Race Conquest

[Ripoff]

Am making/almost done with a map called race conquest, This map is inspired by the map Conflict of Sereg d'or by Panther antro.

Spawning system:
You get 1 gold every 1.5 sec. You have 4 main buildings, each of them have a couple of things you can research. If you research a thing, lets say.... Guardian Golem, these golems will spawn every 120sec in your base. If you research frost golems too, you get Guardian Golems and frost golems every 120seconds in your base. The reason I have 4 main buildings is: example: If I want to kill an enemy that is stronger then myself, I can use a tactic to kill a weaker player, kill all his forces, except I'll leave 2 main buildings. His Spawns will be halved, and he will be forced to work with me.

Races:
1 - Furbolgs and Night elves.
Some Night elves have gone to refuge to the furbolgs, because a massive portal has opened in their base, and it has corrupted most nelves into satyrs. Those few that remain is fighting along with their Furbolg friends.

2 - Undeads:
The undeads is only here to corrupt the land. The undead have the weakest hero, but then again the best hero. The Hero has the ability to summon a massive undead army in a fallen city, thus creating tons of undead units and upgrading the hero. He also get special units when other races research things. (Like Golems research war golems, then the undead get a few Flesh golems.)

3 - Golems and dragons
I've heard from a few friends that dragons and golems dont fit. Well, in this story, the dragons are the protectors of the world, and the golems are mindless beings created by the elder dragons to serve them. Over the years, the corruption from the undead have driven them mad, thus wanting to destroy everything, instead of protecting them.

3 - Satyrs (Not yet created)
The satyrs emerged from a portal in a Night elf base. When the portal opened, it corrupted several night elves into an evil and more cunning version.

Events that I've created:
After some time, the golems find a mineral vein inside their caves, thus increasing their armor.

Furbolgs get a choice later in game to either free more night elves (thus getting another hero) or create a furbolg army.

The undeads can use their hero to summon a massive army in a fallen human city. And they can get some undead units when other people researches stuff, like mentioned above.

I need more events! Its not enough! I would love to hear ideas for more races, units, events, heroes. Yeah, anything. Am also thinking about recruiting a partner for this map. You have to know triggers and stuff.

Progress on finished things (yes, I know that doesn't sound logical.)
Terrain done:
98% done on all I've created, the map has about 30% terrain that haven't been done anything on, it is left this way for future races. I have worked alot on terrain, since its one the things that I love.
Units done:
I would say 50% of all the units are done.
Spells and such:
About 40% of the spells are done.

I took some screenshots for you:

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http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/774/wc3scrnshot060708180539pe9.png

That should be it, now, give me some ideas!

Edit: If you got a better name for the map, then just say so.

 

[Kwah]

The name of the map should not involve the word "races" as a)it sounds well racist and b)it's kinda boring.

Perhaps something like: Epic Wars, or Total Victory, or All-Out War. SOmething irrelevant to the gameplay. Or it could be plot inspired.

 

[Ripoff]

The name of the map should not involve the word "races" as a)it sounds well racist and b)it's kinda boring.

Perhaps something like: Epic Wars, or Total Victory, or All-Out War. SOmething irrelevant to the gameplay. Or it could be plot inspired.

Conquest wars? lol, yeah, I suck with names

 

[Kwah]

Lol, me too.

What is the plot of the game?
Why are they fighting?

 

[Ripoff]

Every1 are fighting for their survival.

The Dragons have gone mad and think every1 is corrupted.
The undeads... are evil as usuall
Satyrs are corrupted night elves ( by a portal, last screenshot)
Furbolg have come since the remaining nelves need help reclaiming their territory.

 

[Kwah]

Hmmm, maybe call it War/fight of the forest. Or better yet Recclemation of the Glade/Forest.

 

[Ripoff]

The Reclaiming of Suran (name of the land, yes I just made it up)

 

[Kwah]

Nice

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[Ripoff]

7 posts of discussing and we only got a new name?

