Rise of Civilizations v 3.13a

[Tleno]

Why don't you try immprove terrainins by yourself? I mean there's enough information how to immprove terrains in Tutorials section...

 

[Acorn511]

Ah, i've been playing 1.70 on the 'makemehost' bots. Probably explains the cities. I don't much want boats either, I like the way it is unit wise.

I'll most likely be hosting it a few more times looking for things to report.

O? Makemehost bots? I could use one since my new router doesn't allow me to host. Quick question, when you play, do you still experience desynchs?

As for the terrain, I'll look into some tutorials. I'm a complete nub when it comes to making terrain.

 

[Shpartikus]

Desyncs aren't very common, but they do happen with the bots.
Of course, they happen with ALL bots.

I keep suggesting they get the latest version on the bots >_> but they have yet to.

 

[Sky Green]

I have to say this is awesome especially the Singleplayer mode nice!

 

[Tleno]

Yes, not much of maps can be prod of such singleplayer system. Though you could like immprove it someway, like by creating a fortress that upgrades over time, located near to AI spawn zone and by destroying it or them you win the singlepalyer mode?

 

[Sir Impala]

Hey, I've been playing this map with my friends and I love this map a lot! Superb! However, the most inconvenient thing about the map is when you upgrade your workers to a next level and then they stop...I wish they continue doing what they were doing.

Another thing is, if I scroll my mouse, the screen will go to the default zoom, can someone tell me how to zoom out back to the starting zoom? I really love this map a lot (maybe because I always advance a lot faster than my friends and then own them )!

By the way, here's a suggestion, you could maybe make the host limit the maximum age? Oh yeah, I found a mistake on the description, it's already v1.73 yet it's shown "THIS MAP IS OPEN SOURCE HOWEVER PLEASE NOTE, THE OFFICIAL VERSION IS ALWAYS ON THE HIVE WORKSHOP. 1.72 is the latest version!"

A very well job done, 5/5 and +rep!

 

[Acorn511]

Hey, I've been playing this map with my friends and I love this map a lot! Superb! However, the most inconvenient thing about the map is when you upgrade your workers to a next level and then they stop...I wish they continue doing what they were doing.

Another thing is, if I scroll my mouse, the screen will go to the default zoom, can someone tell me how to zoom out back to the starting zoom? I really love this map a lot (maybe because I always advance a lot faster than my friends and then own them )!

By the way, here's a suggestion, you could maybe make the host limit the maximum age? Oh yeah, I found a mistake on the description, it's already v1.73 yet it's shown "THIS MAP IS OPEN SOURCE HOWEVER PLEASE NOTE, THE OFFICIAL VERSION IS ALWAYS ON THE HIVE WORKSHOP. 1.72 is the latest version!"

A very well job done, 5/5 and +rep!

Thank you for the feedback! Always appreciated =D

When you upgrade workers, I had to add in a trigger to literally replace the unit with a new one. For some reason, if i just do a normal upgrade, like bear form, the new unit will not be able to build certain things. It's kinda weird and I'm not sure how to fix that.

There is a lot of commands for zooming. -default restores you back to the default zoom.
You can also use -zoom # to pick your favorite zoom. -roll,-angle,-rotate,-height also does some fun stuff to take epic screen shots.

I can certainly add an option for host (player 1) to pick a max age in the first 1 minute of the game (iron, castle, industrial, modern, none) in the next version coming up!

 

[Jaimes]

GJ Man. Only problem is that the workers stop when they i upgrade them. Is there anyway to code that they continue what they were doing instead of stopping??? Makes it hard for me since i always spawn military units

Anyway Keep it up!

 

[Acorn511]

GJ Man. Only problem is that the workers stop when they i upgrade them. Is there anyway to code that they continue what they were doing instead of stopping??? Makes it hard for me since i always spawn military units

Anyway Keep it up!

I could make it so they keep working but when I do that kind of upgrade, they can't build properly. I don't know why. I tried using bear form but I'll see what i can do to fix that.

 

[Sir Impala]

Thanks a lot for the max age update Now we can make the games shorter and players will play throughout! I set the max age as Castle Age and woot you see a totally different game, all medieval units! At least not only the future units gets frequently used Nice job!

 

[SevereAndSiege]

Great map , great map. The only thing that is unbearable is the terrain. Get the terrain larger and add some bases with 3-4 openings. Great map overall. And In high level technology. Maybe add some automatic harvesting .. thingy? Like a wisp. Add some more tower upgrades that goes into different upgrades. 4/5. Very Great Map. Love it. Playing it for over a month now.

 

[Acorn511]

Great map , great map. The only thing that is unbearable is the terrain. Get the terrain larger and add some bases with 3-4 openings. Great map overall. And In high level technology. Maybe add some automatic harvesting .. thingy? Like a wisp. Add some more tower upgrades that goes into different upgrades. 4/5. Very Great Map. Love it. Playing it for over a month now.

