Lord of the Clans (Classic SD)

[OutsiderXE]

Hello, thank you for your feedback.I changed chapter 7 (LotC) because I wasn't happy at all. The map was way bigger then it should have been and the creeps felt like a distraction from the humans vs orcs conflict. Also the tower defense gameplay didn't feel that good. Overall the map just took too long to complete in my opinion. The techtree for the player isn't as big to support a playtime of this magnitude (around 90-120 minutes I think). Now you could argue that I took the easy way out, and instead of coming up with some middle ground solution to make the experience tighter but keep the epicness I just copied the gameplay of numerous blizzard base buildings maps. It might have been done differently, by focusing more on the siege aspect of the story, by making Durnholde a real fortress instead of a village.

I believe I hit a much better middle ground with DotD, and here I must say I don't understand where you are missing the epicness. The general map layout and objectives are still the same, only a bit smaller so there isn't as much downtime to gameplay. Epicness should be provided plenty by the final dragon fight which was barely changed. Playing with controllable dragons was a lot of fun (for me), as they also served as much better air units than the gryphons.

Overall I am happy with those maps, as they feel less stressful and not as stuffed. Maybe it's really just the size of the maps that feels wrong to you. I can understand that longer distances can create a form of tension.

The Last Guardian hasn't really had that similar BIG update. It's been mostly cosmetics and some smaller fixes in the latest update. I have no plans to update it.

 

[seahorse]

I started playing WC3 again after a lot of time, i finished the RoC and TFT campaigns and looked for a custom one after. I quit each and every one i downloaded because personally i don't think endless ultra-intense and insanely-difficult repetitive battles do necessarily make for a good campaign.
It takes a special kind of talent to create stuff that can be interesting, captivating and telling a great story at the same time. Also, campaigns that can be completed also by people who are not top-notch players. The author's words sum it up so nicely "I just never liked the idea of simple move-from-A-to-B-and-kill-everything-in-your-path-Maps, so I wanted to add some variety".
I couldn't agree more, and despite this particular campaign maybe needing some technical improvement according to some people, i still think it is wonderfully done, bravo ! 5/5 from me.

 

[deepstrasz]

From what I gather from my mind's old memory, this campaign was fun. It seems I haven't left any comment then...

You might want to fix your signature.

 

[OutsiderXE]

Signature fixed. Thanks

If it's really been that long for you you might want to try the new version. It has many, many improvements.

 

[OutsiderXE]

There will be no more wc3 campaigns from me. Next campaign is Shadow of the Xel'Naga based on Starcraft lore for Starcraft 2, which will approximately take 5 years to make (1 year has already passed )

Wow, I wasn't kidding back then. 5,5 years have already passed since that post and SotX still isn't finished.

 

[gwapopogi53]

This is a great campaign. I suggest you should still try to enhance this one!

 

[OutsiderXE]

There is actually a lot of room left. Especially in the first third of the story... i could make the prologue playable, add a mission as a child/gladiator and another mission where you escape from the dungeon. Maybe another one with Doomhammer and some encampments.

 

[Rex Moon]

Chapter 8 has problem ! After tiredly come through some gates and done with Aedelas. Nothing happen.Was I wrong at something .Hope this site still working !

 

[OutsiderXE]

does this help? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iznWl4GdvYk

 

[Rex Moon]

does this help? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iznWl4GdvYk

Thank you for replying.I see that I didn't have that cutscene when I meet Aedelas,that also explain why I could not get in "the middle area" and why he just ran away around it. I will check it later,hopefully I won't reply again.Great map and storyline anyway.

 

[OutsiderXE]

Just to be clear: Are we talking about the end where you kill the Wizard and two priests and then you go to the final fight? You mean you were somehow able to get past them and get to the fight area without a cutscene?

 

[Rex Moon]

Just to be clear: Are we talking about the end where you kill the Wizard and two priests and then you go to the final fight? You mean you were somehow able to get past them and get to the fight area without a cutscene?

