MineralZ 1.55(f)

[maddeem]

Yeah, waves are now much quicker.

 

[mzo52003]

Quick question guys:
Would you mind/care if I made it so regenerators/generators could only target 1 unit at a time?

This would be smaller building space
Unless there is more advanced walls and turrets,

Played before "POWER TD" is used in the manner specified,target 8 unit at a time
GOOGLE translation, I do not know grammar right

 

[Zeatherann]

Cool, I'll definitely try 1.3 now lol.

 

[papuce]

Hello
To Zeatherann: about that bug, it 100% exists or I dont know how is possible that friend can build base with about 100 maxed tesla coils and only 3 droids, while I got 6 droids and about 30 maxed tesla coils. Trust me, that´s true and it is my real friend. ;-)
To Maddeem: great thing doing waves quicker and please please do something with performance. If there are a lot of tesla coils, etc., game is impossible to finish cos it is always quitting with some error in levels above 55... and I dont like building a base without big Tesla core :-/
Looking forward to 1.3, good luck with that

 

[Zeatherann]

What bug hehe?

If Maddeem wasn't lazy, we'd have less performance issues ^..^. Anyways, the biggest bug is the custom icons in the game. Maddeem needs to properly set up every blp resource he imports correctly to allow Mac clients the ability to actually play the map.

Slight UI Annoyance: Make the in-game minimap black or something other than the current Mineralz logo. That works great for previews, but not so much for income use. Infection uses a pure white minimap so that visibility works correctly on the minimap (If it was black, you couldn't tell what you explored, or what you currently have sight of). This also lowers file size because the in-game minimap would only take 1kb or something, versus the current 192kb.

 

[maddeem]

Slight UI Annoyance: Make the in-game minimap black or something other than the current Mineralz logo. That works great for previews, but not so much for income use. Infection uses a pure white minimap so that visibility works correctly on the minimap (If it was black, you couldn't tell what you explored, or what you currently have sight of). This also lowers file size because the in-game minimap would only take 1kb or something, versus the current 192kb.

Already did that. However you can use the minimap as the preview image, and customize the minimap through importing. So I only ever had one file for both the minimap and the preview. And plus the current version has a grey minimap lol

 

[Zeatherann]

Sweet! Now fix your .blp icons and junk to work with Macs.

 

[maddeem]

Ehh if I didn't release it now, I never would.
1.3 is finally done.

 

[ArOn]

woah! awesome terrain

 

[Deleted member 219079]

So many changes, will make a list later

Can you even remember all the changes? ^^

 

[mzo52003]

Hero

 

[maddeem]

Hero

Quite a magnificent base

 

[Zeatherann]

Hehe, not a complete change log. Lazy lazy. How high do waves go up to?

 

[maddeem]

Hehe, not a complete change log. Lazy lazy. How high do waves go up to?

Still 60

 

[win11511]

View attachment 1.3 Normal.w3g

 

[savinguptobebroke]

What does the BioEngereering bay do ?
And could you nerf wave 30's boss as the has incredibly fast health regeneration and the can create strong mirror images of himself , I think the should be weaker.
Can you save credits in single player and if you spend your credits is it gone forever or do you get it back + what you earned when you save?
Can you use a save more than once?
Lastly you should add a link to the forms on the map preview.

 

[Zeatherann]

Singleplayer saving not supported, sadly.
Spending credits are not gone forever. Reloading earns em back.
Saving more than once is allowed.
Wave 30 Boss is fine.

 

[Blue310]

There are some bugs in Tesla towers. I've already built about 40 Teslas but only 3 were working....
And another small bug is that the display of collection speed about diamond on level 17 is wrong.It displays level 175 but not level 17.