Map is considered "huge" already. It only looks small because I have the zoom at 3000, default wc3 zoom is 1600. Also, why would anyone take a base with 4 openings?


I can add more unique towers later on =D

Thanks for the feedback

 

[elderlucian]

i think that the ages progress too rapidly, the limiter is nice and all but you cant really use the other epochs units since everyone is trying to get to a certain one first before the fighting actually starts

 

[xorkatoss]

goosh another map that is protected and cannot be readed by tft...
is it too hard to protect your maps in a way that they can be readed by tft so we won't have to deprotect and them play? -.-
anw im gonna test and review soon...

EDIT:
wow this game reminds of Age of War...
but this game is kinda better cause you don't attack only one civilization...
also there are countless upgrades wtf?
i played for about 1h and there still were upgrades...
anyway the map was pretty good and i don't see a reason why not giving it a 5/5 gj man

 

[Acorn511]

I didn't protect my map Do you have the latest version of wc3?

 

[Tleno]

Actually upgrades are not endless, but you would need warpten and greedisgood just to see them end...

 

[Sky Green]

Bug

Hey I have discovered a Bug (oh noooo!)

Well when I wanna make a wall pasable I still can't go through.

And take your time I don't wanna rush you

 

[Acorn511]

Hey I have discovered a Bug (oh noooo!)

Well when I wanna make a wall pasable I still can't go through.

And take your time I don't wanna rush you

I'm well aware of that. Not sure how to fix it. It's something to do with blizzard's pathing ai. The walls are passable if you spam click on it.

 

[MR.Tricky]

How about adding a command that turns on the AI so that it will be possible to play 2 players vs AI or something like that.
Oh and how come the heroes are only up to medieval age and if possible maybe you could limit the heroes like only one leonardo da vinci in the game because it sucks when everybode has leonardo da vinci. i mean come on clones? and maybe some global bonuses like the wonders. and also heroes being unable to be resurrected.

 

[Acorn511]

How about adding a command that turns on the AI so that it will be possible to play 2 players vs AI or something like that.
Oh and how come the heroes are only up to medieval age and if possible maybe you could limit the heroes like only one leonardo da vinci in the game because it sucks when everybode has leonardo da vinci. i mean come on clones? and maybe some global bonuses like the wonders. and also heroes being unable to be resurrected.

The reason I made it so everyone can create the same hero is for balance. Early on, the heroes have a significant advantage over the normal heroes. If Player 1 is the only one with a warchief choose early on, the cavemen from other players have a significant disadvantage.... Since most wonders can't attack other than the particle cannon and great bombard, I made it so it's one of each since getting a stonehenge up early does not offer overwhelming power to the player that made it.

The reason heroes only go up to the middle ages is because this is a map in progress. I'm constantly adding more things as I go. I'll add modern heroes soon. A few versions ago, I didn't have heroes at all.

For the ai, I can add a dialogue box, ai present or none for red (host) to choose.

 

[MR.Tricky]

oh i see.... no problem then

 

[Hugomath]

I liked the changes from previous versions from this . I got an idea for two new heroes: some sort of Commando available on Modern Era, and some sort of futuristic warrior.

 

[kevlamin]

Okay just played a game on bnet and well i got owned by ppl a coupple of techs lower than me because his sige weps could 1hit all my buildings -.- so it was game over before i could even do anything and the fire just killed any unit that got too close

 

[Acorn511]

Okay just played a game on bnet and well i got owned by ppl a coupple of techs lower than me because his sige weps could 1hit all my buildings -.- so it was game over before i could even do anything and the fire just killed any unit that got too close

Ouch. What age did u reach? I can look a bit into this, but lower tier siege units seem pretty useless in most test games i play.

 

[kevlamin]

Idk It was some sort of oanger I looked into it but I think he may have been hacking >.< hey had exploding rounds a bit like the long range misiles but the damage was way OTT for that tier it hi anything and they died i got up to castle
and idk what tier he had but he still had the first worker

 

[MR.Tricky]

Maybe more wonders would be nice
How about the GREAT WALL OF CHINA^^

 

[Acorn511]

Idk It was some sort of oanger I looked into it but I think he may have been hacking >.< hey had exploding rounds a bit like the long range misiles but the damage was way OTT for that tier it hi anything and they died i got up to castle
and idk what tier he had but he still had the first worker

Uggggggh my bad, accidentally gave it the radiation skill. Fixed it now and thank you for pointing out the glitch.

 

[kevlamin]

Your welcome, by the way everyone I played with thought the map was brilliant, as do I reminds me of the game Rise of Nations

 

[Acorn511]

Thanks and haha, never played rise of nations before. I actually based this off Empire Earth I which is still one of my favorite RTS games. I was a big fan of the game when I first started map making in warcraft back in 2005. This is my first map and I'm still not finished...LOL

 

[kevlamin]

XD well Its great all the same

 

[MR.Tricky]

There is an error. Or i think.
When my marketplace turned into a large market place the techtree of the market place disappeared.
Therefore i was unable to build temple of solomon(which required the marketplace)

I have played this map except it was ver 1.8 is it fake (it was english btw)

 

[Acorn511]

There is an error. Or i think.
When my marketplace turned into a large market place the techtree of the market place disappeared.
Therefore i was unable to build temple of solomon(which required the marketplace)

Thank you. I'll fix that asap.

