[Model Request] Bad Chicken

[FeelsGoodMan]

Do you know what would be really awesome? A giant monster cicken! It would be a dream of mine coming true if anyone would make something like that. It's for a silly little secret boss in a map I am making

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[deepstrasz]

Or @Retera is a master of model fusion.

Chicken head+Hippogryph wings+Hippogryph claws/Dragon claws+Dragon/Snap Dragon tail+smartness=almost what you want

 

[stein123]

Kinda of like this? Basilisk

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Chicken head+Hippogryph wings+Hippogryph claws/Dragon claws+Dragon/Snap Dragon tail+smartness=almost what you want

Something like that would indeed be awesome!

Kinda of like this? Basilisk

Almost EXACTLY like that, only it needs to be a ground unit (ground walking animations)

 

[deepstrasz]

Chicken head+Hippogryph wings+Hippogryph claws/Dragon claws+Dragon/Snap Dragon tail+smartness=almost what you want

On second thought, it might be hard animating the Dragon/Hippogryph legs for ground movement so, either Dragonspawn legs or something like:
Gryphon Knight

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

On second thought, it might be hard animating the Dragon/Hippogryph legs for ground movement so, either Dragonspawn legs or something like:
Gryphon Knight

Actually even something so simple as a chicken body and head with dragon wings and tail would do it.

Maybe some angry eyes too

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Anyone up to the task?

 

[deepstrasz]

I could try something like this but I still need to figure out how to properly attach things to the chicken's animations:

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

I could try something like this but I still need to figure out how to properly attach things to the chicken's animations:

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Something like this would be amazing!

 

[deepstrasz]

Tried some stuff but couldn't add a proper attack animation. Still have to understand how to connect bones and stuff of the model I'm trying to import the animation from.
However, I've basically edited the chicken model with a green dragon tail and wings and changed some things regarding parts of the chicken feathers.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Nice! Will test it right away, thank you so much!

EDIT: So here's what I noticed: The height of the model should be a bit higher I believe. The legs are underground. I solved it by setting the unit height in the editor so not really an issue.

Its head is doing some real weird stuff during the stand and walk animation haha. And parts of its legs are missing, poor chicken.

Other than that I really like it actually. I will see if I can have someone add an attack animation to it

 

[deepstrasz]

Its head is doing some real weird stuff during the stand and walk animation haha. And parts of its legs are missing, poor chicken.

I haven't edited anything but the chicken wings and newly added material. Those faces it makes are utterly disgusting but I don't think it can be solved without properly recreating the model.
The legs are like that by default sadly. It's a really bad model. All critter models are awful.

Regarding an attack animation, from what I've seen, the hydra is the only two legged creature in the game to have a somewhat proper animation for this model.
If anyone from @Warseeker @Hermit @SonsOfSami could add that animation or maybe a better one from a custom model, that would be wonderful. I'd also like to know how to do it because I tried and didn't really succeed in porting it like it's on any original model.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Those faces it makes are utterly disgusting

This chicken has been through some shit, that's for sure. It's not only the outside that matters though, inner beauty is important too.

The legs are like that by default sadly

They're not that important, the chicken can live without them.

 

[deepstrasz]

Made a custom lol attack animation based on the chicken's stand.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Made a custom lol attack animation based on the chicken's stand.

Haha that elongated neck though I will use it, terrifying as it is!

 

[deepstrasz]

I will use it, terrifying as it is!

Thanks for the horrid support, lol.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Thanks for the horrid support, lol.

Terrifying as in fear inducing!

It wasn't meant as a negative thing, as I said I really like it! Good work on your first model

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

@deepstrasz Is the attack animation from the Frost Wyrm? I saw you mentioned it somewhere.

 

[deepstrasz]

Is the attack animation from the Frost Wyrm? I saw you mentioned it somewhere.

Made a custom lol attack animation based on the chicken's stand.

I tried importing that one and others but couldn't do it properly.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

I tried importing that one and others but couldn't do it properly.

Alright, cool

 

[deepstrasz]

Alright, cool

But what's the deal?

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

But what's the deal?

Just wondering how you did it

 

[deepstrasz]

Just wondering how you did it

Used Retera's Model Studio, copied/duplicated the Chicken's Stand animation, then used the studio's animation editor and moved some of the neck bones at 3 time frames: in the beginning, stretched in the middle of the animation time duration and lastly at the end, reduced the neck length back to normal.

EDIT: also raised and lowered the wings.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Used Retera's Model Studio, copied/duplicated the Chicken's Stand animation, then used the studio's animation editor and moved some of the neck bones at 3 time frames: in the beginning, stretched in the middle of the animation time duration and lastly at the end, reduced the neck length back to normal.

