Pokemon RPG

[kimpakim7]

Ye im online all the time now! And about the hair request i dont have my 3d program right now ^^

 

[Yixx]

Yeah, and the balancing, model choosing and stuff of the Pkmns =P
Cooperation! Even better! =D

When will you be able to do the model requests? Cause some things i just Need! =P

 

[Darkxs]

Well can you create a flame on the red dragon models tail and recolor it into orange?
Gess what Pokemon I am thinking of
(I think I am able to recolor it myself, but I just want to know)

Edit: I would prefer to do the model choosing myself but the rest is all okay for me.

 

[kimpakim7]

I can't do particle emitters But we could resize a fire from here and add it as Sfx to the tail!

Yixx tell me and i try to do them the fastest way i can! B

 

[Darkxs]

That would be great X) As long as the dragon can get a small flame at it's tail. But I will tell you more about that when it's time for me to create the Pokemons. (If you want to help me/us of cause)

 

[Yixx]

Darkxs, you can do the model things alone, only we think WITH you =P
WTH are particle emmiters? (the attachement points on a unit like 'Head' and 'Chest' ?)
Oh, and does the red dragon have a 'Tail' attachment?

 

[Darkxs]

No i dosen't that is the problem...
(I know attachments I just diden't know that word for it =P)

Edit:
"Darkxs, you can do the model things alone, only we think WITH you =P"
Thanks m8.

Can this work for harden Yixx?

 

[kimpakim7]

Particle emitters are like effects shooting particles like fires and explosions

 

[Yixx]

Yeah right, i still dont know what particle emiters are,, but dont mind telling me xD

@ Darkxs, i think it is ok
I was thinking of some shining thing (probably seen Kakuna use Harden too much -.- )
But this is also great! =D

EDIT: Posts today are really suckass,, nothing nice,new or fun to discuss, thats why
RE-EDIT: @ kimpakim7: More improvements on the skin of trainer
Some more details on the jacket, like a little better zipper, some more colors, (and other base color please, i dont really like the green =P)
Some more details on the jeans, maybe something that it looks old and that it looks like it has been worn alot?
SNEAKERZ! =D,, i want SNEAKERS!

 

[Wazzz]

I think model choosing should be a bit of a community effort. I mean, after all, I am fully capable of doing it myself as well. However, one of use might have a better suggestion for a particular Pokemon than another, which is why we should have a team on it. ATM it seems that Yixx, Darkxs and myself have suggestions for models, and HFR has done his fair share on it, especially in finding the Cubone and Magneton models (nice job, dude!). So, shall we make that the team?

As for Charizard being the Red Dragon model with a flame on its tail, I was hoping for something away from the cliche model that always seems to get used. Perhaps the Doom Guard? I only really suggest that one because it has wings and is on the ground, so it's most likely not the best choice :S. I think the Red Dragon model prlly is the way to go on this one .

As for other models, I've seen the Vulture used for Spearow and Fearow, which works quite well. However, I've also seen the Gryphon Rider for Pidgey, which I do not reccomend. Rather, I reccomend the Eagle model.

 

[thedeathunterxx]

i agree with yazz....

the dragon model in wC3 is really ugly ...i hope you get a better dragon model for it. The demon guard is a good idea... but i think its not good enough. a better model would be an icecrown dragon spawn...without the sword and with demon guard wing attachments....

 

[Darkxs]

Pokemon number 006 - Charizard
Here are my/your suggestions:
Doom Guard - The doom guard dosen't look like a dragon at all. It got armor, a green flaming weapon, hoofs, a humannoid looking body, a small tail and a cow looking face.
Dragon Spawn - The Dragon spawn does look like a dragon but to much humanoid, it got 4 legs, no wings and no fly animation.
Red Dragon - This is a full blood dragon. It got wings, a good looking dragon body, it's flying, but it dosen't got arms.
Lindormr Dragon - This a full blood dragon too. It got wings, small arms, a awsome looking dragon body, a fly animation but we need olofmoleman's permision to edit the skin colour.
Scavenger Dragon - This is a full blood dragon. It got wings (A little to big) a good looking dragon body, it's flying, but it dosen't got arms and we need skrabs permision to edit the skin colour.
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Wazzz - As for Charizard being the Red Dragon model with a flame on its tail, I was hoping for something away from the cliche model that always seems to get used. Perhaps the Doom Guard? I only really suggest that one because it has wings and is on the ground, so it's most likely not the best choice :S. I think the Red Dragon model prlly is the way to go on this one .

