Revolutions

[Nuclear]

You know, they have been happening lately, mostly in arab countries. Tunisia, Egypt, and maybe soon Libya.

But. Do you think that will it spread to China?
I think it might, but very unlikely, since riot police might break the protester's lines and prevent it happening. But if it does, it's of course good thing.
It's amazing how China has been violating human rights for so long, and no-one hasn't said anything.

But there is a dark side.
As everyone knows, many things are produced in China, PS3, xBox 360, etc...
And, democracy might guarantee people better paycheck, and it would make manufacturing of many products more expensive.
That would increase prices. A lot.

However, I think that there is a very low chance of that happening

So what do you think? Would it be a good thing, in your opinion?

 

[fladdermasken]

If someone asked me a month ago if Khadaffi would lose his grip over Libya I would deem it highly unlikely.
While my supposed hypothesis proved to be wrong, I'm still going to presume the same thing about the Chinese government.

But if it does, it's of course good thing.

Depends on your interpretation of 'good'.

Revolutions aren't pretty. A full revolt in China would be of a ridiculous magnitude, and the consequences that inevitably follows would be of equal grandeur.

I also doubt China would be ideal even after this revolution.
Eventually things'll end up right where they started off, or so I'd say. And then of course you have to ask yourself if the revolution was worth all the trouble it caused.

It's amazing how China has been violating human rights for so long, and no-one hasn't said anything.

As far as I'm aware it's been openly discussed for years.
Perhaps not as 'openly' in China, but in the rest of the world at least.

However, noone has seriously taken action.

But there is a dark side.
As everyone knows, many things are produced in China, PS3, xBox 360, etc...

Yay for priorities.

Death and suffering < PS3, Xbox360

And, democracy might guarantee people better paycheck, and it would make manufacturing of many products more expensive.

According to the Chinese government, China is a democracy.
As previously stated, I don't think the revolution would change much.

Conclusively, I'd say this situation can only be resolved by Team America.

 

[Geazergimli2]

Thanks to these revolutions.. it seems all gas prices are raising... hopefully saudi arabia won't get mixed up with this...
but as for China... i wouldn't even know if their government is even gonna allow the people of their country to know of these revolutions, just keep it secret... or will they.....?

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

China allows the citizens enough freedom of information to know of the revolutions, they're not like North Korea remember.

Note one thing here,
Egypt's government wasn't even supported by their military, yeah that's a bit of a huge factor that allowed the protests to evolve into revolution - they refused to do anything about them. Now let's come back to China, which has an incredibly nationalistic and loyal military and effective police force - basically if any huge protest occurs, it's going to be Tienanmen Square all over again - protest/revolts normally come from universities/colleges thus it's normally the youth that fuel these movements, from there it'll spread if they gain some success showing others that resistance isn't futile, resulting in larger and larger protests - China would crush this spark easily, it wouldn't get to the point of full blown rebellion. It'll create a huge media blitz of international anger, but then as always it will subside as time passes and people forget and China will just continue on with it's current government, China doesn't exactly care what everyone else thinks of them.

 

[Nuclear]

Depends on your interpretation of 'good'.

Revolutions aren't pretty. A full revolt in China would be of a ridiculous magnitude, and the consequences that inevitably follows would be of equal grandeur.

I also doubt China would be ideal even after this revolution.
Eventually things'll end up right where they started off, or so I'd say. And then of course you have to ask yourself if the revolution was worth all the trouble it caused.

Maybe I meant that it's good thing if it succeeds?

Yay for priorities.

Death and suffering < PS3, Xbox360

I admit that I am selfish bastard, in my point of view, it would be bad thing.
How about you, would you be ready to pay a higher price for consoles/other electronic stuff?

According to the Chinese government, China is a democracy.
As previously stated, I don't think the revolution would change much.

I wouldn't call country that doesn't allow demonstrations a democracy.

 

[fladdermasken]

Maybe I meant that it's good thing if it succeeds?

I know, and of course I agree that such law opression is wrong and should be fought against.
However, I was merely pointing out that the consequences of such a revolt would be immense, and quite frankly pointless if nothing would change afterwards.

And to quote wherewolf:

Egypt's government wasn't even supported by their military, yeah that's a bit of a huge factor that allowed the protests to evolve into revolution - they refused to do anything about them. Now let's come back to China, which has an incredibly nationalistic and loyal military and effective police force - basically if any huge protest occurs, it's going to be Tienanmen Square all over again - protest/revolts normally come from universities/colleges thus it's normally the youth that fuel these movements, from there it'll spread if they gain some success showing others that resistance isn't futile, resulting in larger and larger protests - China would crush this spark easily, it wouldn't get to the point of full blown rebellion. It'll create a huge media blitz of international anger, but then as always it will subside as time passes and people forget and China will just continue on with it's current government, China doesn't exactly care what everyone else thinks of them.

I admit that I am selfish bastard, in my point of view, it would be bad thing.
How about you, would you be ready to pay a higher price for consoles/other electronic stuff?

I was actually saying that it was funny that you chose to mention how console prices would raise over the fact that millions would die in the revolt when talking of this 'dark side'.

Of course I don't consider the possible mark-up to be positive

I wouldn't call country that doesn't allow demonstrations a democracy.

Neither would I, however the chinese government would.
They deem our interpretation of democracy as bedlamite as they deem it daft.

 

[-W3SK3R-]

There is revolution in Greece i heard on the news there is big revolution in Greece...

 

[Animalpower]

It reminds me of zeitgeist movement, they are not aiming that way not directionally, but there may be something in revolutions about zeitgeist spirit.

 

[N.Knight]

China is already leading a revolution, against India. Its called Maoism.
China is spreading its socialist ideology to India, & the poor are buying it like discounted hot chocolate. its sells cheap firearms to terrorist. The fucking islamist retards who attacked Bombay were carrying made in china guns.

As far is electronics is concerned we can make better stuff with more reliable technology in US or India or even Saudi if thats the case. But everything that is 'Made in China' sucks.

 

[Fussiler1]

There is revolution in Greece i heard on the news there is big revolution in Greece...

no those are just some retarded protests.

 

[-W3SK3R-]

Hmm, ok

 

[Nuclear]

But everything that is 'Made in China' sucks.

No... I'd say that about 60% of that stuff sucks.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Find me a piece of technology in your house not made in China
That's a serious problem

Really if any country's revolutions are going to affect the world, it'd be if revolutions continued to spread in the middle east - no one has a problem with revolution until it affects their wallet through an archaic fuel source that we could've already started cutting our dependence on...

While on the subject of fuel - who's dumb idea was it to think the gas companies are the best people to ask for the next big thing in energy.... now they've got tons of people bought onto natural gas, which just straight out devastates the land it's drilled for in... Sure, it's a great idea to drill for that in your own country!

 

[Disasterpiece512]

The way I see it, China is violating human rights for it's own well-being. Their population is so big that it doesn't allow them to be self-sufficient.

However that may be, I don't think that actually justifies the fact that they would rather sacrifice their people's well being for the sake of progress and international renown. I may be a bit off-subject here though, I'm not totally aware of China's politics.

Furthermore, I don't really understand why the whole Middle East got so fucking riled up so fast and frankly, I don't really care as long as they keep it in their borders. Nobody cares what happens in Romania's borders, and trust me, things here covered up, but they're not pretty at all. However, if the people of China WOULD revolt against their government it would be a total shitstorm, because all the major countries would just love to get involved to tilt the winning faction in their favor. Hunger for power is what drives most countries these days...