Need Feedback: Dragon's Den

[andreariona]

Current version of one of the dungeon terrain on my project. I felt like quite unsatisfied with the result especially on the tile since I think it doesn't bend well.

Yes, I'm not using ingame provided tiles.

Any feedback how to improve them visually is pretty much appreciated. Thanks.

Previous Version

Current Revision Based from Feedbacks

Size Comparison Between the Unit and Terrain

 

[Pharaoh_]

Other than the tileset, which is very repetitive, the absence of cracks on the ground and manual bumps from place to place with a small width, it looks nice.

 

[andreariona]

thanks for the feedback. can't deny that the tile looks very much repetitive, perhaps I should make another earthly tile and mix them up.

the theme of the dungeon was originally based from this concept (without the magma):

spoiler

 

[Lordkoon]

I'd suggest changing the tile around the rocks and crystals to look more like they are coming from the ground and not sticked to it. Also it is too flat for a cave/den. Perhaps playing with the raise/lower tool can fix it. But yes the tile does need to go.

 

[Piwlady]

it seems tad flat and monotone, try to get some tile variation and height variaton there. Maybe you could also tweak fog to give it bit more atmosphere.

 

[Sin'dorei300]

It's too flat and needs more tile vars.

 

[andreariona]

alright, thanks for the feedbacks. since everyone mentioning about the tile, I've retouch the current tile and made another one that similar with the rocks as well as a little bump on the ground. here is the current revision of the terrain, and I also put a unit for the size comparison between. any more feedback is always welcome.

Current Revision

Size Comparison Between the Unit and Terrain

 

[Maestros]

Looking good, quick questions, those rocks and crystals, are they from wow? cause they look much like it

EDIT: That redhead with the sword is that Erza? From Fairy Tail?

 

[andreariona]

the crystal is obviously edited from WoW.
and yes, it's erza in flame empress armor from fairy tail.

 

[SA Dashie]

Looks nice so far. ^^

 

[Adiktuz]

really nice quality... and erza looks so cool... I just hope that map doesn't lag...

 

[Maestros]

really nice quality... and erza looks so cool... I just hope that map doesn't lag...

This is awsome! Really, but i have to agree with Adiktuz on the lag/fps drop thing...

 

[andreariona]

thank you for the compliments.

hmm. if you mean lag because of doodad usage, that ain't gonna happen because I would usually geomerge a single model that I need in extra numbers into one to avoid using it in a "spam" way.

 

[Adiktuz]

Lag because of the quality of the doodads used...

anyway nice idea, trade-off between file size and lag...

 

[Maestros]

thank you for the compliments.

hmm. if you mean lag because of doodad usage, that ain't gonna happen because I would usually geomerge a single model that I need in extra numbers into one to avoid using it in a "spam" way.

What i meant, (and probably adiktuz too) is that, high definition doodadds and models, usually have great filrsizes, for example, i know some wow models which i love, but they are like, 5-10MB each... and in a full map they would be soooo laggy : /

 

[Adiktuz]

Its mainly on the quality of the model... even if you don't spam, if they're high def, they could cause lag on older comps...

 

[Maestros]

well yeah, i guess besides filesize, def also matters escpecially if the comp has an ancient graphics card...

 

[Adiktuz]

personally, I only have lag for HD models, not for high file size models (yes I have some super high file size models that are not HD)... so it's not really on the file size...

File size mainly affects what you can play in multiplayer and of course, willingness of people to download...

 

[andreariona]

lol can you believe that the rocks and crystal mesh that I use there is below 30kb (outcluding the texture)?

I know how to reduce the poly for models and making some models with a low polycount, so of course I wouldn't use such models with tremendous size. ^^'

P.S.: the original erza mesh when the first time I covert it with milkshape is only like 52kb (before I bone and animate it). so no, I didn't put any models with the size above 1mb or so.

 

[Adiktuz]

of course, textures take most of the file size of HD models... most high poly models which have high file sizes due to the poly count doesn't compare well with low poly models that have HD textures...

 

[andreariona]

why have to fear with the texture size?
blp lab will do the magic to reduce the texture size, that is.

 

[Adiktuz]

I did not say that I'm fearing the size, just stating things based on my observations...

 

[andreariona]

it's true that in fact, what generally makes lowpoly model outstanding is their texture.

high poly models with hundrends of keyframe suppose to be used for a cutscene movie instead of wc3 (except if it purposely has alot of close up shot on cinematic).

 

[Maestros]

Me, Wants, See, M-A-K-A-R-O-V !

 

[Adiktuz]

Me wants MAVIS

 

[andreariona]

Makarov

Mavis

Later. I may made her in the future with a fanmade color though, don't like the official one.

 

[Maestros]

Me, lovez, you!

 

[HOooDy]

Lava would be so much helpful.

 

[Deleted member 212788]

It looks great but I'd suggest using the miscData.txt file (not sure about the exact name, could be wrong) And make the pathway higher up, and narrower so that you can create a feeling that the path may collapse or something.

 

[WerBackIII]

If it is playable, I like it. Though, I have to admit that if this is a point of interest (a boss lair, for example) it needs something to grab the focus.

What are the tiles that you're using?