 

[Kwah]

lol

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[~Void~]

The name of the map should not involve the word "races" as a)it sounds well racist and b)it's kinda boring.

Perhaps something like: Epic Wars, or Total Victory, or All-Out War. SOmething irrelevant to the gameplay. Or it could be plot inspired.

It sounds "racist"? You sir, deserve this.

 

[emperor_d3st]

Lol. Well I don't like Race Conquest either.. It just sounds simple. That Reclaiming of Something sounds much better but I think you should only worry about the name later.

 

[Ripoff]

Lol. Well I don't like Race Conquest either.. It just sounds simple. That Reclaiming of Something sounds much better but I think you should only worry about the name later.

What should I focus on then? What do the people want? Cool spells? loads of different units?

 

[Kwah]

Cool Spells.

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[emperor_d3st]

Well, I think the 'risk' genre isn't really about spells. Good unit and player balance, make them suitable for the player to include them in his/her strategies.

 

[Kwah]

Meh, not really racist I agree. Kinda lame though.

 

[Ripoff]

Well, I think the 'risk' genre isn't really about spells. Good unit and player balance, make them suitable for the player to include them in his/her strategies.

Good, been working on balance and spells that you need with your strategies.
Like, sleep, totems, jump, summon, dots, etc etc

 

[Kwah]

Spells is the awnser. If spells are cool the game is cool (if not good)


For gameplay listen to other people though.

Spells are just cool.

 

[Ripoff]

Am gonna start a small poll here.

What do you think of the 4 main building system?
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2482/wc3scrnshot060708173335xu7.png

Should I keep it? or change it to 1 or 2 main buildings?

 

[emperor_d3st]

It's not clear what you mean by 4 main building system.

 

[Ripoff]

Well, if I get 2 main buildins, and lose 1, I loose half of my forces, but if I loose 1 building with the 4 building system I only loose 1 / 4 of my forces.

 

[redmarine]

Each building represents its own army. If it falls the army will fall shortly after. When two of attacked player's building have been torn apart he'll lose 2/4 of his army and become the attacker's ally with or against his/her will.
Well that is how I understood it.

 

[Ripoff]

Yup, you got it, except from the last part. its not against their will, they can choose to die if they want

 

[Lestat(br)]

I like your 4 building thing just boring.

What these types of games need to be original and good to play is freedom.
Freedom for the players to choose where they are gonna settle a city, what kind of troops and strategies are being used...
So, the game need choices. If your map is narrow and simple it won't be such a good map.

I believe that if each player starts only with their city foundator and need to settle an establishment from the beginning it would be more exciting than having predefined 4 continous-production buildings.

 

[Ripoff]

I like your 4 building thing just boring.

What these types of games need to be original and good to play is freedom.
Freedom for the players to choose where they are gonna settle a city, what kind of troops and strategies are being used...
So, the game need choices. If your map is narrow and simple it won't be such a good map.

I believe that if each player starts only with their city foundator and need to settle an establishment from the beginning it would be more exciting than having predefined 4 continous-production buildings.

Not gonna happen, there are plenty of maps like that, ever tried abyssium? Though thank you for saying your opinion. I do have alot of objectives, so players are free to choose where their path will go.

 

[Deolrin]

I think some custom models for the furbolgs would do nice . also, maybe raise the gold earned each 1.5 seconds. waiting a half of a hour just for like 10k gold is boooooring.

 

[Ripoff]

I think some custom models for the furbolgs would do nice . also, maybe raise the gold earned each 1.5 seconds. waiting a half of a hour just for like 10k gold is boooooring.

If you got custom models for furbolgs, show me. Causs I cant find any
And dont worry about the gold, you get plenty of soldiers to toy with before you reach the top priced ones.

 

[Deolrin]

Well, i can skins some furbolgs... i can also do some weapon wielding\armored\leather armored furbolgs... just tell me what you want...

