Races At War v1.34

[AnglE-3lAdE]

and u added a elf tower skin on that bulls or something like that of yeah taurens

 

[BroiledVictory]

Honestly? This sounds exactly like the WC3 races, except, no Orc replacements, they're aliens, and no heroes/creeps.

 

[Jargalhurts]

Tested on all three races and here are the problems.
Celtic Angels:
1.Celtics don't have a defensive building.
2.Celtics don't have an epic unit.
3.Rune of Energy and the Rune of Vitality give the equal amount of mana and health. The mana should be decreased.
Terraformers:
1.The game crashed when i built their superweapon.
Shadow Cult:
1.Specter's description said they degenerate, but they don't.
Other:
1.Bad terrain, liked the previous one.
2.No neutral building other than the gold mine feels boring.
3.Need some in depth storyline.
Anyway 4/5 pretty good but Celts kinda ruin.

 

[Wazzz]

God damn, you still on this map?? Get a new thing!
Just kidding, you are perfecting this to perfection. I love it! =D

I especially love that you added two versions of each faction =D

Now, for some criticism. I do believe it is sooo uber easy to expand in this game. The main problem with this is that a player can set up an expansion in a highly defendable location very early. Set up a shitload of towers (this works really well for the Shadow Cult, btw, due to the increase in pop cap) and you can instantly discourage any enemies from entering your territory with great ease.
This isn't too bad, but perhaps creating a counter measure to some of the more 'desirable' locations would be something to consider.

One thing I'm wondering is why there's 3 'gold mines' at each location. I'm just wondering, it's not really a bad thing. Although I can spam workers and instantly get 15 on gold at the start of the game, giving me shitloads of resources to spare in the end game. But it's not really that bad, tbh.

And I notice you've added some minor super-weapon-esque abilities, too =D
Just wondering, why not use the mana as the cooldown for them, too? And perhaps set their health to the max so you don't get the '1/1' showing up whenever you click on them.

Apart from there minor blemishes, I do believe this is pretty much perfect =D
Good job =D

 

[avpchin]

Tested on all three races and here are the problems.
Celtic Angels:
1.Celtics don't have a defensive building.
2.Celtics don't have an epic unit.
3.Rune of Energy and the Rune of Vitality give the equal amount of mana and health. The mana should be decreased.
Terraformers:
1.The game crashed when i built their superweapon.
Shadow Cult:
1.Specter's description said they degenerate, but they don't.
Other:
1.Bad terrain, liked the previous one.
2.No neutral building other than the gold mine feels boring.
3.Need some in depth storyline.
Anyway 4/5 pretty good but Celts kinda ruin.

Wow, thanks for the comments! Well, for the Celtic Angels, the reason I didn't put a defensive building or an epic unit is to counter it's already strong forces. I added that each building has slight immolation tho. I might be changing the rune system to something else(not confirmed yet). The game crashed when u built the superweapon? That has not happened b4. I'll look into it. I'll add the hp degeneration. For the terrain, I tried something different by adding cliffs instead of just flat terrain. I decided to put gold mines only for now, maybe adding neutral buildings in the future. I'm not really focusing on the storyline, but I might just improve it in the future. Thanks alot!!!

 

[avpchin]

God damn, you still on this map?? Get a new thing!
Just kidding, you are perfecting this to perfection. I love it! =D

I especially love that you added two versions of each faction =D

Now, for some criticism. I do believe it is sooo uber easy to expand in this game. The main problem with this is that a player can set up an expansion in a highly defendable location very early. Set up a shitload of towers (this works really well for the Shadow Cult, btw, due to the increase in pop cap) and you can instantly discourage any enemies from entering your territory with great ease.
This isn't too bad, but perhaps creating a counter measure to some of the more 'desirable' locations would be something to consider.

One thing I'm wondering is why there's 3 'gold mines' at each location. I'm just wondering, it's not really a bad thing. Although I can spam workers and instantly get 15 on gold at the start of the game, giving me shitloads of resources to spare in the end game. But it's not really that bad, tbh.

And I notice you've added some minor super-weapon-esque abilities, too =D
Just wondering, why not use the mana as the cooldown for them, too? And perhaps set their health to the max so you don't get the '1/1' showing up whenever you click on them.

Apart from there minor blemishes, I do believe this is pretty much perfect =D
Good job =D

I might increase the build time of town halls soon. I added 2 extra gold mines becuz I wanna relate to the Starcraft-esque gameplay where if u focus on macro-management, u'll get alot of income. For the locations, I'm gonna add side pathways up the hill soon. For the abilities, i think i'll consider ur suggestions. Thanks for the tips!

 

[Jargalhurts]

IMO, there should be a new race based on spirits or energy and stuff, they could be a hidden race. I like the maps race comparision to Starcraft:
Celtic Angels = Terrans
Shadow Cult = Protoss
Terraformers = Zerg
And the new race should be a comparision to Xel'Naga, maybe......but all of this is just me saying.

 

[Wazzz]

Imo, a better race comparison would be with that of Command and Conquer 3:

Celtic Angels = GDI (Brute power, essentially)
Shadow Cult = Nod (Stealth and causing havoc on the battlefield)
Terraformers = Scrin (Nasty stuff... just nasty.. )

And the different factions for each race make this an even better comparison than this map mod with Starcraft.

Btw, avpchin did have a fourth race at some stage, but it was nerfed as it wasn't as well received.
But adding new races is a... meh idea. Mainly because I'd rather play a game with 2 incredibly well done and distinctly different races than a game with 20 races that end up being quite dull.
Not an uncommon suggestion, but not an entirely bad one either (as there are only three races, so it is a possibility). Nonetheless, I wouldn't reccomend it (unless, of course, avpchin is fully satisfied with how the races are as of now [as he should be, although some minor additions could still be made here and there], in which case thinking of a bonus race could be a good idea).

@avpchin: Just a quick thought, I noticed that with the different factions you have researches that are unique to a faction. My first suggestion would be to remove the 'requirement' thing and just make it that when a player chooses the required faction, you unlock the research via triggers (just an aesthetics thing, though).

And my other suggestion is that you add some more researches. Not too much, just a couple more. If done with my first suggestion, space for the icons will not be an issue, either

 

[avpchin]

To Jargalhurts: Maybe I might develop a new race. But that's not till later stages. There are still some things in the races that need tweaking.(E.g: Gene Manipulator's Imbue Poison ability, changed that to a new one). However, like your idea about the spirits and energy thing.

To Wazzz: Possibly I might be doing something slightly similar to UAWEA(Universe at War Earth Assault)'s Hierarchy Race for the fourth race. But other than that, it's not confirmed yet. And yes, I'll use triggers to disable other sub-faction's researches, (kept forgetting to do that lolz). For the researches, maybe I'll be adding more. Thanks for the suggestions!

 

[Jargalhurts]

there should be more support spells for sub-factions. example:
Shadow Cult Robotics: Instant Repair - Repairs all allied mechanical units in an area.