Music Contest #3 - Theme Selection

[Disasterpiece512]

Ok, I think it's about time we had another music contest, so Wherewolf and I decided to create a new thread to select the theme, seeing as the old one died. So, as I am going to host this contest, I invite potential participants to post their ideas for themes here and I shall count them. The one with the most votes, wins.

For the sake of... time. This is going to have a pretty strict timetable, to prevent unwanted delays, as was the case last time. So, on 02-19-2011, 7:21PM, Global Meridian Time, the voting shall stop. I shall count all the votes up to that time, and the theme with the most votes wins.

Sorry if I seem to be stuck-up and too official, but I just want to make sure we get somewhere.

So, currently we have the two predominant themes from the previous thread:

Dystopia - a world ruled by chaos caused by a corrupt leader. Basically, a Utopia gone wrong.
and
Schizophrenia - just what it sounds like. Create a schizophrenic piece of music.

So, propose your themes and vote for previously proposed themes. I'd like you guys to keep it broad, try to choose a theme that doesn't limit creativity, as was the case in the last two contests. Choose something that would let the participants show their creativity.

 

[CoBrA b]

I'm all for dystopia.

Can't wait for this to start!

 

[JetFangInferno]

I vote for Schizophrenia.

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Come on, people. I want more activity around here.

 

[TriggerHappy]

Schizophrenia!

 

[JetFangInferno]

Woot woot schizophrenia! Can't wait

 

[Skycraft]

Woot woot schizophrenia! Can't wait

Schizophrenia!

this.

 

[Lich Prince]

Definitely dystopia.

 

[Disasterpiece512]

3 for dystopia, 4 for schizo so far. You guys know you can propose your own ideas, right?

 

[Devine]

Dystopia as it'd be more coherent.

 

[wolfman]

I think Dystopia sounds pretty cool

 

[Disasterpiece512]

5 Dystopia - 4 Schizo.

4 days remaining.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

I have to say I like schizophrenia better

 

[JetFangInferno]

5 Dystopia - 5 Schizo.

3 days remaining. It's going to be a close one!

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Meh, the themes are similar imo. Whichever one wins, I think people will be satisfied.

 

[deepstrasz]

Dystopia adds some more free time to me .

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

? What difference time-wise do the themes hold?

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Ehm... none? They're both pretty challenging themes to encompass correctly.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Ehm... none? They're both pretty challenging themes to encompass correctly.

Was responding to this

Dystopia adds some more free time to me .

 

[JetFangInferno]

Personally, I find Dystopia more abstract and much more difficult to create a sound for. The simplest approach is create a Utopian sound, then slowly distort it throughout to reveal its Dystopian nature.

Schizophrenia, in my opinion, has easier sounds to produce because you can work with its symptoms and go from there.

Either way, these two themes are abstract but leave a lot of room for creativity. It's just difficult drawing the borderline for "horror" music, which is done rather easily.

 

[deepstrasz]

I have got a fragment of music (a loop) that will be made to represent the dystopian theme therefore I won't be forced to build up from scraps.

I don't find horrendous sounds and harmony easy to invent.

 

[JetFangInferno]

You still have to follow the rules and make sure your piece is mostly original (I forgot if it was 75%).

 

[deepstrasz]

I haven't said it wasn't original. The piece is mine, it's just older.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

You know the idea of a contest is to make a new piece specifically for it, and not to recycle old work. Using loops and such is fine, but if you're talking about just adding a little to an old piece that's not exactly in the spirit of competition

 

[Disasterpiece512]

What Wherewolf said. You're supposed to start writing the song after the contest begins, not before.

 

[deepstrasz]

Ok . I'll do that with hopes of inspiration.

 

[Disasterpiece512]

6 - 5 for dystopia. 24 hours remaining.

