Make unit stationary when using spell.

[Erkowich]

I need to make a units stationary when the unit uses the ability defend.
I tried some stuff but nothing at all happens : /

Any1 got an idea on how to trigger it? (since my triggers failed.)

 

[Vegavak]

See the movement snare in defend? Try setting it to 100% or 0%.

Or trigger an invisible root spell and remove the debuff when you stop defending?

 

[leet.firefox]

Just set movement speed factor to 0

 

[bounty hunter2]

movement speed to 0, or make the enemy treat the player as ally so they won't attack you therfore you won't move.

 

[Erkowich]

either i'm really bad at this or it wont work, cause when i choose movementspeed factor to 0(even tried very large numbers and negative number) nothing happens. So any1 would like to write almost exactly how to make a trigger work, since defend is a ability you use until yu turn it off, what should i trigger it like? Units start casting ability?

 

[TerraNexx]

Here it goes:

Event---> Unit(your hero) starts casting an ability
Conditions---> Ability being cast equal to Defend
Action---> Set movement speed of (casting units) to 0
> Set (owner of ( triggering unit)) treat (all players) as allies
And then make another trigger.

Events---> Unit finishes casting an ability
Conditions---> Ability being finished equal to Defend
Actions---> Set movement speed of (triggering unit) to unit's default
> Set (owner of (triggering unit)) treat (All players) as enemies

I hope this will work, even i hadn't time to test it...is this what you were looking for?

 

[Erkowich]

Here it goes:

Event---> Unit(your hero) starts casting an ability
Conditions---> Ability being cast equal to Defend
Action---> Set movement speed of (casting units) to 0
> Set (owner of ( triggering unit)) treat (all players) as allies
And then make another trigger.

Events---> Unit finishes casting an ability
Conditions---> Ability being finished equal to Defend
Actions---> Set movement speed of (triggering unit) to unit's default
> Set (owner of (triggering unit)) treat (All players) as enemies

I hope this will work, even i hadn't time to test it...is this what you were looking for?

well, it's a big strategy map, armies and camps and shit. this unit is supposed to have a hold the line thing, so when he activates defend it will be stationary as to make a line with like 12 of these units to make it easier to defend.

Maybe i should have explained more : (

 

[TerraNexx]

aha...when your unit - maybe Footman - casts that Defend spell, other 12 units of same type create in line (6 units in right - Footman - 6units in left )?? If is this what are you looking for, than this trigger should do ( but you'll have to download WE Unlimited, it supports this type of trigger ):

Events---> Unit begins casting an ability
Conditions---> Ability being cast equal to Defend
Actions---> Create special effect wave using Footman model, facing 90 degrees, over distance you want
> Create special effect wave using Footman model, facing 270 degrees, over distance you want

This is only thing i can think of right now, but I will look into your matter deeper...
And this trigger will just make imaginary footmans, which will disappear in a second...
Sorry but right now I don't know how to make them stay

 

[Erkowich]

aha...when your unit - maybe Footman - casts that Defend spell, other 12 units of same type create in line (6 units in right - Footman - 6units in left )?? If is this what are you looking for, than this trigger should do ( but you'll have to download WE Unlimited, it supports this type of trigger ):

Events---> Unit begins casting an ability
Conditions---> Ability being cast equal to Defend
Actions---> Create special effect wave using Footman model, facing 90 degrees, over distance you want
> Create special effect wave using Footman model, facing 270 degrees, over distance you want

This is only thing i can think of right now, but I will look into your matter deeper...
And this trigger will just make imaginary footmans, which will disappear in a second...
Sorry but right now I don't know how to make them stay

nah that was wrong alos, it's just an example(i kinda suck at explaning/to lazy)

Oki, i do it properly now: I want a spell(named hold the line) this is based on defend. When a unit activates this the unit will gain a much faster attack speed and become more resistance to piercing and shit, and since the unit would become imba if he could move i want the unit to become stationary while using ability. This is a map where you can make multiple units, just like ordniary wc3 games. So you might have 12 units and all of these uses this ability and this will create a nice defense. That was the basic idea.

 

[TheBlooddancer]

Why not just using 'Hold position'? That makes the unit stand still, but still attack if in range? >.<

 

[Erkowich]

Why not just using 'Hold position'? That makes the unit stand still, but still attack if in range? >.<

wont work with my trigger :O

 

[Kroom]

Just change the "Data - movement speed factor" to 1.00 in the defend ability.

 

[TerraNexx]

Isn't that basic Defense spell? I don't get it again..
I don't know how to give it more attack speed while unit is in that Hold the Line spell....maybe with some dummy item or unit

 

[jareph]

Let me explain why set movespeed to 0 isn't work:
how fix it....

why set movespeed to 0 isn't work

There got a minimum movespeed in unit editor,
even you set it to a value lower than minimum movespeed it will return as the minimum movespeed.

to fix it,
set the value to -1 but not 0,

if you set it to 0 it will follow the value in gameplay contant.
(advance > gameplay contant > movement > minimum movespeed)

best way i suggest

(Download the map i have attached is the Easiest WAY)

Get a skill like Ensnare(Aens) (ablity > orc > unit > ensare) or (crtl+F) to find.
add it to a dummy unit.

