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ap0calypse: Rejected
Whatever.
ap0calypse: Rejected
Whatever.
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He reported the map so I would take a look at it.You gave me a 1/5 and vote for rejection and even reported? Mind telling me why?
Map description is pretty good... I improved the terrain/ the terrain was extremely good compared to all the other frenzies...., thats meant to be like that for now, for your third thing. I agree there for your 4th one, I did give hints in quests.... upgrades cost is lowered next version. movement speed can be upgraded and is surpost to be slow, how is that a minus? icons are poor? you kidding me? seriously wow...... If i put this in map development it will just get forgotten, don't deny me because I know its true.
That huge invulnerable thing was an enemy for me, so clicking it really didn't help a lot.So you deprotected my map? I wish that mpq blocker still worked.... The huge invulnerable dummy unit in the middle was for you to click on to issue a attack mass order to center...
It appears you didn't test my map very well or look at it, the damage upgrade is not what you think, not your real damage and it does do more. just not that much more... I am not hating anyone, just saying this is better then most frenzies I see...
Because having a 100% crit with x1.2 damage and a base damage of 0-10 is different from 0-12 damage?I had it 0 - 10 dmg because I liked that idea since it'd be fair and the ways you are suggesting would make my map just as bad as all those other footies....
I didn't even give your map an actual review and I never said I did.My map is already really good though, thank you for helping me out unlike ap0calyspe did.
Ap0calyspe goes exactly correct by his name below his acc name called a map repeller, he is very good at repelling.
That huge invulnerable thing is the dummy unit to use mass order commands as I said earlier.
I check about 10 maps a day (not 20, not 5 either).I know you guys have lives and I thank you now for using your time to review my map.
I doubt it that he checks over twenty per day, I would say at most five at the maximum.
If I put this in the map development forum as I said before I won't get much out of it.
Before anybody gets harsh again do try to test the map as best as you can if you have the time to do so before rating or rejecting my map.
Oh, update as well I hate terraining with a passion so before you judge my skills in the arts of terrain data please remember that next time. ( I might just paint my terrain in a .tga file next time and convert it to warcraft terrains file format and import it that way. )
Yes, I only played it for 5 minutes.If i upgrade output damage I upgrade input damage too making it 1-11.... If you played it for five minutes then maybe reject everyone's map because you seem to not get the idea of what I am trying to do, I do not want normal damage, or maybe the people you do know about, you will only approve their maps because you don't have twenty minutes to waste just to test a map. which is usually the case for you moderators, because I myself know this is better then some of the maps approved on this site.... Well if I can do it better then tell me how to make a better attack command instead of this. How can I learn more from your first post? I was original and I didn't want to waste a full day on making a description where literally nobody will bother to read it. I did everything you said in your first post and you still reject my map? I bet you didn't try it again after I updated it.
Yes, I only played it for 5 minutes.
Is there anything else I really need to see? I've seen the triggers, the terrain, all possible upgrades and units.
There just isn't that much to see in this game, I didn't like anything I've seen, how can it then get approved?
Yeah, sure: some approved maps here date back from 2006 (or even earlier, from wc3s), the approval standard was very low back then compared to as it is now.
I didn't reject this based only on what I saw, but also based on what kobas said.
I indeed didn't try it again, am I supposed to?
Are you going to tell me what I have to do?
Perhaps you don't read the description, doesn't mean other people don't.
A description does more than you think it does.
I have various programs, not only xdep, I think you're underestimating how many programs have been developed just to deprotect maps.I knew it, you only rejected it because you don't like it.
I am talking about the 2007 or 2008 or even 2009 one's....
kobas tried the poor version same as you meaning what your opinions mean right now are worthless because I changed everything and made it better while I keep telling you to stay out of my map... Your using XDep aren't you? below 1.23 I could block that
It can get approved by re testing the map and you haven't seen all possible upgrades and stop using XDep and there is only one unit I know that.
You gave me a 1/5 and vote for rejection and even reported? Mind telling me why?
Map description is pretty good...
If i put this in map development it will just get forgotten, don't deny me because I know its true.
I am not hating anyone, just saying this is better then most frenzies I see...
My map is already really good though, thank you for helping me out unlike ap0calyspe did.
