Math, Science <-- Screw Em

[Snarewave]

I don't see the point of having to take these classes. I waste lotta my time learning about circles and triangles and frogs and whatnot. Really, are these all necessary information required to survive in the modern world? Heck no! So why have em as a mandatory class? Share your deep thoughts about this.

God Bless.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

You obviously have no interest in math or science, so no, there doesn't seem to be a point to you.

Others, like me, actually love physics or chemistry or calculus. It's fascinating. Not to mention it usually leads to better jobs.

 

[Snarewave]

Others, like me, actually love physics or chemistry or calculus. It's fascinating. Not to mention it usually leads to better jobs.

What? I think I just heard someone crash a cymbal. Would you repeat that?

No, It's not like I want to wipe off the courses off the face of the earth, I just don't want em mandatory. They (Being school people) should make the classes electives for people are yourself who actually likes (ahem) learning the stuff or planning to major in. Seriously, I hate having to go and feel terrible about myself cause I suck at mastering the stuff I probably won't ever use in my life after school.

That's my two cents there.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

No offense, but there are some things people just NEED to know. High school math and science included. It's so you don't sound retarded and don't start screaming about how the earth is flat and cats have can survive death 9 times.

 

[Snarewave]

No offense taken, but I still would rather have these guys do that math.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Don't come complaining at us when you leave school, get behind a desk computer at an IT office and have absolutely no clue how to operate such machine.

And Excel.

 

[Midnighters]

No offense taken, but I still would rather have these guys do that math.

So you are saying you do not want to be making good money out in the real world? You are saying that all math and science classes are complete shit? You say there is no need for them? Then you sir, are not going make it well out in the real world, because it is used for many things, if you ever want a decent job, you need to know what to do.

Don't come complaining at us when you leave school, get behind a desk computer at an IT office and have absolutely no clue how to operate such machine.

And Excel.

Excel is easy to use, I use it on a regular basis since my mother does spreadsheets and accounting.

 

[Coolty44]

4 years down the road:

Snarewave: Thank you for calling mircosoft support line, how can I help you?
Person: My Windows 9 calculator isn't working, it says 2+2=5.
Snarewave: Is that not correct?

Just my 2 cents

 

[Deleted member 157129]

I don't see the point of having to take these classes. I waste lotta my time learning about circles and triangles and frogs and whatnot. Really, are these all necessary information required to survive in the modern world? Heck no! So why have em as a mandatory class? Share your deep thoughts about this.

God Bless.

If any course in school should be mandatory, it is maths. It's nearly the only useful class there is in school. What would you do without maths? The truth is, you can't imagine what it's like without it. You use it all the time. After that, language is important; mother tongue (for tradition, and easy to learn as first language) and English (for universal communication). There's really no absolute need for any of the other courses. Religion, History and Geography topping the list of useless school subjects. If you seek knowledge within these topics, it should be possible to choose to study them, otherwise, you are not required to. Science (physics, chemistry and biology) is actually quite important in comparison to those three, but it requires a certain kind of interest (just like with Religion).

I love maths and science, and they are the only classes I did good in, and I still do while I proceed with higher education.

Those are my two cents.

 

[BlargHonk]

It would be fun if the laws of physics didn't apply to those who did not learn them

I think he would just explode into pure energy from ignorance.

 

[Snarewave]

So you are saying you do not want to be making good money out in the real world? You are saying that all math and science classes are complete shit? You say there is no need for them? Then you sir, are not going make it well out in the real world, because it is used for many things, if you ever want a decent job, you need to know what to do.

Read the third post man, Im not saying math and science classes are completely useless, Im trying to say that lot of things I learn from the classes dosen't seem necessarily super important as they make it sound like in school.

P.S. Lotta two cents, 2+2+2 = 3? (Joking, Im really not that dumb)

 

[Midnighters]

Read the third post man, Im not saying math and science classes are completely useless, Im trying to say that lot of things I learn from the classes dosen't seem necessarily super important as they make it sound like in school.

Many things you learn are important for certain jobs, if you do not know what is required, you will not get the job, simple as that.

 

[Snarewave]

Many things you learn are important for certain jobs, if you do not know what is required, you will not get the job, simple as that.

Hey you even said it yourself. Elective classes for certain jobs.

 

[oh_snap]

Religion, History and Geography topping the list of useless school subjects.

Yes, because why would we ever need to know why our culture and other cultures are the way they are today. And why would we ever need to know that France isn't next to Russia? [/sarcasm]

In all seriousness, the aim of Geography and History is to prevent you from being ignorant, self centered, and unaware of the world that is around you. As for religion, in the United States at least, it's not a required subject.

~Snap

 

[Duragon]

Algebra, geometry, and precalculus are necessary for common life. There are countless examples of their applications in every walk of life. You need them, that's why they're mandatory. You will use the exponential function in your life. You will use the sine and cosine waves in your life. You haven't yet, you say? You will. You'll be glad you've seen them at least once when you do.