I beated those wizard and then no cutscene like I has said before but everything is cool now (somehow) ,I could see the cutscene then saved game then killed the boss.By the way,the map said it have number of mission :11 but I see only 8 chapters and the epilogue .Long time don't play Warcraft make me so confused

 

[OutsiderXE]

8 playable maps (chapters) + 3 cinematic maps (prologue, interlude, epilogue)

 

[Nighteye]

I really enjoyed this campaign and thank you for making it.

It's like you looked into my mind and made it just for me, with everything I want from a Wc3 campaign in it:

- It's easy.
To me Warcraft maps are just a graphical way of telling a good story. Battles are simply a plot device, I don't like too challenging fights which interrupt the flow of the story if you have to retry them too many times.

- No time-limited tasks (only the pigs but this was just a minigame, and easy)
Forcing the player to rush totally kills my enjoyment of any map I play, and usually makes me type 'whosyourdaddy' for the duration of the event. I like slow-paced, contemplative adventures where you can immerse into the scenario at your own leisure.

- Single hero. (most of the time)
I'd rather focus on winning a fight by efficiently timing my hero's skills and planning ahead on resources, than by worrying about multiple units surviving and constantly switching between groups while they get in each other's way. Power at a point ^^

- It's simple.
Customization is not out of control, to the point of not being able to recognize that this is still Warcraft. The look, feel and default mechanics of Warcraft are preserved.

- Nice terrain.
- Based on lore (and an actual book).
- Good cinematics

- The map files are not intentionally corrupted (for some vague reason some call it 'protection' in an attempt to justify their selfishness).
Respect to the author for leaving them editable as they are intended to be. A good decision that makes you stand out from the crowd!




What can be improved?
LotC is already an excellent campaign, no annoyances, smooth gameplay. It can only get better if:

- Difficuly setting options, from ridiculously easy to practically impossible.
Many people do enjoy tough battles and the campaign would become more appealing to a wider audience this way.

- Since this is a singleplayer mission, let the player decide on the speed of cinematic text, ranging from very slow to very fast.
I'm a slow reader and non-native speaker to English, so I had trouble keeping up and missed a lot of what the characters were saying during the longer text passages.

 

[OutsiderXE]

Adding more difficulty levels is certainly on my list of todos, but I'm so swarmed right now, I don't know when I'll get around to adding it.
Speed of cinematics is a difficult topic for me, as a lot of my texts don't seem to have the proper speed anyway. This is partly thanks to the fact that this campaign was originally localized in german and then translated into english without considering the differences of text length.

thank you for your feedback. I really do try to give my projects a blizzard feel, while still balancing new features.

 

[Supernickman 32]

Off the review Episode 5: Lord of the Clans

Read This
For first i wanted to say i not make classically review style if say this basic then that means i just say what i think about maps. Let's begin.

Off the reviews Episode 5: Lord of the Clans
What is Lord of the Clans?
It's are campaign about story of Thrall how him become a warchief of Horde.


For a final.
I could recommend this to Warcraft lore lovers


Rate.
_________________________________________________________________
-Gameplay 34/40
-Terrain 10/10
- Enjoyably 19/20
- Total points 63 = 9
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Awesome 70/70 = 10
Good ,but could be better 50/70 = 9
Not bad 40.9/70 = 8
Nicely 35/70 = 7
Too hard to you? 28.5/70 = 6
You tried ,but only half 20/70 = 5
Nice ,but with this you never be good mapmaker 15.5 =4
Try harder 10/70 = 3
Thanks seat down two 5/70 = 2
This sucks 0/70 = 1

 

[OutsiderXE]

Check out the attached file for an overview screenshot of the new Chapter 1 for LotC!

 

[OutsiderXE]

Update 1.05 is here with new maps and variable difficulty!

Features of Update 1.05

New maps!
- The old Prologue has been turned into a playable map, complete with new heroes, abilities and quests
- Completely new Prologue map. Learn more about Gul'dan and the Shadow Council

Variable difficulty levels!
- Easy, Normal, and Hard
- Improved balance

More!
- Over 250 changes
- Including changes to models, new music, bug fixes and more


Read the changelog for the full list of changes.