Darkxs - Well yes when it comes to Pokemon maps the red dragon just always ends up as Charizard. That is why I think Kimpakim7 should recolour it to orange and add a flame on it's tail. So it dosen't looks 100% like the normal one. Besides that it is importent to remember that some people are using this as Charizard. But that dosen't matter if we thinks it is the right choice too.
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Wazzz - I think model choosing should be a bit of a community effort. I mean, after all, I am fully capable of doing it myself as well. However, one of use might have a better suggestion for a particular Pokemon than another, which is why we should have a team on it. ATM it seems that Yixx, Darkxs and myself have suggestions for models, and HFR has done his fair share on it, especially in finding the Cubone and Magneton models (nice job, dude!). So, shall we make that the team?

Darkxs - Well as I said earlier I would like to do this myself. But every time ill make a Pokemon I will tell you what one I am using (I could tell when I am doing it, but then I have to wait until every one have given me there opinion, and if one of them are offline I could take longe time to create just 1 Pokemon) Then when I have made it. I will let you all know what one I have choosed so we can disguss it. Then if it is needed I will edit it right away. Is that okay?
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Wazzz - As for other models, I've seen the Vulture used for Spearow and Fearow, which works quite well. However, I've also seen the Gryphon Rider for Pidgey, which I do not reccomend. Rather, I reccomend the Eagle model.

Darkxs - I can only say that I have made exactly the same thoughts about that. And my conclusion is 100% the same as yours.
I gess that you and me are very much alike in that Pokemon model case...
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(I hvae thought of all of them (Even more) long time ago (Since I where making a Pokemon map too, before I joind this awsome project)) and the red dragon model was the best that I could find.

 

[Wazzz]

Lol, agreed there . Well, the other problem with the Lindormr Dragon is the model takes over 1 MB (Waaay to big for a map involving possibly many imports) :S. So, I'm afraid the Red Dragon is the only real option. When I suggested the Doom Guard, I did not think it would go down well lol. However, thought it was worth a try .

Also, I don't think we really have to alter the skin colour. Even if you wanted it to be more orange, you could just alter it in the Object Editor. Also, are there any Pokemon that are transparent? If you need to accomplish that, it has to be done via triggers, which is no problem at all. You just need to set the colour of a pokemon entering a region (or something with a possible event) and set the transparency of it to what you want.

I too have hoped of doing a Pokemon RPG, but could not be bothered with all the triggers as I am not as proficient in them as would be necessary. Fortunately, I had many ideas to implement and they are now coming to life!

 

[HFR]

Actually, Charizard is orange, so we could use an recolored red dragon or an bronze dragon. In fact, Kimberly was making an very nice charizard model, but she stopped...
Wazzz@ as far as I know, the apprentice mage doesn't have pointy ears. Also, using the peasant model is an good idea, but he have to wear an hat as attachment to look good.

 

[Wazzz]

I already said Charizard is orange, as I stated that above (read it, I'm not typing it again ). However, the Bronze Dragon would prlly be better to base the Charizard model off of.

Also, what are we basing Charmander/Charmeleon off of? As they look similar in build, you could just make Charmeleon more red than Charmander while having Charmander more orange-y.

