Respawn only ONCE

[kanata]

Hi all, please help me. I have a problem with Respawn Trigger.
I tried to make simple respawn trigger, so when anyone kill a monster in my map, the monster will respawn again.
And then I create the trigger and test my map. And when I killed the monster, the monster respawn after 5 secs. But when I killed it again, the monster didn't respawn. Can you help me?
This is a screenshot of my trigger:

Sorry for my bad English.
Thank you before

 

[Solu9]

You refer to a specific unit.
Once this unit dies you cannot refer to it again.

Use:

• Test
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Dies
  • Conditions
    • (Unit-type of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Enchanted Skeleton
  • Actions
    • Wait 5.00 seconds
    • Set Temp_Point = (Center of (Region 009 <gen>))
    • Unit - Create 1 Enchanted Skeleton for Player 1 (Red) at Temp_Point facing Default building facing degrees
    • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point)

 

[Malhorne]

Use the trigger above.
The explanation why yours doesn't work is that when the skeleton dies it will change his number so the trigger won't fire a second time.
Anyway for a respawn trigger i think it is better to use this

• Set Temp_Point = (Position of (Triggering unit) )

 

[Solu9]

Use the trigger above.
The explanation why yours doesn't work is that when the skeleton dies it will change his number so the trigger won't fire a second time.
Anyway for a respawn trigger i think it is better to use this

• Set Temp_Point = (Position of (Triggering unit) )

Indeed.

But only if the unit should spawn where it died and not where its original location was.

 

[deathismyfriend]

You shouldn't use waits. Look at my tutorial things a GUIer should know.

Spawn new unit at position of triggering unit. Then hide the unit.
Wait 5 seconds.
Unhide unit.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

you could use a region. i have used spawn regions myself so if you want that i can tell you how to create it.

 

[deathismyfriend]

He said he wants to respawn at the dying units location.

 

[kanata]

Thank you for all your answers.. i already read all, but i still confuse with several things:
1. If I want my unit to respawn on it original location, what trigger i must use?
2. I can't find Set Temp_Point on 'Actions', can you guide me there?

Once again, thank you and sorry for my bad English

 

[andreasaspenberg]

if you want the unit to respawn where it dies i should be able to post an example map for you. i have worked on that kind of script myself so just wait for me to update this post. here it is. what i did was that i used a unit group variable to store the unit then, i used a condition to find out that the unit is in that unit group. the unit is added to the unit group at the start of the game through the Initialization trigger. i also placed a wait before the action so that it takes a few seconds for it to respawn. it works perfectly.

 

[Daffa]

use Variable to track the unit.

 

[Luorax]

if you want the unit to respawn where it dies i should be able to post an example map for you. i have worked on that kind of script myself so just wait for me to update this post. here it is. what i did was that i used a unit group variable to store the unit then, i used a condition to find out that the unit is in that unit group. the unit is added to the unit group at the start of the game through the Initialization trigger. i also placed a wait before the action so that it takes a few seconds for it to respawn. it works perfectly.

Yea, this seems to be a good solution.

Alternatively, what I thought of is a dummy ability based on "Sphere" with no visual. When a unit is respawned, you'd give it this dummy ability (and make it permanent so that they wouldn't lose it if they morph, for example, via hex). When something dies, simply check whether they have this ability or not, and only respawn them if they don't.

 

[Maker]

You shouldn't use waits. Look at my tutorial things a GUIer should know.

Spawn new unit at position of triggering unit. Then hide the unit.
Wait 5 seconds.
Unhide unit.

I think waits are ok when used in a respawn system. The inaccuracy is quite low percentage-wise as the waits are relatively long.

Hidden units consume processing power so it is better to create the unit after a delay, not instantly.

 

[deathismyfriend]

I think waits are ok when used in a respawn system. The inaccuracy is quite low percentage-wise as the waits are relatively long.

Hidden units consume processing power so it is better to create the unit after a delay, not instantly.

Inaccuracy is not the problem waits face when using long intervals.
The problem is that they continue to count down when the player disconnect dialog pops up. They also have this problem with a few other things. It gives an unfair advantage to players that know how to cheat the system.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

why dont we let the topic starter decide rather than argue.

 

[kanata]

if you want the unit to respawn where it dies i should be able to post an example map for you. i have worked on that kind of script myself so just wait for me to update this post. here it is. what i did was that i used a unit group variable to store the unit then, i used a condition to find out that the unit is in that unit group. the unit is added to the unit group at the start of the game through the Initialization trigger. i also placed a wait before the action so that it takes a few seconds for it to respawn. it works perfectly.

use Variable to track the unit.

Yea, this seems to be a good solution.

Alternatively, what I thought of is a dummy ability based on "Sphere" with no visual. When a unit is respawned, you'd give it this dummy ability (and make it permanent so that they wouldn't lose it if they morph, for example, via hex). When something dies, simply check whether they have this ability or not, and only respawn them if they don't.

I think waits are ok when used in a respawn system. The inaccuracy is quite low percentage-wise as the waits are relatively long.

Hidden units consume processing power so it is better to create the unit after a delay, not instantly.