 

[wkjy4ever]

there are bug in BioEngereering?i could build it even i meet the requirement

 

[Welll]

Hello! i've started playing this map from 1.28 version.
I really like it so far so keep it up!
Got few suggestions...
First of all - i really like this "power" conception where you need a generator to power other buildings.
@DO NOT CONSIDER THIS AS advertising@
Also i am a big fan of "Power Towers" (td map in wc3 http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=96536 which is not really being updated, because developer moved to sc2 engine), latest version is 1.3 as far as i know. This map has very interesting power management conception (different generator types, transmitters, etc) which i used to enjoy alot and still do.
No idea how hard it will be but still - my suggestion is to improve/upgrade current "power" generation/transmision/consumption system in MINERALZ into more deeper one (similar to PowerTowers). Examples:
Generation - generator has to (or can - as option?) be build on certain spot (or even on top of mineral as a fuel source??) thus there could be 4 different types of "power" generated by generator depending on mineral type;
Consumption - taking into account (described above) different "power" types could change offencive pressure of powered towers (damage bonus,attack type, different abilities?);
Transmision - if generator can be build only in certain spot (on top of mineral) then transmission tower (upgradeable range/transmition rate/number of simultaneous transmitions) will be needed to pass that energy to further buildings/objects;
Thats just my small desire.
btw i really enjoyed that tesla chaining ability that was in 1.28 and which you removed at 1.3 (very similar to "power transfer" conception which i suggested here). wish you would bring it back.
Did not want to offend anyone with this suggestion. Just think its a cool way to upgrade gameplay. Cheers!

 

[mzo52003]

Hello! i've started playing this map from 1.28 version.
I really like it so far so keep it up!
Got few suggestions...
First of all - i really like this "power" conception where you need a generator to power other buildings.
@DO NOT CONSIDER THIS AS advertising@
Also i am a big fan of "Power Towers" (td map in wc3 http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=96536 which is not really being updated, because developer moved to sc2 engine), latest version is 1.3 as far as i know. This map has very interesting power management conception (different generator types, transmitters, etc) which i used to enjoy alot and still do.
No idea how hard it will be but still - my suggestion is to improve/upgrade current "power" generation/transmision/consumption system in MINERALZ into more deeper one (similar to PowerTowers). Examples:
Generation - generator has to (or can - as option?) be build on certain spot (or even on top of mineral as a fuel source??) thus there could be 4 different types of "power" generated by generator depending on mineral type;
Consumption - taking into account (described above) different "power" types could change offencive pressure of powered towers (damage bonus,attack type, different abilities?);
Transmision - if generator can be build only in certain spot (on top of mineral) then transmission tower (upgradeable range/transmition rate/number of simultaneous transmitions) will be needed to pass that energy to further buildings/objects;
Thats just my small desire.
btw i really enjoyed that tesla chaining ability that was in 1.28 and which you removed at 1.3 (very similar to "power transfer" conception which i suggested here). wish you would bring it back.
Did not want to offend anyone with this suggestion. Just think its a cool way to upgrade gameplay. Cheers!

I also like to play "Power Towers"

 

[Zeatherann]

User Interface Suggestion

The upkeep box. It needs to be changed to fix the game more. Make it display the player's title? It's better than an ugly black box.

Text - General - 'Gold Income Rate:'	|cff000000
Text - General - 'Upkeep is determined by the amount of food your forces are currently using.'	Titles are awarded based on the hardest difficulty you've beaten.	R2C3
Text - General - 'Upkeep:'	Title:
Text - General - '|Cff00ff00No Upkeep'	None
Text - General - '|Cffff0000High Upkeep 2'	Hard Mode Title
Text - General - '|Cffff0000High Upkeep 3'	Very Hard Mode Title
Text - General - '|Cffff0000High Upkeep 3'	Nightmare Mode Title
Text - General - '|Cffff0000High Upkeep 4'	Hell Mode Title
Text - General - '|Cffff0000High Upkeep'	Normal Mode Title
Text - General - '|Cffffff00Low Upkeep'	Easy Mode Title
Text - General - '|N%d-%d Food: %s|R (%d%% G, %d%% L)'	|n|cff000000%d|rWave %d: %s|r
Text - General - '|N%d-%d Food: %s|R (%d%% income)'	|n|cff000000%d|rWave %d: %s|r

And these.

