Modeling Mini-Contest #5

[HappyCockroach]

Hi everyone. Modeling Contest #29 is coming to an end, and since the theme was heavy to the community in general, it could be a good time to host another Modeling Mini-Contest, if we have interested people.

The idea is hosting a theme of something small or easy to model, and quick, so it is lighter and more dynamic.

The theme I propose is the following:

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Familiar

Contestants are meant to model a pet familiar - which is a subordinated secondary companion, to a hero existing in the MPQ. Example: a flying sprite to the Keeper of the Grove, a crow to the Death Knight, and so on. (The familiar is an independent model, not an attachment, or anything like that)

Examples

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I didn't put up the structure of a thousand themes + poll, because a direct theme proposal is a valid method of submitting contests to debate as well, and I couldn't think of many modeling mini-contest themes. And if it isn't adequate, this is the place to debate that, since it is still up to approval (Of course, you can put up your own propositions here and as discussion goes on I put it here too).

Thoughts?

 

[PROXY]

Like it. Would be totally up for it.

 

[Edge45]

So we would like make something like critters or creeps for heroes, seems interesting.

 

[Hantoo]

Familar sounds great, i love it

 

[HappyCockroach]

So we would like make something like critters or creeps for heroes, seems interesting.

Not exactly, because critters are neutral and don't attack. Familiars may or may not attack, depending on your entry concept, and are player controllable, since they're minions to heroes themselves.

 

[Mike]

Needs to exctarct hero model and add an animal to him (which will follow hero etc like in squad) or we can make this animal in a separate (which can be summon)?

 

[Kyrbi0]

Hi everyone. Modeling Contest #29 is coming to an end, and since the theme was heavy to the community in general, it could be a good time to host another Modeling Mini-Contest, if we have interested people.

*sniff* But what about the Joint, artist-starved Hero Contest? :<

The idea is hosting a theme of something small or easy to model, and quick, so it is lighter and more dynamic.

The theme I propose is the following:

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Familiar

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Contestants are meant to model a pet familiar - which is a subordinated secondary companion, to a hero existing in the MPQ. Example: a flying sprite to the Keeper of the Grove, a crow to the Death Knight, and so on - as Misha is Rexxar's companion on its storyline. (The familiar is an independent model, not an attachment, or anything like that)

Examples

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MAGIC THE GATHERING! Palace Familiar was a hecka-sick card with the Exploit mechanic. Loved it.

Also, that's a great suggestion. 'Familiar' is nice and small, nice & simple.

I didn't put up the structure of a thousand themes + poll, because a direct theme proposal is a valid method of submitting contests to debate as well, and I couldn't think of many modeling mini-contest themes. And if it isn't adequate, this is the place to debate that, since it is still up to approval (Of course, you can put up your own propositions here and as discussion goes on I put it here too).

Thoughts?

Putting up a "proposition" rather than a bunch of polls? Novel idea! : P
Fine idea. Though we've talked about Mini-Modeling Contests in the past & IIRC there were several good ideas tossed around, so I'm surprised you couldn't think of enough for a Poll... No matter.

If I were to suggest alternatives, I might consider "(Legendary) Weapon", "Pygmy" (i.e. tiny-versions of units, or just tiny characters (Gnomes, Goblins, etc), or an actual race of Pygmy in Warcraft), "Critter", "SFX", "RPG (Food) Item", "Elemental-ling" (I figure an elemental is just a blob with an animated texture; a small enough "elemental summon" could be simple enough for a mini-modeling contest but interesting enough (compare Water Elemental to Lava Spawn) to garner some interest)... Stuff like that. And I didn't even check old topics. : )

But still, I think Familiar is a great idea.

 

[The_Silent]

I love mini-modeling contests, since there actually is a chance I will finish In time.

 

[Edge45]

Oh, I have another question, well, 4 race has 4 heroes, plus those from Taverns.
Since the theme says familiars for existing heroes in mpqs, does that mean custom hero models does not count, and also units and demi-heroes?