As for basic sciences, not everything can be solved with a practical approach to the world. You need chemistry because no matter what you do in life, you will mix two chemicals together at some point. You need to know how to handle yourself when you do and be able to figure out what's going on so you know if you might create something hazardous or not. You need biology as well, particularly when they start talking about the flu on the news or something. You need to not be completely unaware of what they mean when they say that the virus has evolved or has achieved homeostasis within a given system.

Those are the mandatory classes for high school, and there is a good reason for their being mandatory. The entire goal of mandatory education is to educate students and try to generally improve the average intellect of the human population. Forcing them into situations where they can garner such knowledge is the only way to do it. If it were all electives, the unmotivated people would get nothing out of education and only the initially-motivated people would pursue the harder options. The goal is to try to motivate those unmotivated people to partake of the wonders of the advancement of the human race as a collective.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

If you didn't have maths, you wouldn't even know what that silly plus (or whatever it's name is) is for. Now, tell me, how do you plan on living without any sense of logic, without the ability to count, to add.. only talk. "I will have a banana. I will have another banana." resulting from the lack of knowing the quantity two. "I ate a banana, and then I ate a banana."

Pretty much like a monkey.

 

[Snarewave]

Oh common, I would expect at least one person in Hive would be on my side.

 

[Midnighters]

If you didn't have maths, you wouldn't even know what that silly plus (or whatever it's name is) is for. Now, tell me, how do you plan on living without any sense of logic, without the ability to count, to add.. only talk. "I will have a banana. I will have another banana." resulting from the lack of knowing the quantity two. "I ate a banana, and then I ate a banana."

Pretty much like a monkey.

Very true, he would probably throw his poo also.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Yes, because why would we ever need to know why our culture and other cultures are the way they are today. And why would we ever need to know that France isn't next to Russia? [/sarcasm]

In all seriousness, the aim of Geography and History is to prevent you from being ignorant, self centered, and unaware of the world that is around you. As for religion, in the United States at least, it's not a required subject.

~Snap

Indeed. It is a completely different goal than all the other subjects (excluding Religion, which has the same goal as History and Geography), hence if anything should be elective, it would be those three.

 

[Snarewave]

Very true, he would probably throw his poo also.

Ha, you got that from the Dookie album. (Monkey on the Bottom Left)

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

No, people just know that monkeys tend to throw shit at each other.

See, if you'd go to school, you'd know this.

 

[Snarewave]

... I feeling the second own.

Anyways, all this talk dosen't mean a bit. I still hate Math. I still hate Science.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Hating it sure ain't going to get you good grades.

 

[HINDYhat]

scool is uselsse epsecialy MATH omg like wtf r numbers 4 neway?/?????????

In any case, I completely agree with Duragon.

Concerning religion classes: where I went, religion class was used to explain some of the different philosophies and religions from different cultures, while not actually going into the religious aspect. I believe that it's important to learn about these things, so as not to necessarily swallow what your culture offers, and to give you time to think about where you're headed.

 

[Duragon]

Agreed. It is important to be cultured, so classes exposing you to the religions and histories and languages of the world are tremendously important. They are as important as the math and science ones to educating a student.

 

[Nbah]

Saying subjects like Math and Science are useless makes you childish. How do you think the computer you play on everyday was made? Certainly without any kind of Math knowledge, I'm sure. Ofcourse you need these subjects, Math is extremely helpful in life when it goes to some professions and certain things. Maybe not needed to survive in the modern world, but yeah, I guess if you plan to work as a garbage collector or something it isn't that needed.

 

[Duragon]

If you are a garbage collector, you still need to be able to pay your taxes properly.

 

[PurplePoot]

I for one think that the average person is an indication that we need more, not less math, science, history, geography, world religion, etc classes (mandatory classes, that is).

You're at school to get an education. Drop out if you don't like it, but otherwise you will have to accept that it won't all be a cake walk.

Oh, and you have no idea how much your understanding (however limited) of math and science has changed your outlook on the world.

 

[uberfoop]

This also might be a good time to point out that to actually be comfortable with something, it helps to have extended yourself to the level above that thing. That way, when the ride gets bumpy, you have the tools you need to either rebuild or just completely bs your way through something that you totally forgot/lost/never learned properly, and you'll be more comfortable with what you're doing in general.


Besides, math wins. It just does. And Calculus is pretty much the Egil Skallagrimson of high school classes.

 

[Midnighters]

Ha, you got that from the Dookie album. (Monkey on the Bottom Left)

No, I really didn't I think Green Day sucks, and I don't listen to them.

 

[Nudl9]

Quit school and start doing drugs

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

^Wise words.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Wrong thread, Snap.