Oh, update as well I hate terraining with a passion so before you judge my skills in the arts of terrain data please remember that next time. ( I might just paint my terrain in a .tga file next time and convert it to warcraft terrains file format and import it that way. )
.... If you played it for five minutes then maybe reject everyone's map because you seem to not get the idea of what I am trying to do, I do not want normal damage, or maybe the people you do know about, you will only approve their maps because you don't have twenty minutes to waste just to test a map.
because I myself know this is better then some of the maps approved on this site....
Yeah, sure: some approved maps here date back from 2006 (or even earlier, from wc3s), the approval standard was very low back then compared to as it is now.
I was original and I didn't want to waste a full day on making a description where literally nobody will bother to read it.
I did everything you said in your first post and you still reject my map?
"Anything wrong with a map moderator rejecting a map he and another user do not like? Can't see the problem here."
Huge problem there, You and one user do not like my map... what about the thousands of other users on this site? How is it fair to them to block my map and only you and two others seen it?
If I wanted help, would I of posted this in the maps section then?
I dislike people adding small cheats to my map even if you don't, others will.
Dead wrong sonny. This map is used to have a much better Description. And it's still good for today's standards.[...]Map description is pretty good... [...]
Already good? Naahh. Another Footies. Very original. [/sarcasm]My map is already really good though, thank you for helping me out unlike ap0calyspe did.
Ap0calyspe goes exactly correct by his name below his acc name called a map repeller, he is very good at repelling.[...]
Dead wrong. Again. In here, people judge books by their cover.[...]I was original and I didn't want to waste a full day on making a description where literally nobody will bother to read it.[...]
Well I don't recall saying a hour or two, I actually think it was twenty minutes I said. Sometimes first glances can't tell if a map is good or bad.
Terrain usually never mattes in a footmen frenzy if you ever paid attention to the others out there, I am still working on that though.
Well care to tell me what peoples maps are just like mine? I do think barely anyone reads and I am right.
I thought I presented my work just fine but it seems I have to add colours for the children.
It wasn't a minor update. I definately need to remeber to add a changelog...
It was over ten changes and what does it matter if its rejected by the staff? your comment there tells me the staff matters more then the community.
Your melee map had a terrain makeover and more creatures added in right?
Nobody is commenting because it wasn't seen for everyone else, that is why plus I need to add colours still. "dead" wrong there, honest opinion of testing a map for five minutes? That one made me Lol
My map seems to be liked by my clan so the other side wouldn't be rejecting me.
your giving nothing to help me improve it besides this bullcrap.
Map Development wouldn't be the place since nobody would come and comment since I have posted other stuff there and barely anyone commented. Though they did view it a lot.
like your style manta. if i was given such answers by ap0 and sep and those good guys i would feel like a saint because my map would be better. BUT, in your case, u blatantly rejected their suggestions. Dude, theres a difference between MAP PLAYERS and MAP MAKERS. MAP PLAYERS are those stupid dumbass you can cheat with mediocre triggering work and they will say good job and MAP MAKERS are those who wants high quality standards for their map. It seems like you liked your map being just as it is, but why?
The mods have read,scanned and everything you said the first post of my map, they never touched the update and apparently you two can't see that either while I do agree about that 5 min thing but it doesn't work anymore since I added more. Possibly better but nobody knows that for sure and the only way to get a map back to pending from rejected around here is to argue it seems since I asked repeatedly how to fix my map.
I am working extremely hard on this side project right now and trying to add hero's because I think it needed a new unit since people dislike only one unit type.
I don't mind my stuff being rejected but when someone in power won't look at the update but look at the first update instead just makes me a little upset since that's what happens around here and I as a user am trying to change that, I apologize deeply for any harsh remarks I made.
Instead of commenting on how I argued/battled with a mod how about try testing the map for like 10 minutes and suggest upgrades or something else I could add.
I forgot to mention that I couldn't find a way to improve my map description since there is only typing for it and you can't do anything else unless I post it here which would seem useless.
I do not know how people added screen-shots or video's and color and whatever to their descriptions because it seems pretty impossible.
Because I care.WarManta said:If ap0 has so much going on then why bother with me/ the seemingly raging noob?
Because nobody has ever done it, it means that it doesn't matter?WarManta said:Terrain usually never mattes in a footmen frenzy if you ever paid attention to the others out there, I am still working on that though.
