Need helpl !

[warcryergr]

AS i was playing dota .. i realised that Troll has a really confusing skill ,this skill is his 1st ability which turns him from range to melee and the oposite..

I try to make a skill like that but i cant! I have some ideas like : When he uses the skill he is going to change char The other char willl have range and other bonuses i want.. This is easy but Troll in dota made me think that there is another way that this think could be done As in single player When i write the code ISEEDEADPEOPLE there is noWhere a Troll which is range

The only answer Should me sth like this?----> :

Event:
A unit finishes casting an ability
COndition
Ability being cast Equal to xxx
Action :
Unit Create a Troll (which is range ) to Unit position of TRoll
Give ownership for last creates unit for Player...
And etc?
I am really confused can You help me plz?

 

[Eleandor]

Try the metamorphosis skill and create separate unit types for Melee and ranged troll?

 

[warcryergr]

Is this possible?

 

[Gost]

Use the nightelf unit ability Bear Form, meta,orphisis has a duration, trolls doesn't in dota if I remember correctly.

 

[Chaos Overlord]

Set the Metamorphisis duration to zero. Should make it infinite, just because Blizz is messed up like that.

 

[busterkomo]

Use bear form. I'm 90% sure that is what was used in DotA.

 

[Dr Super Good]

If they do use the change unit method, they do it by hiding one of the units, so it is not phisically visale but on minimap. More likly however is that they just used bearform or something like that.

 

[busterkomo]

Just double checked, it's based off bear form(it's still triggered to add bash though).

 

[Gilles]

Does using bear form work though? I remember trying to make a hero be able to change into a bear, but it screws up the XP since the skill was made for a unit.

Edit: I tried it out. I can make a unit use the bear form ability to switch between two models. But I can't make the unit have new skills for some reason. I also can't make more than one morph ability.

 

[Zynk]

Use bear form. Metamorphisis can't be Activated/Disactivated, it just morphs u into a unit for a period, and Bear Form can be Turned On/Off.

 

[Need_O2]

Uh ? why do you use triggers for that
I have one in my map
Metamorphosis with 0 duration

 

[Zynk]

The Metamorphosis with 0 duration lasts forever. The question here is how to make an ability to morph one unit into another but keeping the option to activate/disactivate it.

 

[Eleandor]

I said "metamorphosis" as in an ability that morphs... Bear form / crow form / whatever would in this case be better...

 

[Need_O2]

>.< yes metamorphosis with 0 duration lasts forever so you can stay in ranged mode as long as you want
and you can deactivate metamorphosis if its not in cooldown
so you make cooldown 0 too

 

[Red222]

Hmmm...you Can Make Here Have Both Attacks!!one Ranged And One Meele!!when Using The Ability Just Change The Attack!leave Targets The Same And Attack Type Too!!!!you Can Increase The Base Damage Cooldown And More!!remember To Use Trigger To Add Bash Ability!!

 

[Gost]

For the love of christ, use the nightelf unit ability "Bear Form" as your heroes ability, set "Normal Form Unit" = to your hero unit. Set "Alternate Form Unit" to the unit you want him to change to, IE the ranged(or melee) form. You can morph back and forth whenever you want, trigger the bash if you want it via hidden spellbook; /threadover.

 

[Technomancer]

Or use the tinkers transform ability.. which is designed for a hero...?

 

[Need_O2]

Hmmm...you Can Make Here Have Both Attacks!!one Ranged And One Meele!!when Using The Ability Just Change The Attack!leave Targets The Same And Attack Type Too!!!!you Can Increase The Base Damage Cooldown And More!!remember To Use Trigger To Add Bash Ability!!

use a trigger to add bash ability ???
okay thats the third ban him

 

[Gost]

@Need_02: Thats the third what?

@Technomancer: And yes, the tinkers ultimate would work aswell, it's just a matter of preference between the two.

 

[Need_O2]

Just add the bash ability to converted form
Use metamorphosis with 0 duration
all solved

 

[warcryergr]

Heh as i firstly siad THis is skill is completly CONFUSING!
But i think the idea with Bear form should be nice.. i have used this skill in the past JUst to change the Form of the char to a better one.. AFter using the skill the char Doesnt lose anything..

Metamorhosis is imposible though becasue Even if you turn him into RAnge , the only possible way to turn him back is to Add a skill which turns him into the previous form But i think Event you put Zero( 0 ) time there would also be a Bar which NEver ends You know Where the Name of the hero is seen +Experience


Anyway Thx to all of you!