Naxxramas [3.3]

[Maizon]

Great map! 4/5

 

[hassanbob]

Sorry for the delay in the review but i give you 5/5

 

[Maxwell]

Sorry for the delay in the review but i give you 5/5

Ok mate, no problems. Thank u for review!

 

[O.Elayadi]

that the sound is annoying

Lol you feel the same?

 

[Feed_Me]

Wow Maxwell! It should be said that it is really great altered melee. Wanna check other your's maps : )

 

[Maxwell]

New important update 2.3
"Heroic Difficulty"

Significantly alters the behavior of the AI and adds
such a strategically important things like an ability
to use Scroll of Teleportation on Obelisks of Corruption
to protect them and etc.

Also removed the bugs and problems of patch 2.2.

Hightly recomended to upload.

 

[Loolazo859]

I download it and put it in my Download Folder but it not appear why?? Pls Help me

 

[Maxwell]

I download it and put it in my Download Folder but it not appear why?? Pls Help me

You should put it in: .../Warcraft 3/Maps/...

 

[Walichrage]

Hi, i like your map. Really fun idea with these leader faction. But one thing bother me, when u take death knigth, abomination created from ghouls cost cost: 360gold 70 lumber 6 food (240g 70l 4f- normal + 120g 2 f-ghoul cost) while abomination are created much faster i think creating them from ghouls is too costly especially with food.

 

[adri_232]

I can't launch your map; when i try to launch it, it backs me to the list of maps again =I
What can i do ??

 

[Maxwell]

Hi, i like your map. Really fun idea with these leader faction. But one thing bother me, when u take death knigth, abomination created from ghouls cost cost: 360gold 70 lumber 6 food (240g 70l 4f- normal + 120g 2 f-ghoul cost) while abomination are created much faster i think creating them from ghouls is too costly especially with food.

It's just graphical bug - it cost 4 food. Why it cost the same as common Abomination? Becouse you can immidietly transform your Ghouls into powerful army. Useful in defence, when you can use your ''Lumber Ghouls'' for counter strike.

By the way, thank you very much for such a high rating, you help me to correct the low rating due to the perverse mistakes. I'm very inspired by this.

I can't launch your map; when i try to launch it, it backs me to the list of maps again =I
What can i do ??

I haven't idea what is wrong. On my PC and other mates PC it's going ok. So maybe it is something with your computer/warcraft 3 and etc.

 

[Strange1884]

Awesome map and great descriptions. Keep up the good work!

 

[Maxwell]

Awesome map and great descriptions. Keep up the good work!

Oh thank you so much mate. Thanks to you guys I have a possibility to rise from 2 stars to 4 \(^^)/

 

[pasha]

nice map lad ^^

 

[Loolazo859]

I would put custom heroes and that the attackers can't be undead or the undead is change to forsaken and that the night elf would be the blood elf I only recommended it.4/5

 

[Maxwell]

put custom heroes

Hard to balance.

attackers can't be undead

When Undeads destroy Obelisks they can say: "In name of Sylvana!" and so on.

the night elf would be the blood elf

Ehh... Why?

 

[Inthebag]

Really cool map, tried also many times with full bots and noticed that naxxramas AI doesn't pick the hero at any time of the game, even after it build 2 ziggurats in its base. Maybe you changed the codename of the hero unit and the bot can't choose from it.
Overall really nice map, adding also more musics to loop during the whole match may help improve the experience
Also, consider to change some of the heroes for the undead of the 4 man team, in some kind of forsaken-more allegiance, which doesn't really have lichs or nerubians (though this last one could also be ok, since you can think of some nerubians still not in the control of the lich king, but i guess swapping it with the dark ranger from the tavern should sound like a better idea)

 

[Maxwell]

Thank you a lot for your feedback :)

Really cool map, tried also many times with full bots and noticed that naxxramas AI doesn't pick the hero at any time of the game, even after it build 2 ziggurats in its base. Maybe you changed the codename of the hero unit and the bot can't choose from it.