 

[Yixx]

I think Red/Bronze dragon is going to be the model for Charizard,,
But what to use for Charmender and Charmeleon? As Wazzz said, just make them little bigger and change color little, but what model do we use for them?
Well, since we are discussing models now,,:
What model to use for Kakuna, Metapod, Beedril, Butterfree, Sandshrew and Geodude?

the dragon model in wC3 is really ugly ...i hope you get a better dragon model for it. The demon guard is a good idea... but i think its not good enough. a better model would be an icecrown dragon spawn...without the sword and with demon guard wing attachments....

Well, first of all, there are enough dragon models in WC3, so no import for Charizard,,
Doom Gaurd has a sword, it is way too big, and it is ugly,,
Dragon spawn is Blue!,, Even when recoloring it, it would look ugly, and if we wanna delete the sword we need to Alfa it, which means a new skin, which is totaly unneeded,,
And There are no demon gaurd attachments in WC3, that would mean another import for one Pokemon, so not going to happen,, srry

 

[Darkxs]

Well Yixx is it still okay for you that I do the model choosing, blance and so one? As I said I am going to tell you all which once i am going to use. So we can disguss it.
(I have thought of useing the bronze dragon for dragonite, since it is more yellow, then orange)
I can tell you what I am going to use for Kakuna, Metapod, Beedril, Butterfree, Sandshrew and Geodude when I get back home (I am in school right now -.-'')

 

[Wazzz]

Yeah, some of these models are hard to choose for. I mean, come on, what looks even close to Metapod or Kakuna? It's quite awkward. I totally forgot about the Dragonite, too, so I'm glad someone mentioned that .

Well, I'll tell you what will look good for now. Charmander/Charmeleon should use the Satyr model and the Sandshrew should probably take the Furbolg model (made to look a little more yellow in the Object Editor). Apart from that, the others you mentioned are very f***ing hard

 

[Zelda.Alex]

Wanted to ask one thing

Originally by Yixxx
It will not contain walking through the Pokémon world together, only battling and trading!

Does that mean that like the original pokemon games i will not be able to move in caves & all other places?

 

[Yixx]

From @ School:

Wanted to ask one thing
Does that mean that like the original pokemon games i will not be able to move in caves & all other places?

Well, caves will not be there much, since all places are reserved for normal land,, only caves that you will be able to walk around too (so no underground)
But, that sentence that you quoted,, it is for Multi Player, the single player map will contain walking through the world and doing 'quests'

Multi player was the very first idea of the map, but this was too impossible with the RBB system, and also with some of the features of the map,,
So i thought of making a multiplayer map,, which is apart from the other one,,
This one will NOT contain walking, only fighting and trading, maybe some competetive round fight, where you get to fight against higher Pokémon as you get further, but that is a little far away now,,

@ Wazzz: Satyr was also my first thought of Charmender and Charmeleon,, then red Dragon,
Turtle models for squirtle, wartortle and blastoise i think?
Bulbasaur three ones are now Lizard model with slight color mod to green
Weedle will be the little snake/worm thing (dont know the name,,)
Caterpie i found a great model for,,
Others are still not known
(Furbolg is great idea!!)

@ Darkxs,, yeah of course! But we are now already discussing the models, thats all

 

[Zelda.Alex]

Will there be gyms & other things like in leaf green & others? If yes then do you hope to release alpha in or before May?

 

[Yixx]

Yes! It will be just like normal Pokémon games, only an whole different world, the first 151 pkmn, new gyms,, and more quests!

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

What model to use for Kakuna, Metapod, Beedril, Butterfree, Sandshrew and Geodude?