 

[HappyCockroach]

Needs to exctarct hero model and add an animal to him (which will follow hero etc like in squad) or we can make this animal in a separate (which can be summon)?

As I said, it's a separate unit, as a summon. Good examples: Lava Spawn to Firelord, Carrion Beetle to Crypt Lord. No squad intended here xD

Also, that's a great suggestion. 'Familiar' is nice and small, nice & simple.


Putting up a "proposition" rather than a bunch of polls? Novel idea! : P
Fine idea. Though we've talked about Mini-Modeling Contests in the past & IIRC there were several good ideas tossed around, so I'm surprised you couldn't think of enough for a Poll... No matter.[/size]

I think doing polls have turned into a necessary bureaucracy to contests more than anything. To a Mini-Contest as this, it seems too much. I could think of other ideas too if I gave it more time, but I thought there would be nothing wrong with for once proposing a contest along with its theme, as long as the community receives it well.

Oh, I have another question, well, 4 race has 4 heroes, plus those from Taverns.
Since the theme says familiars for existing heroes in mpqs, does that mean custom hero models does not count, and also units and demi-heroes?

Yes, yes, those are 24 alternatives only for contestants. There are the campaign heroes as well, as Akama, Sylvanas Windrunner, Archimonde, Malfurion, Jaina, etc. In the end might end up as 30 options or so. I think it's an ok limit, since two contestants can do different familiars to the same hero. But we might open it up to any unit's familiar if it seems better.

 

[Kyrbi0]

I think doing polls have turned into a necessary bureaucracy to contests more than anything. To a Mini-Contest as this, it seems too much. I could think of other ideas too if I gave it more time, but I thought there would be nothing wrong with for once proposing a contest along with its theme, as long as the community receives it well.

(did you mean "unnecessary"?)
Hm. I'll move this to PMs so as not to get too bogged down. Regardless, those are my alternative suggestions.

Yes, yes, those are 24 alternatives only for contestants. There are the campaign heroes as well, as Akama, Sylvanas Windrunner, Archimonde, Malfurion, Jaina, etc. In the end might end up as 30 options or so. I think it's an ok limit, since two contestants can do different familiars to the same hero. But we might open it up to any unit's familiar if it seems better.

No way man, don't fold! In-game is best-game. There are loads of good options there. : )

 

[Edge45]

And another question, when its familiars, does that also include mechanicals? (Like the Goblin Tinkers clockwerks)

 

[HappyCockroach]

And another question, when its familiars, does that also include mechanicals? (Like the Goblin Tinkers clockwerks)

Of course it does. It may be organic, mechanical, elemental, ethereal, spiritual, etc. As long as it is a lesser companion to that hero.

 

[Edge45]

Ah ok, thanks
That's should be the last of my questions then.

 

[Direfury]

So basically, a lil goblin whos sole purpose is to carry around the Pandaren Brewmasters' booze would count.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Be cuter if it were a tiny Panda-kid. Balancing a beer mug on it's head.

 

[Direfury]

This is basically a more vague "Apprentice" theme. I can get behind that.

 

[HappyCockroach]

This is basically a more vague "Apprentice" theme. I can get behind that.

Not at all. An apprentice implies it's learning something with its master. Here it's like well.. a pet or familiar. :|

Might be a creature of different nature than the master, which isn't exactly being an 'apprentice' of his/her. Could you say the Wolf companion of a hunter is his apprentice? ...or a Warlock's Imp? Would sound kinda weird... but well, you may approach the theme as you prefer, as long as you don't stretch it too far.

 

[Direfury]

So I could make a Kel'Thuzad model to go with Arthas.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Like maybe a ghostly Kel'Thuzad spirit/face, oozing out of Terenas' Urn... DANG that would be sick, especially if you used that sick Urn icon as the texture... Dang.

 

[HappyCockroach]

So I could make a Kel'Thuzad model to go with Arthas.

Oh well.. Can I un-read that? xD

 

[Direfury]

No. :>

 

[The_Silent]

This theme is very similar to the "Critter" theme we had in the past. When that is said, we always need more critters.

