My new Orpg terrain

[Dr. House]

hey im working on a new Orpg and here are the first screenshots of a city i made its called Oakvale

 

[Wolle]

It's kinda hard judging the terrain with those angles, try and make some screen shots from the game camera. Only thing i can see right now is that you overkill on those flowers in the first two pics.

 

[bounty hunter2]

It seems interesting but yea game camera shoots pls.

 

[Alias]

It's decent. A bit flat.

 

[Mor)L(unE]

To be honest, its crap. U used lordearon summer tileset, that a nono. switch it to village tileset. Second, u used lordearon trees, thats a nono too.

Third the place looks cramped, and squarish. give it angles, rotations. do not make everything square or rectangulair. is a displeasing site.

Fourth: don't drop fences everywere, they look retarded in those masses. Use something different like bushes, or nothing

 

[Linaze]

Seems very lordaeron summer-ish to be honest, you should use the Village tileset instead, neither do I think that your terrain is that good either and there is much room for improvement, work on your tile and doodad variation to easiest get the best result. Remember, training gives skills.

 

[Bob27]

You need a lot more tile variation, and some height variation as well. And as people have said this would be better in the village tileset rather then the lordaeron summer tileset. Also I agree there are too many flowers in the first couple of screenshots.

 

[bounty hunter2]

But I find it looking like some fairy tale village, somhow nice, the flatnes fits it in a strange way by my opinion.

 

[Craka_J]

Tilesets you use are not the problem with this terrain. It's the way it was used. If I must prove this myself by making a Lordaeron Summer terrain, I will. Besides, this terrain looks like it was done with the Village tileset. What makes this terrain look generally poor is main the lack of tile variation and poor tile placement. It looks very plain and doesn't really mix well where it should. To help variate the terrain more, lets talk about the first terrain shot uploaded of the Grassy Dirt path. What you should do is use a lot of dirt tile variations in there instead of grassy ones. Rough Dirt and Dirt are the two tiles that make roads look like used roads and stand out best as roads. If you want examples, I would recommend looking at melee maps made by Blizzard Entertainment such as "Booty Bay." Use those melee maps as your references. Learn from them. They can be very handy if you're a visual learner, rather than an auditorial one.

Another thing that makes this terrain poor is the lack of hill variation (Otherwise known or refered to as 'Height Variation') and its overall flatness. When making hills in terrains such as this, do not make the hills tall, but make them large in size (Use the biggest circle to place hills with) and when you're done placing a few or more of this hills in various areas of the map's terrain, be sure to make use of the 'Smooth' tool which is where the 'Raise' tool is in the Terrain Palette. Smoothing hills can be very, very helpful and useful. How? Well, one thing you must always keep in mind to never do when terraining hills or even mountains is to make sure they aren't pointy. Hills should never be pointy, no matter where the terrain is located. Mountains and cliffs are the only ones where that might be somewhat excusable, but still not recommended. When smoothing hills, be sure to hold down the Left-Click on your mouse rather than tapping it over and over. Tapping it seems to affect the hill more critically and I would suggest tapping Left-Click only if the hills is very tall; but even then, holding it down is still easier.

The doodad placement isn't so bad, actually, but it does look cluttered in a lot of these terrains. For example, the fountain. There are way too many flowers ON it. I would recommend placing then around the rim of the outer part of the fountain rather than in it where the water falls.

~Craka_J

 

[Dr. House]

ty vey much all but this isnt done with village tileset its done with sunkenruins one the reason is because i wana use many different tilesets for my map (also im real bad in mixing tilesets but all this is no excuse to not give it a try so the results shall come soon)

 

[Dr. House]

im sorry for the double post but here is the result (plz dont be to hard )

 

[Craka_J]

It's better, but you are making a rough dirt trail through the road. I'll make an example terrain for you in just minute.

[EDIT]
Added two example terrain shots. It's kind of messy since I rushed it, but it's still a good example to reference to.

~Craka_J

 

[Gilles]

Ewww, Lordaeron Grass! Eww! Oh hey look, village grass! Nice choice.

 

[Craka_J]

IT'S VILLAGE! Yes Gilles, that is indeed Village Grass. I'm glad you pointed that out. How smart you are.

~Craka_J

 

[Dr. House]

ok ty for that example gona try it out soon

 

[leet.firefox]

Oakvale? Is this a fable orpg? That game had some pretty awesome environments. Hope this comes out just as good!

 

[Dr. House]

ty mate well i do have som ideas frome fable its my number one xbox game but dont think this shall be fable plz this game shall be based on 2 games Fable And WoW why? thay are my favorite games and got good engines i shall post new screens soon im a bit bissy on making the terrain infront of oakvale

 

[Nudl9]

Oakvale

Creative mind!

 

[Dr. House]

sorry to disapoint you but its frome Fable so maybe im not that creative here are my new screens enyway

 

[Dr. House]

sorry for the double post but if enyone has a sugestion for twinblades camp plz say it because im not realy happy how it looks

 

[Celaquil]

That shore line is hurting my eyes! o.o Use the smooth tool to smoothen it out so that the sea dont look all that boxy Appart from that.. More imports! Thats what you need. And, more tile variation, you never get enough of that! :O

 

[Dr. House]

im kinda having problems with tile variation because i gona use many for areas like a snow area and all and yes i forgott to use the smooth tool