 

[JetFangInferno]

You know the idea of a contest is to make a new piece specifically for it, and not to recycle old work. Using loops and such is fine, but if you're talking about just adding a little to an old piece that's not exactly in the spirit of competition

I actually kind of have to disagree with this because I believe if he can do substantial editing as to give new life to his former piece, then it's viable. There are a lot of great remixes out there that completely redefine the meaning of a song so it just seems he's remixing another piece of his.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

I actually kind of have to disagree with this because I believe if he can do substantial editing as to give new life to his former piece, then it's viable. There are a lot of great remixes out there that completely redefine the meaning of a song so it just seems he's remixing another piece of his.

Well the point is that it's like other contests in that you create the work directly for the contest. I guess there's quite a difference between using a loop and reworking an old piece, but the general idea is that you're not riding out on your old writing. If he changed it enough then yeah, it's basically not the same piece - but also note that it's an original composition challenge (at least that's what my intentions where when hosting the first contest - of course watchman is hosting this one so it's his say, but at least that's what I was envisioning in past contests), perhaps that should be a bit more defined in the rules, basically the writing should be originally intended for the contest.

Though that could be a cool idea for future/seperate contests, taking a piece and completely reworking it into your own style.

 

[deepstrasz]

Seems like we all are heading on some clashing roads. The loop I mentioned was made by me of course (not taken from an already made song). As for always creating something for different topics is what actually takes the laziness out of me. So let us begin and cherish some good moments.

 

[JetFangInferno]

Just differing opinions, not necessarily on a combative level. Wherewolf's point is that you should start the contest with a clean slate and work from scratch, instead of using existing material.

 

[deepstrasz]

Why do you people have to say the same thing over and over again and then urge me to reply that I understand yet again ?

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Because you always go like "Bla bla bla, *contradictory statement*, bla bla bla, *affirmative statement*, bla bla, have fun". Hard to tell if you understood XD.

Anyway, As I said before, all the material you use whould be written AFTER the start of the contest.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Well the thing is, things like royalty free drum loops should be fine to use in it
They are as much of a resource as the instruments you used to write it.

So where do you draw the line between using that sort of thing, and just building on an older piece?

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Samples are fine because you need them to be according to your idea. Once you have an idea you need to find the right sample. If you build on an older piece, you work on it more than the others have worked on their pieces (first time you made it, and now when you remake it) and thus it would be more perfected, thus more unfair. 3 hours remaining, themes are tied. This is going to be strange.

 

[deepstrasz]

Either we vote again and choose half the time or we just toss a coin. Dudes, I don't use loops as already made. What I called loop was a piece of music I made that can be played forever using the program I use (get it now ?). And I specifically said that I will make a new piece, you have my word (what ever would that mean to you).

 

[Disasterpiece512]

I could use my vote (I didn't vote) as a tiebreaker, but that would be subjective. I think I'll toss a coin.

 

[deepstrasz]

Not really fair considering you could choose for your liking. There should be a way though.

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Well, I have the right to vote as much as anyone else so choosing to my likeness would be fair, as everybody else voted what would suit them.

Meh, coin toss. Schizophrenia wins.

 

[deepstrasz]

That's a bad omen for me .

 

[Disasterpiece512]

It's the luck of the draw.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Not really fair considering you could choose for your liking. There should be a way though.

You do realize the host normally chooses the theme correct?
Most contests don't seem to have this sort of problem, but try to host something art related with a specific theme and suddenly everyone's up at arms about their opinion not being expressed.

 

[Axegrinder90]

Crazy? I can do crazy. I am crazy. as a matter of fact, I ALREADY GOT SOMETHING CRAZY O_O

Um....where exactly do I put my crazy music?

 

[deepstrasz]

It's all settled then. Are we ready to put the show on the run ?

 

[Disasterpiece512]

I'll submit the contest in about 30 minutes.

 

[Axegrinder90]

Who or where do we submit at/to?

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Wait, I have to submit the contest and it has to be approved. It hasn't started yet. Don't start writing your song yet.

 

[Axegrinder90]

LOL I already have plenty of ideas! but I can wait. haha

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Ideas are fine, just don't start working yet.

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Awful, awful double post.

Contest thread here: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...c-contest-3-schizophrenia-190033/#post1849381

This thread no longer serves any purpose. Someone close it.