Nerubian Race - Feedback

[xvarts]

How about something better like you know the shrine? It could be a building of some type in your race.

 

[Kam]

From left to right:

Harvester, Fiend, Hunter, Striker, Stinger, Widow, Defiler, Hulsk, Seeker, Broodlord, Dragoon and the Queen out front

More on abilities and functions soon.

 

[supertoinkz]

NICE!
so the model edits will come here?
I also noticed the footman, is the captain is my suggestion

 

[Kam]

Yes, the captain upgrade was yours. I called it a Swordsman.

Well things are going very fast now that I have the models. I still need the NE roots texture that you did though. =)

Also the attachment point problem still persists with the pool.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

NIce models ..

 

[supertoinkz]

I had a problem Kam, i cant seem to find the model path (NE base)

 

[Kam]

textures/rootbase.blp is the path

 

[supertoinkz]

okay thanks
ill work for it after school
uhhh, kam? Does this race have naval units?

 

[Kam]

This is fairly close to what I think the final version will be. In closed play testing it's been a tremendous success.

Few things:

-There are command icons and UI sounds I have yet to replace.
-This in not an easy race to play, you are about numbers and micro.
-I know the birth animations are messed up, they are triggered and I haven't worked it out yet. If you have suggestions on specific triggers please post them.
-There are three beginning strategies: use initial lumber to hatch more harvesters, attack with weak units on creeps and use the progenerate ability, or rush an enemy with Beasts and disrupt their economy gathering harvesters from there as well.
-There is no reason to have a "main" base, your structures are cheap and build fast and can be built on any terrain. Do not bottle yourself up.
-The Broodlord is your most important unit at tech 2 and 3. Learn to make use of him.

 

[VeljkoM]

I have to ask. Why does the first melee unit have medium armor and piercing attack?

I still think that Seed lack real tank unit because Husk is more like heavy siege unit.

This is for now but more important problem that map crashed in middle of game so I didn't have time to see more.

 

[Kam]

Telling me it crashed it fine, telling me exactly what you were doing is better.

I have a suspicion you had a lot of widows.

 

[supertoinkz]

I'll try it this afternoon

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

New patch 1.24 has many false positive bugs. If your map is 100% GUI you have nothing to fear. If it is not (and I know it isn't) then your project, just as mine, is dead.

More information here:
http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=106305

 

[VeljkoM]

If this map is 1.24 how did I play it?

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Maps that are for 1.24 are played normally, just like other maps.

Problem is that the new patch is really messed up, so technically, nothing is playable ...unless for DOTA because it has a special compatibility mode.

 

[VeljkoM]

No I meant how did I play it when I have 1.23? (maybe that's why it crashed?)

I think that tree regrow crashes. I used cheats to make giant army and had at least 15 of everything and fighting was alright. And also I kept tree bugs away from trees so it wouldn't be restored.

And please bests (first melee) need normal attack and heavy armor. Who needs melee unit that are best countered with any melee and are best for attacking spellcasters which come out very late in game (and even then are useless because some spelcasters have medium armor).

 

[supertoinkz]

Okay, i found a permanent stun

i am seed with my brother, we are playing in garena with other players
i mass dragoons (100+) and attacked the read orc's base (hero is thrall)
Then while simultenously attacking and defending, i found a dragoon stunned. So i continue defending (about 5 minutes more) , when i returned to the red's base, its still stunned!
I dont know who stunned and unfortunately, i didn't captured a screenie

 

[Kam]

It saves your last replay, so you could look back?

Also, there is only one non GUI spell in my map. =) It's the Strikers Wild Spikes ability. The last update I made I redid or replaced all the jass/vjass spells and anything that relied on a 3rd party system.

I anticipated this.

 

[supertoinkz]

sorry, i played Dota after that.
also it crashed when im orc

 

[Kam]

Sigh, I hope blizzard fixes this soon. I get these false errors when I'm only using GUI.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

I also anticipated the patch, but I made no idea the false positive bug would be so bad ...

 

[supertoinkz]

Kam
i have gift for ya xP

 

[Kam]

Looks good, it fits more into the cartoony feeling of wc3. I'll have to see how it looks in-game.

 

[supertoinkz]

oh okay
this is my last freetime this week
so say your comments now

 

[Kam]

The top red vein seems to continue off the texture for a bit, probably a bug?

Otherwise I like it a lot.


EDIT: Also, any possibility you could re-texture the entangled gold mine skin to match the other zerg structures?

 

[supertoinkz]

ill fix it
for the gold mine, wait for it

 

[Kam]

Looks good, I assume the gold mine won't come for awhile?

 

[supertoinkz]

Okay, a liitle delay for lunch xD

 

[Kam]

NM

Looks good, perhaps a little darker would be good, but I can just do that with paint.

Thank you very much.

 

[rcshaggy]

http://www.wowwiki.com/Nerubian

And base their buildings more like this:

 

[Kam]

If the models existed I might, but they don't. There is the one in-game model that has no animations and nothing in the database. The starcraft models work pretty well imo.

 

[rcshaggy]

Here is a good model for a production building: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...gurat-49469/?prev=search=Nerubian&d=list&r=20

Here is their Altar: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...ider-106147/?prev=search=Nerubian&d=list&r=20

And most of the Undead buildings are based off the Nerubian's buildings.

 

[Kam]

I didn't want to base this off of the undead. The idea was to create something new and a totally different play style. This is a cleansing race, they leave no trace of their presence and are meant as a way for Azeroth itself to remove the waring parties.

 

[rcshaggy]

Ummm....well.....I got nothing.

 

[supertoinkz]

hmmmmmmm.....zzzz
(cheated my mom that i will just research my projects )

hhmmm kam, it would be beautiful if you change the skins of the units
violet/purple/blue + red/black = not good for me

just suggestions though

 

[Kam]

Which ones were you referring too?

 

[supertoinkz]

all with nerubian carapace

 

[Kam]

These are three of them. I do like the combination though, and if it helps at all the only colors you can play seed as are teal, yellow, and green.

 

[supertoinkz]

oh okay, its up to you

 

[Kam]

Have any suggestions for race structure, etc?

 

[Kam]

Ok here is the next beta update. I need some suggestions for where this race should go. The idea here is to produce a lot of the weaker units. Your race is on the fringe of overpowered in tier 1, but begin to be less of a threat as the other races tech.

Additions:
Mage and Death Knight starting abilities are new and deal more with Seed mass units.
Demolition Squad and Sappers have Firewall and Land Mine, again for Seed.

Orc have a new tower and humans have a optional replacement for the ballista, make sure you read the differences.

Also the spire does nothing, suggestions welcome.

 

[Mephestrial]

Also the spire does nothing, suggestions welcome.

Perhaps an extremely weak area of effect healing ability based off of the Fountain of Life?

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Hey, Kam, check out this interface:
http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=107462

It is finally submitted =)

 

[Kam]

Oh I know. =)

 

[supertoinkz]

o hai Kam, missed you xD
also hai to the spider warlord
still not changing the ground texture?

 

[Kam]

I used it for awhile and I think it the darker looks better after several hours of playing an AI.

I'm still looking for ability suggestions, but I'll have another playable beta soon.

 

[supertoinkz]

I think it would be cool if someone (unit) can lay eggs that hatch to weak units.