Butterfree - Fairy Dragon.
Beedril - Riderless Wyvern fits best, i think
Sandshrew - Furbolg
Geodude - Something round... and rocky xD I don't know
Kakuna/Metapod - I don't know. A long rock might work, i think (recolored ofc)

all i can think of. Also, Im still here, just say if something is needed

 

[Darkxs]

Im glad to hear that Yixx

Well here is what I think:
Bulbasaur - Thunder Lizard (The green one)
Ivysaur - Thunder Lizard (The green one) - (Maby dark green but I am not sure)
Venusaur - Thunder Lizard (The green one)
Charmender - Red Dragon Whelp
Charmeleon - Red Dragon Whelp - Dark Red
Charizard - Red Dragon
Squirtle - Turtle (The blue one)
Wartortle - Turtle (The blue one) - Dark Blue
Blastoise - Turtle (The blue one)
Caterpie - Durn Worm - Green
Metapod - A Rock - Green or
TrilobitePhacops - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site - Green
Butterfree - Ferie Dragon
Weedle - Durn Worm - Yellow
Kakuna - A Rock - Green or
TrilobitePhacops - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site - Green
Beedril - I haven't found that one yet.
Sandshrew - The Polar Furbolg - Yellow (Maby I am not sure about this one)
Geodude - Rock Golem (The grey one)
Ryhorn - Riderless Kodo or http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=47618&prev=u=olofmoleman&r=20&d=list&page=6

Scyther - Satyr - Green
Spearow - Vulture or http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=47658&prev=u=olofmoleman&r=20&d=list
Fearow - http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=47658&prev=u=olofmoleman&r=20&d=list
Tauros - http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=47619&prev=u=olofmoleman&r=20&d=list&page=2
Aerodactyl - The Riderless Wyvern or Black Dragon
Dratini - Blue Dragon Whelp
Dragonair - Blue Dragon Whelp or Blue Dragon
Dragonite - Bronze Dragon

This is only a little bit of my ideas.

 

[Yixx]

Well, first of all:
Charmender and Charmeleon arent dragons, so no dragon models for them,, (They dont even have wings!)
Dune worm is nice idea, and Wazzz found a nice worm model on hive also, so might also be able to,,
The Trilobite is first: Way too big! and second: It is not a cocoon, it is a bug,,
Well, i have been thinking about riderless kodo, but i dont like it! =\
I think black mammoth is way better! (my opinion!)
Rest of them is nice ideas! =D

Well discuss this some more ^^

 

[Darkxs]

Well... I have also thought of some of olofmoleman's dinosaur models.
But A satyr... That is just to far away from what Charmender and Charmeleon looks like.
Can you give me a link for the worm model Wazzz found?
Well then how about the Egg Sack or a green/yellow coloured rock for metapod and Kakuna.
"Well, i have been thinking about riderless kodo, but i dont like it! =\
I think black mammoth is way better! (my opinion!)"

Well the mammoth have fur and 3 horns... It could also be used for agron in the futuren.
I still think that the ridless kodo is the best for Ryhorn (That is just my opinion)

 

[Adolfukin]

i liek mudkips add mudkips and show me ur pokemanz

 

[Yixx]

You have got to be kidding,,
Are you someone who sees a name and thinks:
I sometime played some version of that some game cool!
AND NOW I WANT THIS AND THIS TO BE IN IT
(EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT NOT LIKE IT!!!!)

PLEASE!, get serious, try to give a nice feedback on the map, try to give a usefull reply, but not this!! You try to tell me what to do without even reading anything, so:
i am NOT going to add your precious MUDKIP to it, since i hate him!
So: you now got 2 choices:
1) Delete the post and gtfo
2) Get serious, give nice feedback or just try to give nice ideas!

 

[Darkxs]

Well Yixx what kind of gym leaders did you have in mind for the map.
Fire, water, rock, grass and so one, like in the old game or whole new once?

About Charmender and Charmeleon:
How about we use some of olofmoleman's dinosaur models for them?
Like:
Dryosaurus - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
Raptor - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
Allosaurus - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site - Do I best like
Trex - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site


And about Ryhorn (I think) we should use the Rideless Kodo and then for Ryhdon we could use:
KotoBeastNoRider - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site cause they fit very well together.

 

[HFR]

Wow, you guys post too fast... Im don't have so much time now, so I can only help with this: We can ask an modeler to delete the lower part (legs and things) of the rock golem, to looks like geodude. Expect more of me in the weekend, as I'll give lots of ideas. (I think I'm the most active user on weekends, he he...)