Inaccuracy is not the problem waits face when using long intervals.
The problem is that they continue to count down when the player disconnect dialog pops up. They also have this problem with a few other things. It gives an unfair advantage to players that know how to cheat the system.

why dont we let the topic starter decide rather than argue.

Thanks all for the answers and sorry for the late reply.
I already learned and tried andreasaspenberg respawn trigger, and it works. But i still confuse about variable. But, overall, all of your answers are very helpful. Thank you again

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i knew that my trigger worked because i tested it myself. you are welcome to ask me to explain the variable.

 

[deathismyfriend]

Can you show the triggers.

 

[kanata]

i knew that my trigger worked because i tested it myself. you are welcome to ask me to explain the variable.

andreasaspenberg, i already tried your trigger, but it didn't work for me. I use it to respawn some monsters, but the monsters won't spawn. But when i disable the condition, the trigger is work, but the monsters just respawn only once. After i killed the monsters again, they didn't respawn again.

Can you show the triggers.

You can see my trigger on the 1st post, and for andreasaspenberg's trigger:

• Events
• Unit - A unit Dies
• Conditions
• ((Dying unit) is in group1) Equal to True
• Actions
• Wait 5.00 seconds
• Unit - Replace (Dying Unit) with a Ogre Lord using The new unit's max life and mana
• Unit Group - Add (Last replaced unit) to group1

I want to try Solu9 and Malhorne trigger, but i don't know how to create Set Temp Point trigger.

 

[Nichilus]

I want to try Solu9 and Malhorne trigger, but i don't know how to create Set Temp Point trigger.

It's the "Set variable" action found in -General- submenu of the "Action" menu.

TempPoint is a point variable. Variables allow us to store things in them - a point variable allows you to store point/location in it.
To use a variable, you have to create it beforehand - that is done in Variable editor.
Variable editor can be accessed through Trigger Editor. When you have opened Trigger Editor, look for an icon of yellow/golden "X" (or press CTRL+B).

In the variable editor, you have to create new variable, define its type, give it a name and that's it.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

each of the units you want to respawn need to be in a unit group. i suggest checking another of the triggers in the map for that. you need to add each unit to a unit group through a trigger.

 

[kanata]

It's the "Set variable" action found in -General- submenu of the "Action" menu.

TempPoint is a point variable. Variables allow us to store things in them - a point variable allows you to store point/location in it.
To use a variable, you have to create it beforehand - that is done in Variable editor.
Variable editor can be accessed through Trigger Editor. When you have opened Trigger Editor, look for an icon of yellow/golden "X" (or press CTRL+B).

In the variable editor, you have to create new variable, define its type, give it a name and that's it.

Thank you, i'll try it

each of the units you want to respawn need to be in a unit group. i suggest checking another of the triggers in the map for that. you need to add each unit to a unit group through a trigger.

Umm, how can I insert each unit to a unit group through a trigger? and when I see your variable via Object manager, It shown like this:

• Variables[1]
• -Unit Group [1]
  • -group1
    • -Triggers [2]
      • -Initialization [2]
        • Melee Initialization
        • respawn

But when i see my trigger at object manager, it only shown Variables until group1. Seems I forget to do some steps?
Btw, thankyou

 

[andreasaspenberg]

just use unit group add unit for each unit or you could place a region then add all units in that region. just place it at the bottom of the initialization trigger. i can provide an example if you want.

 

[kanata]

just use unit group add unit for each unit or you could place a region then add all units in that region. just place it at the bottom of the initialization trigger. i can provide an example if you want.

It work! I forget to add Unit Groups Action at Melee Initialization Trigger.
But once more, the delay respawn time only 4 seconds. I tried >4 seconds and the unit won't respawn. What shoul I do? Am I missing something??
Btw. thanks again mr andreasaspenberg

 

[Maker]

But once more, the delay respawn time only 4 seconds. I tried >4 seconds and the unit won't respawn. What shoul I do? Am I missing something??

The unit might be set to not decay. Set the death type so that it decays.

 

[kanata]

The unit might be set to not decay. Set the death type so that it decays.

It works! Thank you very much

 

[Vinz]

andreasaspenberg, i already tried your trigger, but it didn't work for me. I use it to respawn some monsters, but the monsters won't spawn. But when i disable the condition, the trigger is work, but the monsters just respawn only once. After i killed the monsters again, they didn't respawn again.


You can see my trigger on the 1st post, and for andreasaspenberg's trigger:

• Events
• Unit - A unit Dies
• Conditions
• ((Dying unit) is in group1) Equal to True
• Actions
• Wait 5.00 seconds
• Unit - Replace (Dying Unit) with a Ogre Lord using The new unit's max life and mana
• Unit Group - Add (Last replaced unit) to group1

I want to try Solu9 and Malhorne trigger, but i don't know how to create Set Temp Point trigger.

What? Dying Unit? Shouldn't that be the local GetTriggerUnit()? Not MUI if you ask me. Also doesn't spawn on a desired region, just the same as the other triggers.

 

[Maker]

What? Dying Unit? Shouldn't that be the local GetTriggerUnit()? Not MUI if you ask me.

Time to launch the editor then and run a test