 

[PROXY]

So, lets put this up?

 

[Kyrbi0]

Do eet.

 

[PROXY]

Dooo iiiiit.

 

[Freddyk]

I like this proposal, do it!
But what is a "mini" modeling contest? How is it different from a normal modeling contest?

 

[HappyCockroach]

Modeling Contest #29 is over.. we could get this going

@Freddyk, a Mini-Contest has shorter deadline and generally involves easier themes - we already had critters, attachments, 128-poly models...
A pet familiar, in a sense it is a lesser unit in size and importance, could be a plausible theme for such. But thinking twice... it should have mesh/anims and all regular models have... It could make up for a regular contest. Its up to ourselves to decide.

If we think this theme is too complex for a mini-contest - and thats the kind of contest we want, we could put up something else for a theme. I had an idea, if anyone is up for it. It would be doing a Housing building. Any building meant for food supply, as moon wells, farms, burrows, etc. Simple, quick, and allows some creativity. That would mean leaving Familiar on the shelf for a regular contest coming next.

 

[PROXY]

Depends. Im not much a fan of buildings, but I'd be up for that. Although I think familars have to be at leasta bit simpler then the standard model, bc if they catch too much attention (in relatiom to the original wc3 model, their keeper) it will draw the focus on them which is not good. I guess that would increase the difficulty but also thw fun.

 

[HappyCockroach]

Depends. Im not much a fan of buildings, but I'd be up for that. Although I think familars have to be at leasta bit simpler then the standard model, bc if they catch too much attention (in relatiom to the original wc3 model, their keeper) it will draw the focus on them which is not good. I guess that would increase the difficulty but also thw fun.

I'm not a big fan of buildings either, but it's been a while since we had a building themed contest, and many people participate with much more ease in those, due to the little animation difficulty involved.

 

[Hantoo]

Building would be a disaster for me, im really horrible at those...

I really love the famillar idea tho

 

[The_Silent]

I'm pro structures and the like for mini contests, because the animations and the meshes is relatively simple to do, but can also be done really well. Aka, they're easy to learn, hard to master, kinda.

 

[Kyrbi0]

I'm a MASSIVE fan of a Building modeling Contest, Mini- or otherwise. Not enough (racial) buildings.

@Hayate & @PROXY: this is exactly the kind of thing that gives you a reason to practice! Break outta your shell & learn some new skills! ; D
(I assure you there are plenty of good ideas floating around... *cough*)

Besides, PROXY, you aren't as bad as you think. People are still using your Pandaren town hall.

 

[Freddyk]

@Freddyk, a Mini-Contest has shorter deadline and generally involves easier themes - we already had critters, attachments, 128-poly models...
A pet familiar, in a sense it is a lesser unit in size and importance, could be a plausible theme for such. But thinking twice... it should have mesh/anims and all regular models have... It could make up for a regular contest. Its up to ourselves to decide.

Well, then I think Familiar fits more in mini-contest than in normal contest.
Usually in normal contests we have very complex mesh with lots of anims. Familiar is pretty close to Critter, a small and simple mesh with few anims.

 

[HappyCockroach]

While Housing was generally well-received, I guess Familiar was more of an unanimity. Anyone oposes we putting up a Familiar mini-contest? (And surely, keeping the Housing theme on the shelf for future contests )

(There's also the option of doing a regular contest out of the theme)

 

[The_Silent]

Nobody has anything to say, lets get this moving.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Do Eet.

 

[HappyCockroach]

Contest thread is up!

Modeling Mini-Contest #5

Go thinking up what will you'll put together.

I've put up the guidelines there. They feature a "mini-poll", with 20% weight, and 1 week duration, despite this being a mini-contest. Reason is, polls help giving contests more visibility too, so we gather more possible participants to next ones. Also, while judges judge, 1 week of a poll won't delay us. (I've set some poll guidelines there to make it fairer too)

Officially starts Wednesday, 15, so if guidelines change a bit, not much of a problem.