 

[Darkxs]

Well... Since you are a part of our team HFR. What model do you think is best for Ryhorn:
A rideless Kodo
or
A mammoth?

 

[HFR]

Kodo. I has an better texture and looks like an rhyno. Ryhorn is based onto the rhyno, not an mammoth.

 

[Darkxs]

Thanks for shareing your opinion with us HFR.

Here are some things for you Yixx: I have made a new harden icon, a ice punch and a thunder punch icon. I hvae also found a great!!! looking map preview take a look:
(The size is 256x256)

Edit: Yes HFR I have seen your nice terrains.

 

[HFR]

Amazing map preview, fits perfectly with the theme. And the icons...

They're amazing!!!

Also, already saw my terrains?

 

[Darkxs]

Thanks man.
The what model do you think that Charmender and Charmeleon sould be using:
Dryosaurus - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
Raptor - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
Allosaurus - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
Trex - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
The In-Game Red Dragon Whelp
?

 

[Jack_Sparrow93]

When can we expect us a prewiev? It looks awesome and I gotta test this map. But dont overload it with custom icons and models, bnet got a restriction on how big the maps can be.

My map is around 1.6 MB and I think that is much, and I cant think of how big this will be with all theses icons, skins, models etc.

But I wish u good luck

 

[HFR]

Charmander = Dryosaurus

Charmeleon = T Rex or Alossaur.

 

[Darkxs]

"When can we expect us a prewiev? It looks awesome and I gotta test this map. But dont overload it with custom icons and models, bnet got a restriction on how big the maps can be.

My map is around 1.6 MB and I think that is much, and I cant think of how big this will be with all theses icons, skins, models etc.

But I wish u good luck "

Well since our boss Yixx isen't online right now Jack_Sparrow93, I will try to answer your questing as good as I can:

Thanks dude. Well the campagin part of this project is a single player game, so in that point size dosen't matter (As far as I know) But we are trying to give it a little size as possible. About the release of the Demon. That dose only our boss Yixx know the answer on.

Edit: Thanks for your opinion HFR.

 

[HFR]

Thanks guy.., Gotta go now, see ya saturday!

 

[Yixx]

Well, this weekend is a really unfortunate weekend for me =\
I got the school musical, which i have to play music for,,
Then there is sports, and i gotta learn for test week in 2 weeks =\ (not that much, but i gotta start soon)

Well, now on the replys:
1) The dinosaurs dont really resemble the Charmender and Charmeleon i think =\
Charmender and charmeleon might also be dino thing thingys, but they walk with a straight back, and havent got such a huge mouth,,
2) the Geodude idea is great! =D,, only the walk and stand animations would have to be edited so it will float (or so)
3)Ok, you guys win, Kodo its gonna be!
4) OMG! Preview FTW!,, those icons look great!, only i think the thunder punch (or electric, whatever) should have more electricity around, now it looks somehow like a light punch =\,, Harden looks Neat!, Ice punch is great and you can really see its ice! =D
5) Well, our map is going to be a LITTLE (no MUCH) bigger then 1.6MB, it is already 1 MB, without any music imports,, so i guess it will become larger,,
But, with only models, we HAVE to stay below 4 MB, otherwise the Multi player will look silly to the Single Player,,
6) Demo,,, i am really sorry, it will still take some time! =(
7) I will make a link to the worm model in EDIT

(Very quick) EDIT: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=67305&prev=search%3Dworm%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20,, the worm model, tell me what you think!

 

[Wazzz]

Well, I don't think it will matter if we use the Satyr model for Charmander/Charmeleon as well as the Satyr, as they will be different colours. And besides, there's more than one Satyr model in Warcraft. Satyr isn't that far off Charmander/Charmeleon at all, especially in comparison to Red Dragon Whelp (sorry, but I cannot find the wings anywhere on Charmander/Charmeleon to make the model work ).

