[Crash] my map get crash :C

[ArOn]

my map get crash and i don't know why.
I've been working on for a long time with it
but now I have this big problem :C

I have many triggers, units and abilities.
i don't know what the problem

 

[Crystalknoct]

do you create backups at all? also is there anything you added recently since it started crashing?

 

[Daffa]

Map Crash Issues

There are several choices that one of these cause the Crash If its ingame :
-Trigger Leaks
-Too Many Units

 

[ArOn]

I started to edit my map again recently
He had long ago ceased to edit
but formerly also crash

so i no know the problem

 

[Crystalknoct]

whos he why dont you just ask him what he did with the map? Thats why I try to only let myself edit my maps and not let people error it up

 

[ArOn]

I only edit my map :S
but did not know much time before....
but now I can not find the problem of crash

 

[Crystalknoct]

would you mind posting the map or sending see if anyone can find the problem?

 

[Daffa]

Where the map Crash? At World Editor or In-Game?

 

[ArOn]

Where the map Crash? At World Editor or In-Game?

When I'm playing
I do not understand his reason

would you mind posting the map or sending see if anyone can find the problem?

know about jass? and triggers?

 

[Crystalknoct]

When I'm playing
I do not understand his reason



know about jass? and triggers?

Barly anything about jass I almost knw everything about triggers

 

[ArOn]

My map contains some triggers in jass...

 

[Crystalknoct]

My map contains some triggers in jass...

cant help you there sorry I am going to start learning jass as soon as I got gui down tho hoping to get into coding classes good luck hope someone else can help you maybe dr super good he seems to know quite a bit about jass

 

[ArOn]

cant help you there sorry I am going to start learning jass as soon as I got gui down tho hoping to get into coding classes

and now I can do... :C

 

[deathismyfriend]

if u post the map some of us might be able to help

 

[ArOn]

and if I put only the import of triggers

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Try to disable all triggers.
If the map still crashes, the map file is probably corrupt or one of the imports is damaged.

If it works, re-enable all of the triggers one by one and find the one that is crashing your game.
When you found the culprit, post it here so we can fix it.

 

[Daffa]

Yes, Triggers are probably the main issue, Disable all Triggers, like Belchen said, then see if the map works.

 

[best_player_88]

My usuall fail in game is making spellbook to call into itself inside of one of his spells by mistake, search your spellbooks if they don't point to another spellbook since that cause 100% crush.

 

[ArOn]

Try to disable all triggers.
If the map still crashes, the map file is probably corrupt or one of the imports is damaged.

If it works, re-enable all of the triggers one by one and find the one that is crashing your game.
When you found the culprit, post it here so we can fix it.

i have like 100-200 triggers or more .__.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

i have like 100-200 triggers or more .__.

And where exactly is the problem?
Narrow it down by deactivating multiple triggers at once (like 25% of them) and see if the problem persists. Then go deeper and deactivate 5 of those that are in the "culprit group", etc.

 

[Daffa]

Okay, is there any trigger firing every few seconds, since mostly these kinds of triggers can leak so bad en crash.

And, did you find any lag before Crash, or it Crash suddenly?

 

[meowie]

Map crash problem have to dealt with experience in WE.
You seem to hesitate to release a copy of your map to find out the real cause of the problem from your map which can be really difficult to help since you wasn't able to specific information of the crash.

There are few reason it may cause.since 4.9c vex may cause bug and even crash
Model Corruption relate with triggers or cinematic uses texture don't exist anymore.
Map corruption
Missing path on the terrain when it couldn't find location using trigger spells out of the map. Crash
Trigger crash gets troublesome. You need to know what changes u done each version and test.
Check if the crash happens periodically and rectify the trigger had u recent change. either be leak or bad lined with protection optimize script
Or you are using Deprotected map that doesn't belong to yours

 

[ArOn]

map crash with WE test map
no protect the map

map throws error when I'm playing out of nowhere
Maybe you could check in the importation of triggers?

 

[T. D. W.]

map crash with WE test map
no protect the map

map throws error when I'm playing out of nowhere
Maybe you could check in the importation of triggers?

