Map Size Unlimited?

[CrackBam]

Hello, I am making a map and I have a problem, I want my map to be very very big, but after 384 x 352 it can't get any bigger. I am using JassNewGen as Editor, do you have any suggestions so I can make my map much bigger than it currently is?

 

[GreeN!X]

I remember JNGP allowing a map to be 400+x400+ in size but I'm not so sure. Why do you need such a big map anyway?

 

[Heinvers]

Actually the max size for a map is 480x480 with GNJP ofc.
But no one makes such huge maps. One reason being the terrain work for it.

 

[CrackBam]

I tried it 400x400 but it couldn't save! 384 x 352 is very very small for me, I wanna make about 20 EPIC BIG EXTRA KINGDOM's where they all have farms and castles and houses inside it and I only made 1 epic big extra kingdom and like 8 more which has to be very smaller than I wanted thanks to space, anyone has an idea? Also what do you mean Heinvers? You meant JNPG?

 

[GreeN!X]

The biggest size you can use is 480x480 as heinvers said. You can't go any bigger than that.

Have no idea why you can't save though.

 

[CrackBam]

No, I can save, but I can't "Okay" it on "Map Size" cause it needs to be x32 sized.

 

[GreeN!X]

Yes, you must use sizes that are multiples of 32.

If you don't even know what those are, it's 32, 64, 96, 128, 160, 192, 224, 256, 288, 320, 352, 384, 416, 448, 480. Those are the measurements you can use in WC3.

 

[Adiktuz]

yeah, you need to make it a multiple of 32, else wc3 won't accept it... though large maps also sometimes causes errors and such so it's not really advisable to go super large

 

[Daffa]

Also a warning, if I remember right, blight might get screwed when you increase map size beyond 256x256, you need to begin with the initial size bigger than 256 and never change the size of the map ever after.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

I tried it 400x400 but it couldn't save! 384 x 352 is very very small for me, I wanna make about 20 EPIC BIG EXTRA KINGDOM's where they all have farms and castles and houses inside it and I only made 1 epic big extra kingdom and like 8 more which has to be very smaller than I wanted thanks to space, anyone has an idea? Also what do you mean Heinvers? You meant JNPG?

All I can say is:

1) re-evaluate the content of your map
2) think about decreasing the scale of your objects - making everything smaller effectively increases the size of your terrain
3) bigger doesn't mean better (except for penises)

 

[sethmachine]

And what if we are trying to re-create Skyrim?

Also, there can be errors even with a multiple of 32 map size (e.g. 480 x 480)?

What sort of bugs/errors (what causes them?)? Or are they random occurring (the map just doesn't load half the time or crashes rarely)?

 

[PurgeandFire]

And what if we are trying to re-create Skyrim?

Also, there can be errors even with a multiple of 32 map size (e.g. 480 x 480)?

What sort of bugs/errors (what causes them?)? Or are they random occurring (the map just doesn't load half the time or crashes rarely)?

The blight bug is the main one. I don't even know if it is true--I haven't personally experienced it. But this is from the GrimEx manual:

Additionally the possibility to create epic 480 x 480 maps has been added to the editor. But watch out, some people have told me about blight not working properly in maps that large.

I haven't heard about crashing or anything like that directly related to the map size.

If you are trying to recreate skyrim, you'll be better off having multiple maps (similar to Rexxar's campaign). Use 480x480 if you need multiplayer, but just note that it'll add a considerable amount to the file size alone (since much of environmental data is written based on tile points. More tile points = more data required), and it'll often take a long long time to fill up all that space. But it is up to you. Sometimes it is easier to start off with 480x480 and then just use the space that is necessary, and then decrease the size. Just note that it'll be an absolute pain to save the map (probably half your mapping time will be spent waiting for your map to save in the editor).

 

[ArkAngelG]

One thing to watch out for on the 480x480 maps is that at around the 38k mark for your destructible doodads, the map crashes when loading in game before the progress bar can even finish loading. I have encountered this on the map I am making now and had I not put so much work into this map before discovering this issue I would have scaled it back quite a bit and just found a way to make the smaller map size work.

 

[Adiktuz]

I'd do suggest using several maps... like how Ragos did it, you have a main map, then you have separate dungeon maps... the save-load codes are shared for all of them...