Also, how many ppl actually know that it's the first map out of the four that includes only the first 151 Pokemon? Cause in the other 3 maps we will be including the Pokemon Gold/Silver Pokemon. How many ppl are aware of that? I have mentioned it a few times now, and want to know that everyone is aware that the whole of the project will include the first 251 Pokemon.

@Adolfukin: WTF? Your post was no help at all, not even in the widest stretch of the imagination. It seems like the worst idea ever, including something just cause you like it. I think suggestions like that is the reason babies cry.

 

[Yixx]

Well, I don't think it will matter if we use the Satyr model for Charmander/Charmeleon as well as the Satyr, as they will be different colours. And besides, there's more than one Satyr model in Warcraft. Satyr isn't that far off Charmander/Charmeleon at all, especially in comparison to Red Dragon Whelp (sorry, but I cannot find the wings anywhere on Charmander/Charmeleon to make the model work ).

Also, how many ppl actually know that it's the first map out of the four that includes only the first 151 Pokemon? Cause in the other 3 maps we will be including the Pokemon Gold/Silver Pokemon. How many ppl are aware of that? I have mentioned it a few times now, and want to know that everyone is aware that the whole of the project will include the first 251 Pokemon.

@Adolfukin: WTF? Your post was no help at all, not even in the widest stretch of the imagination. It seems like the worst idea ever, including something just cause you like it. I think suggestions like that is the reason babies cry.

FINALY Someone that mentions that Adolfukin is a newb ass baby,, (He REALLY pissed me off!)
Now, i personally think using in-game models for the Charmender,, Chameleon, an all begin Pkmn is ok enough,, for the pidgey, as Darkxs metioned, we could use War Eagle model (i think you meant that one right? In the MPQ file it is listed as 'War Eagle')
For Rattata, any ideas? The rat model in WC3 sucks, it is more a rain drop having fur and a tail,, xD
Well, then the Caterpie/Weedle evolution whole thing,,
Caterpie and weedle could actually use the same model (Dune worm) With recolor, but i think the worm model from earlier post (found by Wazzz) is nice, because it is small, and it gives a nice effect by which i mean:
That they look different,,, that would be nice i think!

 

[thedeathunterxx]

lets see here is just some ideas that maybe some will find useful...idk

- pidgey ( seagul model )
- pidgeotto ( bigger seagul model )
- pigeot - (hippogrpyh)

- spearow - ( raven model )
- fearow ( bigger raven )

lol someone could have figured that out with commmon sence but...i gave it a shot lol.
i guess i should just stick to terraining

 

[Wazzz]

lol, that's the spirit (what?!?). Anywayz, I think i was the first to mention the War Eagle for Pidgey, but anywayz, as long as we use it I'm happy .\

Did that Adolfukin seriously post here asking us to rep him? I was looking at his comments, and apparantly he did. No wonder he has so much neg rep, he doesn't help out at all and just expects us to rep him. 'I like Mudkip so he should be included'. FFS, don't post here ever again, Adolfukin, This site obviously is not for you, as it is about modders getting together and helping each other out, not just asking for rep and expecting to get it without any work behind it. I'd spit on you, but that would be a compliment.

Now, back to business. I personally think the rat model would do (then again, I sometimes have some eccentric opinions on things). I mean, I don't really want to spend excess room on the map when we could just use an ingame model just as effectively. However, if someone can find a better model that takes less than 50 KB, I'd be slightly sold. Less than 20 KB would be god-like. The main reason for this is as follows:

There are some Pokemon that require a certain model that is not ingame. Take geodude, for example. What the hell model can we use for that?!? However, there is a rat model ingame, and I say we should use it unless we have extra room at the end of the project and actually find a better model fullstop.

 

[thedeathunterxx]

if you cant find a good geodude model, u would have to resort to the rock golem model in warcraft.... even though it looks nothing like geodude : /

but then you have golem, which does look like a rock golem model.