Updated. Thank you that noticed that Wait for 2.8

Overall really nice map, adding also more musics to loop during the whole match may help improve the experience

When I find something suitable, I will definitely update the music list.

i guess swapping it with the dark ranger from the tavern should sound like a better idea)

I thought I would. Just waiting for more things that would be updated

 

[ozisop12]

wow played your map its great i loved it 5/5

 

[Maxwell]

wow played your map its great i loved it 5/5

Thank you for such a great rating

 

[Loolazo859]

I would change skins of the humans and made them like if they was Scarlet Crusade,and change the nathrezim for other heroe because they follow the Legion

 

[Loolazo859]

There is a bug that happen me recently,I was killing skeleton and skeleton mage died but he keep was there for all the game pls do something,thanks you

 

[Maxwell]

Please explain specifically what is the problem?
In Naxxramas there is a talent that allows skeletons to reborn, maybe you meant it?

And please do not use the double post, it's against the rules of Hiveworkshop.

I would change skins of the humans and made them like if they was Scarlet Crusade

I already said that I don't plan to change the race, since I see any reason to replace the Alliance with the scarlet Cruasade.

change the nathrezim for other heroe because they follow the Legion

The right hand of Sylvanas is Nathrezim. If you mean the forces of Naxxramas, then a lot of Nathrezims also collaborates with Scourge. All are Ok in frames of Lore.

 

[Loolazo859]

It could be that ability that are you saying,something happen and that skeleton bugged,there is a possibility to fix it?

 

[Maxwell]

It could be that ability that are you saying,something happen and that skeleton bugged,there is a possibility to fix it?

I need to convene a team of testers to find out this problem. As soon as the bug is found, I will solve it.

 

[SAR80s]

5/5 Love this map, just out of curiosity what music is playing?

 

[Maxwell]

5/5 Love this map

Thank you for rating mate.Assassin's Creed 2 - Flying Hawk

just out of curiosity what music is playing?

Lindsey Stirling — Assassin's Creed III

 

[PrinceYaser]

Hey, man! Just some reviews:

Firstly about terrain as always:

• The mixing of the tiles is very nice, not great but it's a very suitable mixing of the tiles as it goes through each part of the map. The mixing of tiles of the roads have no problems, that's a very nice point.
• There is some good creativities in the map. There is some very good use of statues, walls, and overall doodads of the map, however it could be used more of creations.
• I think the spaces for constructions of players are a bit small, but that's however think of me.
• Very good use of trees and mixing them! I cannot find any issues in this state.
• I really like those obelisks and vents of sewer! That's some sort of good creativity.
• Terrain is way too smooth, try to make some height variations and some natural balances of terrain. There is already some good tools for making them in WE. Also you could use a misc data for increasing the height if you want.
• Those gates ( you named them stells) around the cliffs are working as some great sort of walls. I mean they avoid the monotony of cliffs and make the cliffs the feeling of some nice decorating doodads even if they are blizz doodads. I think every nice map should use them as they are important imo and you used them. Nice think!
• Well, the fog really fits the map, however you could make it more horrible and dreadful by lowering blue color to 10 or 15, increasing the red color to 100 or 105 and lowering the green color to 80 or 70 to reach a fog combination of more dark red and dreadful that have some green color to fit the map and very few blue, I think fog is just like drawing . However, that's just my thought.
• Doodads variation is very nice, but you could use more variations if you care. More creative constructions and natural buildings that fit the map in a way. There is no need to do this, just for having more doodads variation.
• I think some building doodads are oversized from width view if you have an accurate eye, or maybe my eyes have problems. You can look at building doodads to understand whether I'm right or not. Dunno!

Terrain is overall decent!

Secondly about the map and overall design:

• I think the messages at the starting of the map are really a great idea! Nice job on them!
• I'm not a pro at triggering or coding, so I cannot give you my opinion in this state. I just looked at triggers and I should say they were very nice!
• I like the music of the map. I think it was very nice!
• No other suggestions, I'm mostly a terrainer not a player or triggerer.

Overall I think this is a very nice map! I rate this map 4/5 and +4 rep for the effort. You can also tell me if you're unhappy with my comment and I'll delete it as you wish.

Just believe yourself to create great maps! (Well, that's my slogan in each review of me )

 

[Maxwell]

Hey, didn't know that you writes reviews

The mixing of the tiles is very nice, not great but it's a very suitable mixing of the tiles as it goes through each part of the map. The mixing of tiles of the roads have no problems, that's a very nice point.