Upkeep - Food Levels

40,50,60,70,80,90,100

I use |cff000000 for some texts because I've changed the semi-transparent gray background of my maps to a pure opaque black. This also makes for a nice look. Attached is the file I use to do this with. This blp file works for mac clients. In order to get the new background image to work correctly import it as "Downloaded\Black32.blp".

Image - Game Menu Background	Downloaded\Black32.blp
Image - Game Menu Editbox Background	Downloaded\Black32.blp
Image - Game Menu Popup Menu Menu Background	Downloaded\Black32.blp
Image - Multiboard Background	Downloaded\Black32.blp
Image - Quest Dialog Background	Downloaded\Black32.blp
Image - Quest Dialog Normal Background	Downloaded\Black32.blp
Image - Tooltip Background	Downloaded\Black32.blp

The little changes to the User Interface can create such a better feel for the map. Also consider using colors for the titles, it helps.

PS: The fields in the above tables are in the same order as the editor.

 

[maddeem]

Wow that is very helpful, thank you
Map description now contains my Bug list/To do list!
Any bug you post here will be put on the board

 

[mzo52003]

New Tesla Attack Method:

 

[maddeem]

New Tesla Attack Method:

Greed is good

 

[Darnassus]

New Tesla Attack Method:

Holy Hellfire, look at all your credits. Also the new Tesla Tower method makes me sad face! I miss making a giant surrounding fence with a battery in the heart of my base. Watching the lightning bolt just make a giant ring around everything was fun. Anyhow, I'm going to come back and play this when I get the chance. Thanks for update words Maddeem. Can't wait to jump onto Warcraft ]|[ and hunt for all the little creepy crawlies and check out the new buildings!

 

[Zeatherann]

I hope that the new method still allows good damage build-up and gives less lag. Why was the old method bad, was it just your coding?

 

[mzo52003]

Greed is good

whosyourdaddy
greedisgood

But still have to dig minerals


I like the old model
Because they can reduce the front space
And it produces the largest single high Damage Done
(GOOGLE translation, hope can be expressed correctly)

 

[NeedNotoknow]

I love Mineralz!!

It so hard for me to complete easy mode to 40... The stage 40 boss destroy almost all of my tower but i still manage to win the stage 40.

 

[maddeem]

I hope that the new method still allows good damage build-up and gives less lag. Why was the old method bad, was it just your coding?

It was the coding, my god it was horrific. It still is, though the method is less laggy in general.

 

[Zeatherann]

I might be able to help you maddeem.

If you want the old method still. I personally like this new method, though it'll have to be balanced with tougher tesla coil towers because less can attack at once. I'm sure I can improve your code for the new method as well. Send me a pm about what you think.

Side Note: Your new animated signature fails when not on 'Night Elf' theme. The old PNG was fine though.

 

[Darnassus]

It so hard for me to complete easy mode to 40... The stage 40 boss destroy almost all of my tower but i still manage to win the stage 40.

You get used to it all, trust me. I've gotten so used to all the waves now, I set up for everything but keep forgetting to prepare for Boss wave 20. xD Then I die. ;d

You will grow used to it though.. play more and more, the credits will help so you can try harder difficulties. ;3

It was the coding, my god it was horrific. It still is, though the method is less laggy in general.

Love the new effects now. Looks great, and the commentator for "Not enough Mineralz" was the long needed missing touch. ;3 Good work, Maddy!

 

[sky3907532]

I always GG in stage 40......

 

[NeedNotoknow]

Is there any saying that Mighty doesn't have credit on stage 10? After i get Mighty, about 4 game i play didn't get credit for stage 10 but other's boss stage do have. My friends also get the same thing. Is this normal or problem? Love the droid!