I have played this map except it was ver 1.8 is it fake (it was english btw)

Yea, I keep it open source so people can play around with it =D

 

[Sir Impala]

Hi again I think the biggest problem here is still the terrain, you really need to make it bigger. Is it at the maximum size of 256 - 256? if it is, I think you got to resize all your units to fit in the default zoom, because it's really small, with that far zoom out and then units move so slowly.

If I played a full house, everyone would be too close to each other. You could possibly make all unit's scaling value smaller and their collision size while buildings smaller too with a smaller pathing. I really want more choices of bases to choose from and the feel of a huge map. I think you need to look at some great terrain maps, maybe Sifonseal's Founders of the North for example?

By the way, I think this is something no one else has mentioned, the centre town of Civilians is pretty useless, don't you think? You could make it smaller too, or maybe even banish it to just the Holy Cathedral, the Civilians serve no purpose.

 

[Acorn511]

Thanks, I'll take a look into that map as a reference point =D

 

[Hugomath]

You could just kill them all and destroy their stuff. But, yea, the cathedral could be destructible so players could be able to build something. It's a good spot for... you know, a Wonder

 

[MR.Tricky]

I suggest changing the condition of you being defeated when your castle or whatever gets killed because other people just attack youre castle because when they kill it everything disappears. So instead of that maybe when the castle(or whatever) gets destried you get _____ minutes to rebuild it or else you lose. And when you lose all your buildings/ units turns hostile.(or probably changes ownership to be realistic)Or maybe the one who destroyed your castle gets to choose if he/she destroys you and take your resources or you will become his Minion or Vassal or Henchmen and he will have full control on your units and he can also take your resources.(there will be a chance of betrayal)

 

[Sky Green]

Have you ever come up on the idea to create a hero for demons (Some big demon) and for angels (Archangel Gabriel) or like that.

 

[Acorn511]

I can do that after I get the modern heroes up

 

[Tleno]

What about some kind of wonders that when finished become heroes?

Oh, and what modern heroes you suggest?

Final heroes could be Lucipher and Gabriel.

 

[Sky Green]

Yea somethin like that, cuz they both are (or were) Archangels

 

[Acorn511]

How about adding a command that turns on the AI so that it will be possible to play 2 players vs AI or something like that.

Finally got around adding that with the -creep command. Hopefully it works as expected, hadn't been able to test it out on battlenet yet.

 

[MR.Tricky]

Yey Multiplayer mode >

 

[Acorn511]

If you can test it, please tell me if it works right. I have problems with battlenet hosting =/

I suggest changing the condition of you being defeated when your castle or whatever gets killed because other people just attack youre castle because when they kill it everything disappears. So instead of that maybe when the castle(or whatever) gets destried you get _____ minutes to rebuild it or else you lose. And when you lose all your buildings/ units turns hostile.(or probably changes ownership to be realistic)Or maybe the one who destroyed your castle gets to choose if he/she destroys you and take your resources or you will become his Minion or Vassal or Henchmen and he will have full control on your units and he can also take your resources.(there will be a chance of betrayal)

The full control thing sounds like a good idea. I'll just need to find a way to make it work in the triggers >.>

 

[MR.Tricky]

i tested it and the -creep command. well after i typed -creep and chose Yes i started making defenses 5 minutes later i was wondering what is taking them so long.Later i sent some scouts and i found out they were not moving and they where huddled up. Ill try to show you a screen shot.
Edit oh and their units did not age up

 

[Acorn511]

i tested it and the -creep command. well after i typed -creep and chose Yes i started making defenses 5 minutes later i was wondering what is taking them so long.Later i sent some scouts and i found out they were not moving and they where huddled up. Ill try to show you a screen shot.
Edit oh and their units did not age up

This was with 2 players? I tested it by myself and they do attack.

Edit: I found a mistake. If you were playing as teal or a friend was playing as teal, it would screw up the spawn targetting ai. I fixed that as well as the unit aging. Hopefully this works now.

 

[MR.Tricky]

Well we were 2 players but no one was teal(i closed the teal slot).He was blue and i was red(obviously)

 

[Acorn511]

Hmmm I'll take a look into it tonight then after work.

 

[MR.Tricky]

so..... have you found the cause of error?

 

[Acorn511]

so..... have you found the cause of error?

It's weird. I don't see an error. I ran a test with a comp player and it seemed fine.

Basically I added a trigger to have player 10 light blue spawn 5 units at a random location in the map and add it to player group that is to be attacked. The creeps will go after them fine.....

 

[Hugomath]

I got a question: are the multiplayer creeps supposed to attack the players' bases, or just to stay where they are?