Firstly could you post your map, if not tell us [posting triggers won't help
secondly, at what instance EXACTLY it crashes ?

 

[ArOn]

I would say when the players struggling and use various skills (my map have Artificial Inteligence).

my skills are made with triggers.
but i don't know that crash :S

and because not only imports of triggers?
i think the problem is in the triggers...

 

[T. D. W.]

weird........
I didn't understand anything you said

 

[ArOn]

when i use this skill cause lagg

Light Protect

• Light Protect
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Light Protect
  • Actions
    • Set LightProtect_Caster = (Triggering unit)
    • Set LightProtect_objetives = (Facing of LightProtect_Caster)
    • For each (Integer A) from 1 to 12, do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Set LightProtect_objetives = (LightProtect_objetives + 50.00)
        • Set LightProtect_Position = (Position of LightProtect_Caster)
        • Unit - Create 1 Dummy for (Owner of LightProtect_Caster) at LightProtect_Position facing LightProtect_objetives degrees
        • Unit - Set level of Light Protect (Dummy) for (Last created unit) to (Level of Light Protect for LightProtect_Caster)
        • Unit - Order (Last created unit) to Orc Tauren Chieftain - Shockwave (LightProtect_Position offset by 250.00 towards LightProtect_objetives degrees)
        • Unit - Add a 0.30 second Generic expiration timer to (Last created unit)
        • Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_LightProtect_Position)
    • Set LightProtect_Caster = No unit

maybe there is a problem with this?

 

[Daffa]

Why do you loop the spell? Maybe it's cause of the loop which cause lag. Most loop spells, also, I think you don't have to set the triggering unit into variable? Or it has to avoid leaks?

Also, is facing angle leaks, I forgot things that leaks.

 

[deathismyfriend]

Does it lag only the first time u cast it ? If it does it is most likely do to not preloading. If it lags everytime it might be the loop. Take out integer A and use ur own variable. Integer A is very buggy and is slower than using ur own variable

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Why do you guys keep searching for leaks always?
His map CRASHES, its not about leaks.

I suppose he uses a move trigger out of map bounds or a trigger that repeats itself infinitely. Most common reason for crashes with unexperienced mappers.

 

[ArOn]

Does it lag only the first time u cast it ? If it does it is most likely do to not preloading. If it lags everytime it might be the loop. Take out integer A and use ur own variable. Integer A is very buggy and is slower than using ur own variable

this lagg is generated each time you use that skill

 

[T. D. W.]

I am confused, do your map crach or does it lag what is the main problem

 

[ArOn]

I am confused, do your map crach or does it lag what is the main problem

crash bro :S
I only mention the trigger because cause lagg
and maybe that has something to do...

 

[Radicool]

Look I just have to say ArOn; you need to improve on your grammar and spelling. Its very important...

 

[Daffa]

Why do you guys keep searching for leaks always?
His map CRASHES, its not about leaks.

I suppose he uses a move trigger out of map bounds or a trigger that repeats itself infinitely. Most common reason for crashes with unexperienced mappers.

Leaks can cause crash, yes I agree that infinite loop also can do that too.


ArOn, did you have any trigger that loops (repeatedly used, other than Skills, I.E every 0.05 seconds or whatever)?

 

[ArOn]

Artifical Ingeligence have Loops for work good
like cast spells, attack enemy hero and others...

 

[EmoBrother]

Increases the periodic time slightly, maybe it will reduce the lag

Triggers

[Trigger=Periodic time]Increases it
Events
Time - Every 0.05 ( change it to Time - Every 0.2 )[/trigger]

 

[ArOn]

Increases the periodic time slightly, maybe it will reduce the lag

Triggers

[Trigger=Periodic time]Increases it
Events
Time - Every 0.05 ( change it to Time - Every 0.2 )[/trigger]

my loops use "every 5 seconds" and others "every 1/2 seconds"
only in Artificial Ingeligence Triggers.

spells loops is 0.5 and 0.10

 

[Dr Super Good]