 

[wkjy4ever]

maddeem,i play few times on new map already,got a bug about credit,sometime i and my friend got credit in night 10,20,30,40,but sometime juz get credit from night 30 and 40 only..does this a normal condition or a bug?

and also when i upgrade 12 turrent to it max lvl,it crash ,then my friend and mine war3 closed

 

[Zeatherann]

If your credits (loaded) total more than double(?) the number of credits normally received from the boss round you won't get any credits.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Saving now saves a text file to C:/MineralZ/Version, still working on this

I have my warcraft 3 on J drive, does that cause any issues?

 

[mzo52003]

maddeem,i play few times on new map already,got a bug about credit,sometime i and my friend got credit in night 10,20,30,40,but sometime juz get credit from night 30 and 40 only..does this a normal condition or a bug?

and also when i upgrade 12 turrent to it max lvl,it crash ,then my friend and mine war3 closed

Normal(50)
1+2+3+4+5 15 15
1+2+3+4+5 15 30
0+2+3+4+5 14 44
0+0+3+4+5 12 56
0+0+3+4+5 12 68
0+0+0+4+5 9 77
0+0+0+4+5 9 86
0+0+0+0+5 5 91
0+0+0+0+5 5 96

Hard(60)
0+0+0+0+5+6 11 107
0+0+0+0+0+6 6 113
0+0+0+0+0+6 6 119
0+0+0+0+0+6 6 125

 

[Darnassus]

Waves still need a little more scaling.

 

[Zeatherann]

Waves still suck, and will continue to until you (maddeem) can remove duplicate waves, or make waves random.

Also, cut the number of waves in half.

 

[papuce]

I think in 1.28 everything was nearly balanced (time/cost/buildingspeed/waves/dmg/boss).
I would not cut waves in half, about lv7 boss time seems to be OK, because you need time to build and move and mine and enjoy the atmosphere.
A playtime is +- 2:30 - 3:00, so it could be cut a bit, about 2 hours playtime should be great I think.

 

[Darnassus]

Must remember though this isn't professional, and is unpaid. So of course things won't be perfect or dead focused on.

 

[NeedNotoknow]

Then let just stop picking about the waves, time, tower cost thing.

The inferno tower tier 8 is splash damage or just damage the monster nearby the tower? If splash damage, it doesn't work, but if damage nearby the tower, never saw it before and i never do the tower too front.

EDIT: I do saw the inferno tower's aura, it indeed is burn the monster nearby the tower. So this not a problem after all.

 

[Zeatherann]

This is a fun game indeed, however the fact that it takes an hour to get between bosses (or even half an hour) is stupid. It kills the fun. Myself and my friends never can finish a game because we run out of time.

 

[NeedNotoknow]

This is a fun game indeed, however the fact that it takes an hour to get between bosses (or even half an hour) is stupid. It kills the fun. Myself and my friends never can finish a game because we run out of time.

I do have this problem lol. If we start to play on 9, it will go to 11 or 12.
And if didn't choose mode, the player don't have the top right bar for 4 type of resource.

 

[Zeatherann]

Maddeem has failure all over in his code. Half of this is due to laziness.

Oh, can you update the thread by updating credits list, and removing old screenshots, and making the current screenshots a smaller size? I still find issues with the map description, though most are personal taste and/or superficial.

 

[Darnassus]

This is a fun game indeed, however the fact that it takes an hour to get between bosses (or even half an hour) is stupid. It kills the fun. Myself and my friends never can finish a game because we run out of time.

Or disconnect.

 

[NeedNotoknow]

Or disconnect.

Agree.

 

[monkeyboy15]

Hmm. So I was wondering if you could make your towers look like this? Just a suggestion.

Build Thermal Turret [A]

[0][0][0]4]

Damage: 11 - 13 [Magic]
Armor: 0 [Fortified]
Base Hit Points: 10 [20 Upgraded]

A defensive structure with the capabilities to destroy attackers, requires energy to fire.

Requires power.

Attacks land units only.

Range: 500.

 

[Zeatherann]

Why are the attack damages magic? Never understood that. You should create your own custom types for damage and armor, changing the damage ratios isn't required though.