Thank you a lot! I think that I'll rework the roads a little soon - I don't like white borderiards very much.

There is some good creativities in the map. There is some very good use of statues, walls, and overall doodads of the map, however it could be used more of creations.

This is not a signs of creativities But yeah, thank you.
"It could be used more of creations" - please let me know what you mean - more of "man-made" decorations?

I think the spaces for constructions of players are a bit small, but that's however think of me.

This is a small penalty because of the number of Naxxramas enemies that would not allow them to overbuild.

Very good use of trees and mixing them! I cannot find any issues in this state.

I really like it too. As for me really interesting combination of trees, I dunno why I can see it sо rarely.

I really like those obelisks and vents of sewer! That's some sort of good creativity.

Do you really like vents of sewer? After patch 2.2 terrain was reworked, and a lot of space was freed up. For a long time I couldn't think of anything to fill it beautifully, and I didn't think of anything better than these pipes. But I'm really not pleased with the way it looks.

Terrain is way too smooth, try to make some height variations and some natural balances of terrain. There is already some good tools for making them in WE. Also you could use a misc data for increasing the height if you want.

I will try to fix it in 2.9.
P.S.: "Also you could use a misc data for increasing the height if you want." - I'm not sure that I understand what about you are talking, sorry.

Those gates ( you named them stells) around the cliffs are working as some great sort of walls. I mean they avoid the monotony of cliffs and make the cliffs the feeling of some nice decorating doodads even if they are blizz doodads. I think every nice map should use them as they are important imo and you used them. Nice think!

I like it also! I'm happy that you saw this map after "GREAT COSMETIC UPDATE" patch 2.2, since most of the pluses you noticed were applied in this patch. Thank you!

Well, the fog really fits the map, however you could make it more horrible and dreadful by lowering blue color to 10 or 15, increasing the red color to 100 or 105 and lowering the green color to 80 or 70 to reach a fog combination of more dark red and dreadful that have some green color to fit the map and very few blue, I think fog is just like drawing . However, that's just my thought.

I know that you are great artist so done without doubts!

Doodads variation is very nice, but you could use more variations if you care. More creative constructions and natural buildings that fit the map in a way. There is no need to do this, just for having more doodads variation.

I'm working on it all the time. With every pach I'm trying to add some interesting doodads, like a destroyed meatwagons and so on.

I think some building doodads are oversized from width view if you have an accurate eye, or maybe my eyes have problems. You can look at building doodads to understand whether I'm right or not. Dunno!

If you noticed, then it is. I will try to discover these problems, but I can't promise anything :D

I think the messages at the starting of the map are really a great idea! Nice job on them!

Such messages is somethink like "recognizable sign" of my maps, thank you! Maybe later I will ask @Elf_Lord to voice act for this map too, as for Sands of Time. But I'm not sure.

I'm not a pro at triggering or coding, so I cannot give you my opinion in this state. I just looked at triggers and I should say they were very nice!

Hah, ok, thanks :3

I like the music of the map. I think it was very nice!

Finally! I've changed the music theme already 3 times, and it seems everyone is happy now.

Overall I think this is a very nice map! I rate this map 4/5. You can also tell me if you're unhappy with my comment and I'll delete it as you wish.

Thank you a lot @PrinceYaser! It's really useful review. Of course you must leave this coment even if you will give 1/5 - everyone have own opinion! Thank you again, I will try to fix this issues on comming 2.9 patch!

 

[PrinceYaser]

please let me know what you mean - more of "man-made" decorations?

Mostly not man-made but natural creations. Less man-made and more natural. That's just my thought. You don't need to apply my suggestion if you see it's not suitable.

P.S.: "Also you could use a misc data for increasing the height if you want." - I'm not sure that I understand what about you are talking, sorry.

Misc data is a file for increasing terrain height more than blizzard limit. It can be found in tutorials of Terrain Board.

I know that you are great artist so done without doubts!

You are exaggerating, man! I'm not a great artist. That's just a color rage I learned from reviewers of my icons.

I'm working on it all the time. With every pach I'm trying to add some interesting doodads, like a destroyed meatwagons and so on.

Yeah, interesting doodad creations could be a great help!