How much would you say you have used any model editors prior to making this model? I feel like I should at least learn some basics so I can do simple edits myself.

 

[deepstrasz]

How much would you say you have used any model editors prior to making this model? I feel like I should at least learn some basics so I can do simple edits myself.

I've been using Magos' War3 Model Editor now and then. Never worked with animations before. Usually, exported/changed/imported textures.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

I've been using Magos' War3 Model Editor now and then. Never worked with animations before. Usually, exported/changed/imported textures.

Alright. Guess I will be taking a look at some simple models and reading some tutorials when I get back from work today then

 

[deepstrasz]

Alright. Guess I will be taking a look at some simple models and reading some tutorials when I get back from work today then

Yeah, check Retera's channel:
TheShorka

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Yeah, check Retera's channel:
TheShorka

Nice channel. I just watched him transfer animations from a grunt to a footman. I will be checking this some more later.

 

[deepstrasz]

I just watched him transfer animations from a grunt to a footman

Yeah, it gets tricky when models are really different, say chicken and hydra which have so many bone number and type differences.

 

[Retera]

Hi! I was mentioned in this thread, and it looked fun.
I tried my hand at making a model for this. Here is a Retera take on it after one evening of playing around:

I didn't do any kind of custom texture for that yet. Feel free to modify it or make any kind of custom texture that you want for sure.

Basically I took the Wyvern, shoved the Hippogryph claws and wings onto it and forced it to fit the animations by using the Right-Click -> "Re-assign Matrix" tool a whole bunch of times, then this led to a silly model with a hole in it. I then bent around the Hippogryph beak so its mouth was always open and it would look more unusual, and then I likewise assigned this beak to fit with the wyvern animations.
At that point it needed the tail so I brought in the snap dragon tail and again forced it into fitting the animations.
With that, there were holes in it so I tried to stick them up. Then for flare I stuck some chicken stuffs on it to cover up the back. By then it was looking awful so I did more re-assign matrix tweaking to improve how it fit the anims.
Then I put the chicken tail frill stuff on the back to look nice, but it didn't fit so I did the right-click "Split Geoset" option on the back of the snap dragon mesh that I had attempted to stitch in, and on the split geoset did a texture swap to the chicken texture.
Then I wanted the eyes to glow so I brought in the blue glow from the Watcher Ward.

I'm still not really sure if it looks good, but this is just my take on having fun with this project since somebody threw me the @

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Hi! I was mentioned in this thread, and it looked fun.
I tried my hand at making a model for this. Here is a Retera take on it after one evening of playing around:
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I didn't do any kind of custom texture for that yet. Feel free to modify it or make any kind of custom texture that you want for sure.

Basically I took the Wyvern, shoved the Hippogryph claws and wings onto it and forced it to fit the animations by using the Right-Click -> "Re-assign Matrix" tool a whole bunch of times, then this led to a silly model with a hole in it. I then bent around the Hippogryph beak so its mouth was always open and it would look more unusual, and then I likewise assigned this beak to fit with the wyvern animations.
At that point it needed the tail so I brought in the snap dragon tail and again forced it into fitting the animations.
With that, there were holes in it so I tried to stick them up. Then for flare I stuck some chicken stuffs on it to cover up the back. By then it was looking awful so I did more re-assign matrix tweaking to improve how it fit the anims.
Then I put the chicken tail frill stuff on the back to look nice, but it didn't fit so I did the right-click "Split Geoset" option on the back of the snap dragon mesh that I had attempted to stitch in, and on the split geoset did a texture swap to the chicken texture.
Then I wanted the eyes to glow so I brought in the blue glow from the Watcher Ward.

I'm still not really sure if it looks good, but this is just my take on having fun with this project since somebody threw me the @

This looks awesome! However I need a ground unit haha, but thanks for the effort!

 

[deepstrasz]

I'm still not really sure if it looks good, but this is just my take on having fun with this project since somebody threw me the @

Sweet! Now, just make morph and walk animations like on this model Gryphon Knight Pleaaase!

 

[Retera]

I experimented last night with trying to give it land animations but I didn't like the product yet. It was interesting, though.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

I experimented last night with trying to give it land animations but I didn't like the product yet. It was interesting, though.
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Cool! Is it based on the ghoul? Also the attack animation looks a bit weird but it works, good job!

 

[Retera]

Yeah, it was recommended to me to try to give it ghoul animations. They weren't perfect, though, so I used murloc animations instead. They're the same, but simpler and with a death animation that doesn't require splitting the model into two parts.