 

[Wazzz]

Deathhunter, you genius, you gave me an idea! I think this is unknown to many who do not deal with models all that much, so here it is: We use the portrait. Unfortunately, the Rock Golem doesn't have a portrait model, but the Mountain Giant does. Here's the path: units\nightelf\MountainGiant\MountainGiant_Portrait

Now, I should warn you that you may be dissapointed with the lack of arms and the fact it's grey, but that aside, you could make it smaller and colour it as such:
Red = 255 Blue = 155 Green = 155

NOTE: The colours are just a guideline, change them as you wish to get the effect you're after.

Thankyou again, deathhunter, I doubt I would have thought of that without your suggestion

 

[ike_ike]

Actually, what you could do, is use the Rock Golem model. Then set its minimum and maximum height to a negative number, so the legs are permanently below ground and you can only see the torso. Did this for my Pokemon arena that I never finished ^^

 

[Darkxs]

Caterpie:
Yixx the worm model you have linked me is.... Absolutely horrible, it dosen't even looks like something for WC3. The Durn Worm would have been alot better (That's what I think)
Weedle:
But if you think we should use something els then the Durn Worm, we could use this:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=53977&prev=search=worm&d=list&r=20

Charmander/Charmeleon:
It's right that the satyr model stand just like Charmander and Charmeleon. But it dosen look like them at all. I mean can't you see it?
Satyr: Fur, armor and weapon, no tail, hoofs and humanoid looking face.
Charmander: Scale, nothing, tail, feets and reptile looking face.
(If we should use the satyr model for this, he should be edited very much
(That's what I think)) There is also this model:
Weredragon Red - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
(It could work since it dosen't got wings and are some kind of dragon looking creature In my opinion this would be our best choice)

Rattata: This model is all we need for that: Mouse - Wc3campaigns

Geodude: I don't know why we have to cut him in half, to me he is looking good enoth (Ohh... By the way I would have used the Mountain Gigant for Machop)

 

[Wazzz]

Really? I would have thought the Stonemaul Ogre to be more suitable. Either way, it wouldn't matter if you just used the portrait of the Mountain Giant, especially seeing as how it will be coloured differently.

That's an interesting suggestion, Ike_Ike, but I personally like the Mountain Giant's portrait model better because it just hovers in the air like the Geodude and all in all has the effect we're after. Not a bad suggestion, though.

I really, really think you're over thinking the model for the Charmander, as the Satyr model is the perfect build and we don't have to import anything. Besides, once we colour it red, players won't really see the fur all that much (partly to do with the lack of quality of some of the ingame War3 models). They'll see Charmander or Charmeleon because they know it's that. It doesn't have to look 100% like it, but it does have to at least represent the build. As for the Weredragon Red model, I think that doesn't even come close to how the Satyr suits Charmander.

As for the Mouse model, I like it a lot! While I remain sceptical of using an import when an ingame model would do the trick all the same, I like the overall look of that one. As for your comment on the Worm model, come on! It looks just like a Weedle or a Caterpie, and gives us a different model from the Dune Worm (although, there's nothing wrong with using the same model with different colouring, something you don't seem aware of). As for the Giant Sand Worm model, that is completely unnecessary and far to oversized.

All in all, are you coming up with alternative suggestions because you actually think they're better, or is it just because you want all the credit for choosing the models? I'm not taking a shot at you, but plz seriously consider why you'd come up with, for example, the Red Weredragon model for Charmander when the Satyr is very suitable.

 

[HFR]

The weredragon has an more "lizard like" appearance, as for satyr... meh... In pokemon legends, 13Lur used an satyr with modified face model.
The golem cut in half is, sorry wazzz, but better than your mountain giant. Actually, in nowadays, geodude doesn't float, he just jump, as this showed in the cartoon.

ps: I finnaly own an Pokemon Platinum!!! We can use some ideas from this game.