Thank you a lot @PrinceYaser! It's really useful review. Of course you must leave this coment even if you will give 1/5 - everyone have own opinion! Thank you again, I will try to fix this issues on comming 2.9 patch!

You're welcome! Keep it up!

 

[Maxwell]

Misc data is a file for increasing terrain height more than blizzard limit. It can be found in tutorials of Terrain Board.

It's really useful information! Thanks a lot!
I've always wondered how it's works.

 

[PrinceYaser]

It's really useful information! Thanks a lot!
I've always wondered how it's works.

You're welcome!

Oh, I forgot to give you rep. I always gave rep in my reviews. Now take it!

 

[Maxwell]

Now take it!

But how? You should have 24 Hours cooldown, isn't it?
I still have 8 hours left to respect you for review :3

 

[PrinceYaser]

But how? You should have 24 Hours cooldown, isn't it?
I still have 8 hours left to respect you for review :3

The last rep I gave you was yesterday at 4:29. This rep was today at 4:43, so 24 hours is almost done!

Btw, don't need to give me rep.

 

[Maxwell]

The last rep I gave you was yesterday at 4:29. This rep was today at 4:43, so 24 hours is almost done!

Timing

Btw, don't need to give me rep.

Reviews is really rare thing in our time. I'm grateful!

 

[PrinceYaser]

Reviews is really rare thing in our time. I'm grateful!

As you wish.

 

[Joinma]

Finally, I got a chance to play!
I really enjoyed your map. There are many things I want to share.

1. I accidentally got 2 liches. I chose death knight first then I chose lich, However, I got 2 liches. It was a game that I played as Naxxramas versus 4 insane A.I.s.
2. The game became hero nuking festival fairly quickly. If you beat enemies' heroes, the rest could be easily picked off.
3. Naxxramas suffered from lacking of gold greatly. If it had been a player versus players game, I could not see a chance that Naxxramas would get an expansion gold mine. Naxxramas should have gotten another gold mine in his base
4. Skeletons from plague were decaying whole time. Some of them could be healed through status's healing ability. Decaying 100 units can cause so much lag for no real profit since it almost entirely depended on heroes. There should have been another type of skeletons and they should have been in different groups of players to reduce the lag.
5. The fact that Naxxramas's necropolis was invulnerable might be because, in testing stage, someone rushed and destroyed necropolis causing Naxxramas instantly lost. Naxxramas's center necropolis should have been unique. It's health should have been increased to at least 4000 which is not high if it is hit by siege units. It's damage should have been benefit from obelisk upgrade and it should have had at least 50 damage in totally which has at least average attack speed and chaos damage.

This is definitely a good melee map. It was just too much nuking festival at the moment. Since this is better than average because of its uniqueness and there were still rooms for improvement which were so obvious, it was reasonable to give this map 4/5.

Unique map is really nice and I like it a lot. Thanks for the map. Cheers~

 

[raglock]

its just great
the music, the theme, i love playing this w my friends, its so much fun.
thank you for creating this.....great job

 

[Maxwell]

@Joinma and @raglock thank you guys a lot for feedback and nice words! I don't check comments for a long time, sorry ^^

 

[CampScouter]

Epic

 

[Daffa]

Enjoyed this map

Also, glad that auto mass order is here. Remember those times I hate to micromanage against so many AI forces due to skeleton getting spawned left and right

 

[Maxwell]

Enjoyed this map

Also, glad that auto mass order is here. Remember those times I hate to micromanage against so many AI forces due to skeleton getting spawned left and right

Do my best for your comfort buddy

 

[hasbiasdq]

Am I the only who was surprised by the Assassin Creed's Background music? It's a little bit unique to play Warcraft 3 with Assassin's Creed music

 

[WarsongWarchief]

l honestly like this map, but an ideea to add custom races to the other attackers would be somethin i guess, for a future update , other then that, amazing , gj.

 

[SNIper of DARKness]

The Crypt lord Leader bonus does not apply to Crypt Fiends burrow, they can't move while burrowed.
"
LEADER BONUS:
Improves the Crypt Lord, allowing him to burrow into the ground. In addition, allow all burrowed units to slowly move under ground, "

DG Is also quite underpowered if he doesn't eliminate players early on, making it either win early game or lose. There should be more buffs available for late game.