1. make backup of map, you need this to fix the map later.
2. delete all triggers in map. If the map still crashes when testing then it clearly is not trigger related and must be a bad object editor value.
3. if 2 still crashes, then start deleting object editor data until the crash stops. Find the entry that causes the crash and work on fixing it.
4. if 2 did not crash, then it is a trigger. Look for triggers that run when the crash happens and work on fixing them. Running some trigger code during initialization (eg initializing a global to a quest) will cause the map to crash while loading.
5. after finding the problem and fixing it, go back to your backed up version of the map and apply it there. This will mean no progress is lost.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

1. make backup of map, you need this to fix the map later.
2. delete all triggers in map. If the map still crashes when testing then it clearly is not trigger related and must be a bad object editor value.
3. if 2 still crashes, then start deleting object editor data until the crash stops. Find the entry that causes the crash and work on fixing it.
4. if 2 did not crash, then it is a trigger. Look for triggers that run when the crash happens and work on fixing them. Running some trigger code during initialization (eg initializing a global to a quest) will cause the map to crash while loading.
5. after finding the problem and fixing it, go back to your backed up version of the map and apply it there. This will mean no progress is lost.

Already told him. He seems to be too lazy to do that.

 

[ArOn]

already remove all objects in the editor and not get crash (triggers also)

Already told him. He seems to be too lazy to do that.

I have not all day :/
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I have one more question
if I have triggers jass, i need to save the map with jassnewgenpack or normal WE?

 

[pred1980]

You use JNPG? If yes, there's a backup folder, look inside

 

[Dr Super Good]

already remove all objects in the editor and not get crash

If you removed all object editor data (triggers were not touched and were left in) and the crash went away then clearly it is a problem with one or more object editor entries having bad values.

It is very easy to make bad values unintentionally in the object editor. The most recent example I found was incorrect usage of dependency equivalences. This manifested itself as a crash when a unit was selected. It took me ages to find that the crash was caused by one of the distant (not even direct) upgrades of one of the buildings the unit could build.

Some crashes will happen in game, others can happen during map initialization.

I have not all day :/

Neither do we as it is your map, not ours. If you tested more regularly and made backups this problem could have been avoided without having to perform time intensive debugging.

 

[ArOn]

I already save it with jassnewgenpack5
also I already play for an hour and my map not get error
I'm not sure if it was solved with that save jassnewgenpack5

I will continue testing tomorrow...
and sorry for my bad english :C

EDIT: still crash T_T
for: Dr Super Good => if i send you my map unprotected, you can check where is the problem?
I spent hours looking for the explanation of the problem and can not find it :C

 

[T. D. W.]

I already save it with jassnewgenpack5
also I already play for an hour and my map not get error
I'm not sure if it was solved with that save jassnewgenpack5

I will continue testing tomorrow...
and sorry for my bad english :C

EDIT: still crash T_T
for: Dr Super Good => if i send you my map unprotected, you can check where is the problem?
I spent hours looking for the explanation of the problem and can not find it :C

If you say you do not have all time, I do
You can post your map unprotected and i will try to solve it
Btw don't worry if you think i'm gonna make your map mine, i have already 3 maps i'm working on no need for another one

 

[Zwiebelchen]

I have not all day :/

Seriously, why are you asking for help if you are not willing to move a finger to fix the problem?
All I can say is: if you can't afford the time to debug your map yourself, don't even make one.

Anyways, I'm out of this thread. I'm just wasting my time here if TO is too lazy to do the dirty work and expect others to do it for him.

 

[ArOn]

Seriously, why are you asking for help if you are not willing to move a finger to fix the problem?
All I can say is: if you can't afford the time to debug your map yourself, don't even make one.

Anyways, I'm out of this thread. I'm just wasting my time here if TO is too lazy to do the dirty work and expect others to do it for him.

I spent hours looking for the problem and i can't to solve anything

 

[T. D. W.]

We told you to post your map unprotected

 

[ArOn]

We told you to post your map unprotected

if i make my map public, any in internet can download.

 

[T. D. W.]

Like you want