 

[Ripoff]

A furbolg Hero would be cool, and maybe an archer? Some kind of ranged unit would be awesome mate, will credit you for it.

 

[Deolrin]

OK, but how will they look? i dont have a very creative mind... what armor, weapon, etc, do u want they to have?

 

[redmarine]

OK, but how will they look? i dont have a very creative mind... what armor, weapon, etc, do u want they to have?

Will it be triggered? Each time a unit gets trained they'll get different attachments? Weapons, helmet, shelds etc?

 

[Deolrin]

I dont think so, i want to MODEL them, not to tell him how to attach stuff...

 

[Ripoff]

I know how to attach stuff. hmm, the furbolg have a really strange attack animation, so you will have to use a different one if they get weapons.

Spears, axes and staffs I think would suit em best. They shouldnt have iron armor, mostly leather I would say.

Oh and redmarine, they dont get trained, none of them. They get spawned every 120sec, the units varies of that you have researched or unlocked from events.

 

[redmarine]

I know how to attach stuff. hmm, the furbolg have a really strange attack animation, so you will have to use a different one if they get weapons.

Spears, axes and staffs I think would suit em best. They shouldnt have iron armor, mostly leather I would say.

Oh and redmarine, they dont get trained, none of them. They get spawned every 120sec, the units varies of that you have researched or unlocked from events.

Reminds me of old maps... They were great. Keep it comming! Will there be demons? Demons aren't really Undeads.

 

[Ripoff]

There are no demons except 1 in the undead army, and those are "dragged from the abyss, and forced to serve the undead." They are summoned by Dark magicians, casters of the undead.

 

[Invert]

So are there only 4 factions/players so far? Maybe I missed the storyline in one of the three pages.

 

[Ripoff]

So far there are 3 races/factions that are done. Keep in mind that each faction has about 8 things to research (8x3) and twice that many units (16x3?) And events ofc So I've put alot of work into each race, there are ofc more to be added, ideas for events/races/units is why I posted this.

 

[gaunt_elakor]

sounds like a nice map, but more units/spells is needed.

 

[Ripoff]

Well, i can skins some furbolgs... i can also do some weapon wielding\armored\leather armored furbolgs... just tell me what you want...

So how are the furbolgs coming along?

 

[Deolrin]

Well, i DO started a furbolg hero based on rexxar... but he doesn't look to good...

 

[Ripoff]

I can imagine, furbolgs have such a strange body build

 

[Ripoff]

Bumping this pack to the top, bringing some more info.

I've decided that my 4th race will be (and is) Trolls and gnolls, am almost done with the team too. These trolls have several unique abilities you've never seen before, and triggered units and stuff.

Am open for ideas to events for the trolls/gnolls. I got 1 idea, where a messenger spawns after a while in the game, and I have to escort the messenger across the map to a different tribe of trolls, and thus gaining a new minor base. Other players will be alerted when I gain this new messenger.

What'cha think about that?

 

[Deolrin]

Cool. Oh, and modeling furbolgs sucks , i prefer to model trolls

 

[gaunt_elakor]

The idea with the trolls was damn good. You say there is more tribes, does all of those together become as good as one of the other races or does the trolls start with the same strengt as the rest?

About the undead, i dont think having them sumon deamons is the best idea, maby a spell or a dot of som kind? the deamons just dont fit the theme

 

[Ripoff]

The idea with the trolls was damn good. You say there is more tribes, does all of those together become as good as one of the other races or does the trolls start with the same strengt as the rest?

About the undead, i dont think having them sumon deamons is the best idea, maby a spell or a dot of som kind? the deamons just dont fit the theme

The troll tribe you start with have just the same amount of strength as any other teams at the start. But with events, trolls will be stronger then most races. Why? Because their events has a big chance to fail.

Yeah, am re'doing the undead spells, so no more demons