This only counts for maps with a huge gameplay (usually RPG's): this map didn't seem to vary a lot, if I played it more than 5 minutes I would probably find more bugs and/or things that weren't as they're supposed to be.WarManta said:Well I don't recall saying a hour or two, I actually think it was twenty minutes I said. Sometimes first glances can't tell if a map is good or bad.
Certainly not! Please refrain yourself from using too much color codes.WarManta said:I thought I presented my work just fine but it seems I have to add colours for the children.
No such thing as over 100%
I doubt you've been in my shoes before lol.
"Dead wrong sonny. This map is used to have a much better Description. And it's still good for today's standards.
These Links can be helpful for your Description."
Whats up with everyone saying dead all of a sudden? ( gives me a feeling your all zombies.... ) I am currently working on improving my description and today's standards seem high.
Thank you for leaving a nicer comment atleast.
"Already good? Naahh. Another Footies. Very original. [/sarcasm]
And ap0 has a life too. He's also a Mod on Horde Studio."
This will soon not just be another footies, I will be changing that shortly...
If ap0 has so much going on then why bother with me/ the seemingly raging noob?
"Dead wrong. Again. In here, people judge books by their cover. "
You said dead again, lol. If everyone judges books by their cover then wouldn't that mean this is not a place for real maps then now is it?
Well if you cared so much why bother with this arguing and just test my map instead?
Wc3C sucks in my opinion, I have tried to show whats so special, the cover shouldn't be everything...
It's not that people hate you. You are just being a jerk on opinions at the beginning, that's all. I've seen some good changes on your attitude, though. And stop arguing. This is a friendly advice from your random Average Joe.I would add screen-shots but nobody likes me anyways so I can't get a game going to show screen-shots, working on AI so I can play by myself and do it that way.
Apologies everyone, I am just not easy to get along with so I will ignore what happen and thank you for your helpful information.
I am done arguing with you guys since it seems I would most likely win but have a negative effect on myself.
FIRST: Yes, today's standard is very high. You're lucky Hive is not as elitist as Wc3C
SECOND: Show us what is so "special" about this then
THIRD: In here, Cover = Description
FOURTH: Dead Wrong = Very Wrong
Wc3C sucks in my opinion, I have tried to show whats so special, the cover shouldn't be everything... that just shows how rude everyone is then. You guys seem to rather like Dead Wrong though.
Well, this tells me so much about you guys by this argument, thank-you for proving a point for myself.
Because I didn't feel like playing the map again, of course!WarManta said:Well if you cared so much why bother with this arguing and just test my map instead? Always though a last submission was hardest. Never let anything go if its not good enough I agree but you barely gave me a chance.
Your terrain was crap, end of story.WarManta said:It does matter in a way how you degraded my map, of course it did succeed but the way I had my terrain is what I liked...
Nope, I test all maps I like for a longer period (time spent on it depends on the map).WarManta said:You really only test rpgs for twenty minutes? Finding more bugs is lovely and things that shouldn't is even better then the public finding it for me.
You've never seen a good map of me either, does that mean I suck at mapping/reviewing?WarManta said:Haven't seen a good map by you yet, I should learn to check profiles though....
Nobody said the cover is everything, though if you want people to review your map, give comments and find bugs, then you'd better have a decent cover.WarManta said:I have tried to show whats so special, the cover shouldn't be everything... that just shows how rude everyone is then.
I have removed that from his comment.WarManta said:That defiantly boosted my self esteem didn't it? No wonder why people usually leave the hive.
Why don't you like my map? By the way I have seen worst terrain then mine.
1) Yes, so? I don't like that map either... it's not approved, is it?So, I explored a little on Ap0c and found these two maps, they appear to have bad terrain don't they? http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/elemental-chaos-td-119124/
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/spells-569/chaotic-sphere-v1-2-a-151395/
I've said this before.Why don't you like my map? By the way I have seen worst terrain then mine.
So, I explored a little on Ap0c and found these two maps, they appear to have bad terrain don't they? http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/elemental-chaos-td-119124/
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/spells-569/chaotic-sphere-v1-2-a-151395/
Thank you for repeating it, you got a habit of that it seems.