[copsychus]

Will u update it again?

I see version 1.75d on epicwar with your name and other guys.

I don't know. Is it a real version or not because the map is russia version.

 

[Luffy_299]

Its 100% fake, man.Check what ver we have here on hive and you gonna understand.

 

[Carter_117]

NNNNOOO I CRASHHHH!!! well not crash but i freeze like 5-10 mins in... mac problem for this map? and also for what its worth this map seemse pretty good for what ive seen... but i did start a mini-game called how many people can you kill before you freeze.

 

[Acorn511]

I believe some mac users are having problems earlier related to the custom icons. If you can tell me at what point you crash, it would be helpful.

 

[shentong1932]

Title:

Weakness
Stupid and uninteligent orge STUCK at the fence at the right.I was playing single player and at bottom-left zone.
Riflemans and machine gunners can destroy tank.
AI is too fast.When i was at WW2ERA, the unit of AI is already at Digital age.
Strengths
The wonder is nice.
I like the model.Especially the model of the sniper.
The terrain looks good.

Suggestion
1.Hero with some skill and it can upgrade to a better hero.
2.[Throw Grenade]skill for the machine gunner

Among all of those things, I will give you a rating of 4/5

 

[Tleno]

That's an idea. Machinegunners with first attack (shot bullets) can only attack organic units, and with second attack (shot grenade) attacks Mechanical.

 

[shentong1932]

Thanks,But Isit [Throw Grenade] instead of [Shot Grenade]?
Your Signature are great.
Mine one is still on working.

 

[Tleno]

Thank you. Nice zergling avatar you got there.

Oh, and about AI, you could ake some commands or somethig to slow down/fasten up or somwthing like that with AI advancing.
Like you can make player choose at begining with what difficulty he wants AI to advance. Current one should be medium. Easy and Hard should be twice faster/slower.

 

[shentong1932]

Erm...
But there is no description about slowing down AI's tech?

 

[Tleno]

Well, everything can always be immproved.

 

[Acorn511]

Weakness
Stupid and uninteligent orge STUCK at the fence at the right.I was playing single player and at bottom-left zone.
Riflemans and machine gunners can destroy tank.
AI is too fast.When i was at WW2ERA, the unit of AI is already at Digital age.
Strengths
The wonder is nice.
I like the model.Especially the model of the sniper.
The terrain looks good.

Suggestion
1.Hero with some skill and it can upgrade to a better hero.
2.[Throw Grenade]skill for the machine gunner

Among all of those things, I will give you a rating of 4/5

Thanks for the feedback. I realize the ai is a bit lacking, mainly walls cause the ai to screw up. As for the ai teching, I'll add in a selection menu of easy, norm, hard to vary their tech speed. As of right now, you can type -increase or -decrease to modify their spawn.

I will greatly reduce piercing damage versus fortified armor to fix the rifleman problem.

Also, while the grenade is a decent idea, the unit model does not really allow for a decent grenade launcher animation...

 

[Magnet199]

sounds good testing now


EDIT: what the......wont work :S

 

[Acorn511]

sounds good testing now


EDIT: what the......wont work :S

Reuploaded. It should work...do you have the latest frozen throne patch?

 

[Magnet199]

ye i do, the E one right ?
im gonna test it now again

 

[Warcraft_Tester]

Your Video reminded me back in the old days where I used to build My own
Civilization map, because of this map I am going to make my own again.

 

[Tleno]

I like new AI, but hey, maybe you should like make it more challenging in some way, I mean after time it gets booring to just defend yourself, you could like create some giant undestructible fortress that will requite highest tech level units to attack it. Of course it gets spawned onkly if it's single player, also the enemies will get spawned next to it and destroying it measn victory. You can also try to make that each time the fortress and AI spawn zone get chosen from one of possible locations and the that area gets pinged. That would be fun.

 

[Symon]

I've played it a while, with friends and in SP but it gets boring after a short time... Also the Terrain is really bad and the buildding models aren't the best... And please REMOVE the ground textures!! That just looks aweful! I like that it has so much ages and things but it has too much different Units at the end... And the defences of u're base are too weak. With about 10 Nuke-Bombers a enemie can kill you instantly if you are not really prepared for something like this... And there are no AA-Guns are there??
I think with some more exertion the map could be a lot better.

 

[Acorn511]

I've played it a while, with friends and in SP but it gets boring after a short time... Also the Terrain is really bad and the buildding models aren't the best... And please REMOVE the ground textures!! That just looks aweful! I like that it has so much ages and things but it has too much different Units at the end... And the defences of u're base are too weak. With about 10 Nuke-Bombers a enemie can kill you instantly if you are not really prepared for something like this... And there are no AA-Guns are there??
I think with some more exertion the map could be a lot better.

Nuke Bombers are super slow though....you should be able to see them coming. The F22 is anti-air and can own nuke bombers pretty quickly.

Which building models would you like to see improved?

As for defenses, they're supposed to be strong in the beginning but weaken over time relative to units. That is to prevent early rushing.

Also, please explain? Which ground texture is ugly? The grass? The roads?

 

[Tleno]

I think he means those textures that appear under buildings.

 

[Symon]

Jea thats what I mean. And about the Nuke bombers, I think it's just too easy to use them. You just can fly into the enemie base with them... I think it would be better if you have to destroy some of the defences of the enemie before you can fly into the enemie base. Cause I got about 7-8 of these Destroyer-Robot things (of of course some other defences like towers and things too) and he came just with 4 Nukebombers and one of them did great damage to me. Jea I think its to easy with Nukebombers..
About the defences.. Mabye its only cause I'm a devensiv-Player but I think there sould be more and better towers/walls.

 

[Tleno]

About the bombers, maybe fighetrs/AA guns should like be able to someway weaken them, making them unable to drop bombs?

 

[Magnet199]

Map gr8
R+

 

[Anuraxia]

omg...just what i wnat to see, a game true the age of men(& women!) hope it vil be some more...um...evolving

 

[Acorn511]

omg...just what i wnat to see, a game true the age of men(& women!) hope it vil be some more...um...evolving

Ummm thanks?

 

[Shpartikus]

I've been playing quite a bit lately, and I've noticed that you have bushes in front of trees in a few places. Was it intended to block those trees from being harvested? (like one of the bases towards the bottom right).

Also, I really think the multi-rocket tanks could use a nerf.
Either less rockets per attack, or less damage. Where it stands they alone have destroyed entire bases even when the person was a few ages ahead of me.

Another thing, I think the food cost of additional cities should be lowered. Me and my friend tested a few other income strategies. And expanding with 2-3 extra bases + markets is the by FAR the worst way. Especially since you have to spend extra money to defend those, when they give less income anyway.

From curiousity, what happened to the promised new terrains way back?

 

[Acorn511]

Cities cost about 2 food now and higher grade cities cost like 1 food as of the latest version (1.72) rather than 10. The whole reason I added food cost to cities was because people on battlenet kept QQing about one guy taking all the gold mines early and owning everyone else.

I'm open to suggestions for new terrain, my terrainer that was going to do a major overhaul went MIA awhile back...
As for adding boats, I don't really like the idea since water gets in the way of major ground unit battles. I tested it out with an unofficial version I came across on epicwar. Some russian guy reterrained my whole map with water.

http://www.epicwar.com/maps/144792/

I might reduce the number of rockets to 3.

Again, thanks for the feedback!

 

[Shpartikus]

Ah, i've been playing 1.70 on the 'makemehost' bots. Probably explains the cities. I don't much want boats either, I like the way it is unit wise.

I'll most likely be hosting it a few more times looking for things to report.