• defend on
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order with no target
  • Conditions
    • (String((Issued order))) Equal to defend
  • Actions
    • Set Temp_Point1 = (Position of (Triggering unit))
    • Unit - Create 1 Dummy for (Triggering player) at Temp_Point1 facing Temp_Point1
    • Unit - Order (Last created unit) to Orc Raider - Ensnare (Triggering unit)
    • Unit - Add a 1.00 second Generic expiration timer to (Last created unit)
    • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point1)

• defend off
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order with no target
  • Conditions
    • (String((Issued order))) Equal to undefend
  • Actions
    • Unit - Remove Defend buff from (Triggering unit)

 

[Kroom]

You can change attack speed the same way you chage movement speed, but instead of 1.00 set "Data - Attack speed factor" to -1.00 in the defend ability. You need to change de gameplay constants first, so you can enter negative values.

 

[Erkowich]

Let me explain why set movespeed to 0 isn't work:
how fix it....

why set movespeed to 0 isn't work

There got a minimum movespeed in unit editor,
even you set it to a value lower than minimum movespeed it will return as the minimum movespeed.

to fix it,
set the value to -1 but not 0,

if you set it to 0 it will follow the value in gameplay contant.
(advance > gameplay contant > movement > minimum movespeed)

best way i suggest

(Download the map i have attached is the Easiest WAY)

Get a skill like Ensnare(Aens) (ablity > orc > unit > ensare) or (crtl+F) to find.
add it to a dummy unit.

• defend on
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order with no target
  • Conditions
    • (String((Issued order))) Equal to defend
  • Actions
    • Set Temp_Point1 = (Position of (Triggering unit))
    • Unit - Create 1 Dummy for (Triggering player) at Temp_Point1 facing Temp_Point1
    • Unit - Order (Last created unit) to Orc Raider - Ensnare (Triggering unit)
    • Unit - Add a 1.00 second Generic expiration timer to (Last created unit)
    • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point1)

• defend off
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order with no target
  • Conditions
    • (String((Issued order))) Equal to undefend
  • Actions
    • Unit - Remove Defend buff from (Triggering unit)

ty, i try this now. Since i had already tried negative values and stuff, and nothing happened i realised i had to use a trigger. i might not have learnt anything now, but on the other hand i suck at triggers and i wouldn't have been able to make this on my own.

Ohh, and can this be used by multiple units at the same time?


Damn, it wont work. I checked all things a few times now. But how can i know that the trigger utilize the right ensnare?

 

[jareph]

ty, i try this now. Since i had already tried negative values and stuff, and nothing happened i realised i had to use a trigger. i might not have learnt anything now, but on the other hand i suck at triggers and i wouldn't have been able to make this on my own.

you set the minimum movement speed to -1, but you also need a guard with trigger. like :

• defend on
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order with no target
  • Conditions
    • (String((Issued order))) Equal to defend
  • Actions
    • Unit - Set (Triggering unit) movement speed to 0.00

Ohh, and can this be used by multiple units at the same time?

yes, it a very simple trigger that without "wait" function...

Damn, it wont work. I checked all things a few times now. But how can i know that the trigger utilize the right ensnare?

You din't download my map?? i have done the skill in the map
https://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/attachments/f98/44225d1230034065-make-unit-stationary-when-using-spell-defend.w3x

if you have check the trigger is prefectly same...
but you have many to check...

1st is the skill -> ensnare: (Copy ensnare from orc skill)
Techtree - Requirement = (Delete all)
Text - Editor Suffix = Custom (don't let u confuse when choosing)
Art - Missile Art = (Delete all)
Stat - Duration - Hero = 0.00 (forever)
Stat - Duration - Unit = 0.00 (forever)
Stat - Buff = (create a new buff in buff editor from any of buff. name it as "Defend" or other) and TWO time to the Stat - Buff field...

2nd the BUFF (Defend)->
to completely hide the buff
Close all value in ART section, except icon, put the icon u like.

3rd the dummy ->
Add the skill you have created, "Ensnare Custom".
Art - animation - Cast Backswing = 0.000
Art - animation - Cast Point = 0.000
Art - Model File = .mdl (write yourself in "Custom")
Art - Shadow Image (unit) = none
Combat - Attack Enabled = None
Combat - Death Type = Can't raise, Does not decay
Movement - Speed Base = 0
Movement - Type = Fly
Stats - Mana Initial Amount = 1000000
Text - Name = Dummy

 

[Erkowich]

You din't download my map?? i have done the skill in the map
https://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/attachments/f98/44225d1230034065-make-unit-stationary-when-using-spell-defend.w3x

if you have check the trigger is prefectly same...
but you have many to check...

i checked with your map several times to be sure, but i check it later a few times more, and i use your guidelines so i get everything right.