 

[Deaod]

History is a mandatory class over here in Germany. For a DAMN good reason, if you ask me. Everyone should know about mankinds past in order to avoid repeating mistakes (or at least delay repeating those mistakes). I dont care for religion at all (at least not when it centers around teaching the doctrines of some cult). You could (and should once youre able to) replace it with philosophy anyway.
Geography is interesting in some way as well (and i think its helpful to have a decent knowledge about your surroundings).

There are quite a few people who dislike math/science. One daily application of math for me: Which product is cheaper? Imagine if you didnt know about math at all. The world would suddenly become a strange place, wouldnt it? All those cryptic symbols.... just imagine youre in a supermarket and wouldnt understand how much that bread costs.
Just get over it, and learn. Maths is fun once you understand it.

On a related note: Im being a hypcrite here, since i simply refused to learn what i thought to be unnecessary. Somehow i slipped by and graduated. Math was fun though. As was physics, chemistry, history, philosophy, ... . Pretty much anything can be fun if you have the right teacher.

 

[Textor]

Math is one of the important things to know in life.

 

[oh_snap]

Wrong thread, Snap.

This is what happens when you have multiple offtopic threads open.

Alright, to contribute to this topic, you may hate the subjects, that doesn't mean you can't see the significance and importance of them. Do I enjoy English? No, I do not, but I see the importance of it.

~Snap

 

[Snarewave]

I see the importance in Math and Science. Most of the applications in the world revolves around them. I still really think that should be left to professionals.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

I see the importance in Math and Science. Most of the applications in the world revolves around them. I still really think that should be left to professionals.

Yeah, hire a professional to do everything, so you can sit tight and ponder the meaning of life without being disturbed by filthy digits?

 

[Mechanical Man]

I don't see the point of having to take these classes. I waste lotta my time learning about circles and triangles and frogs and whatnot. Really, are these all necessary information required to survive in the modern world? Heck no! So why have em as a mandatory class? Share your deep thoughts about this.

God Bless.

I'm wondering the same thing about literature. May be good to know some writers and what wrote they about, but being this main thing in elementary and highschool I'm glad I left this shit years ago.

 

[PurplePoot]

Practice writing essays pays off.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

-Learning these skills is necessary to express yourself in any form important to ensuring future success and self-realization. You may feel like you can get by without math in life, but one day you may see that your inattentiveness in school has lead you into a hole that you can't escape - stuck in some Job that may pay good but kills you mentally and longing for some way to make a mark on the world. Not everyone has to be a genius, but everyone has to be sophisticated in some form for an intelligent, inspired society.
-This is really something I see all the time with students, many just pretty much say they don't need all this education because they feel it won't help them in whatever job they have already confined themselves to. They want to get through school as fast as possible so they can get a full time job and begin chasing money for the rest of their lives. Though the lure of money seems seductive, ignore it. Your better off learning as much as you can - it may be useful one day.

-Yeah History is a very important class to ensure that past mistakes aren't repeated, WWI and WWII for example.


You may think this way now but you'll get over it sooner or later, hopefully sooner for the sake of your mental well being.

 

[Snarewave]

Yes master Yoda, I will obey.

 

[Coolty44]

Yeah, hire a professional to do everything, so you can sit tight and ponder the meaning of life without being disturbed by filthy digits?

What money would you pay him with? You can't add 2+2 without math, and you probably wont be able to pay a person to do your maths withoutbeing cheated

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Yes master Yoda, I will obey.

Am I sensing sarcasm hmmm?

 

[Snarewave]

Uhh... If I say no, would it make u feel better?

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Am I sensing sarcasm hmmm?

Just try to ignore him.

 

[Elenai]

Science, and Mathematics (especially algebra) are just as important as being Literate.

Without a basic foundation in these subjects...well...you can't really do much of anything.

Art, and Literature, and History are also equally important.

Art develops the side of the brain that the academic classes do not, literature expands your vocabulary and your ability to comprehend, history shows you what to do in government, and how to be a citizen, and the heroic, and infamous...things that brought your current state of being into existence.

Mathematics (algebra especially), shows you...how to count...which is rather important...and then how to apply numerical values to achieve an end.

Algebra is especially important for taxes, and marketing, so...if you don't have a basic understanding of math, you are going to end up doing something rather illegal on your tax forms, and that means a fine, and prison time.

Science teaches you rather basic things like...gravity hurts when you fall off a cliff...And it teaches you WHY your cells need 8 glasses of water a day, and why drinking nothing but straight sugar water rots your teeth and gives you diabetes.

There is a rhyme and a reason for every subject, even if there are parts of each subject that have disagreeable material.

 

[syltman]

In my opinion the really useless classes are art and music

 

[Elenai]

And truly a blessing it is that it is indeed only your opinion...

 

[Duragon]

Studies in the arts, whatever arts they may be, should remain required. It's good to be cultured in that regard, but how the student is cultured should really be up to them. If they want to take music instead of painting, sure, by all means. So long as they take some form of creative art course to sate the legitimate requirement, it's fine.