 

[aeman]

last time i play this one, it got language error at chapter when thrall siege the durnholde

 

[Tipsilon]

in chapter 5 (where you find the frostwolfs) thrall does not retain the bonus stats i collected from tomes in the previous chapters, is this intentional(if yes, why?) or a bug?

 

[OutsiderXE]

in chapter 5 (where you find the frostwolfs) thrall does not retain the bonus stats i collected from tomes in the previous chapters, is this intentional(if yes, why?) or a bug?

It's a limitation of the WC3 engine (or me not knowing how to do it better).

Technically I had to create different versions of Thrall (Gladiator, Gladiator with limited sight radius, Shaman with ranged attack, Far Seer on Foot, Far Seer on Wolf, Warchief on Foot). I use a replace-trigger to switch between versions of Thrall, but I have to apply his abilities manually. His bonus-stats are not retained; there might be a way to trigger them but it would be a bit too complicated for my taste.

 

[Anaxie]

AWESOME and unexpected. great work. Update this on campaigncreations too I'm sure everyone would love to check out the new version.

 

[magok]

can aynone help, when i installed it i got "just another warcraft 3 camp" and there were no levels or anything.

 

[OutsiderXE]

Does this work? please tell us. http://www.outsiderxe.campaigncreations.org/warcraft/LotCe05.rar

 

[magok]

it worked thanks

 

[Mr.Tic]

Downloaded and finished it in two sittings, few hours each. I usually don't play so much at once but, yeah it is that good! It's very good and seems polished at least to me, as I didn't encounter any bugs.
The sneaky mission was interesting, the minigames fun and not too long or tedious, plenty of tomes and items, though not any extraordinary custom ones - well that's ok for me, cause the campaign isn't that difficult to demand such items.
Every chapter is unique, many have special twists I needed to adjust to, which kept it interesting to the end. Oh and the story is also quite immersive - well, the way it si told. 5/5

Btw, in the ending cinematic, after Grom leaves with the necklace, Thrall looks at his army and - yes I saw it, hah! The Orc Space Marine! (or however it's called)

 

[Maizon]

Great story.

 

[Oraien]

This is so amazing! So much amazement and fun playing a campaign is something I miss from the original ones and although orcs are not my favourite, this is AMAZING!

 

[Rence Kristoff]

Nice Story Line and Gameplay

 

[Puzzling Centaur]

Hello....I signed up because of this mod
I really want to play this, but I can't. Prologue starts without problems. But whenever I try to play "Live and Let Die" , the screen stays black and nothing happens.

 

[OutsiderXE]

Hi,

do you have Frozen Throne 1.27 installed? Please try the other Lord of the Clans download link in my signature (the one the doesn't lead to Hiveworkshop).

 

[Puzzling Centaur]

That was it! I didn't patch my game but it all works fine now. Thank you.

 

[Puzzling Centaur]

This campaign is amazing! It feels just like playing Warcraft 3. And you placed Easter Eggs in it too.....I probably missed some, but I definitely did get Tom&Jerry reference

 

[OutsiderXE]

Thank you. There aren't that many. The ones I remember are Tom and Jerry, then Romeo and Juliet on the same map, one or two gold mines with 1337 gold, and the Orc Space Marine. And then you have Volbir and Bolvir, which are reoccuring characters in all of my campaigns.

 

[Polloronco]

Hi can you tell me where i can find the texts? i can translate it in to spanish

 

[Polloronco]

when i try to play it the campaign never start only sho a button to go back

 

[OutsiderXE]

Do you have the latest version of Frozen Throne installed? 1.27. Put the campaign in the folder Warcraft III\Campaigns. In the game go to Singleplayer - Custom Campaigns and select Lord of the Clans.

You are allowed to translate it, but keep it mind that the translated version might be outdated in case I update the original english version. The texts are in various locations in the triggers of each map, the loading screens and the object editor.

 

[HEMA_WARAKY]

when i start chapter 1 only black screen appears
it doesn't work at all.
any help please?

 

[Morris]

when i start chapter 1 only black screen appears
it doesn't work at all.
any help please?

Hey Hema, make sure you have the latest version of Frozen Throne installed

 

[HEMA_WARAKY]

it worked when i updated
thank you

 

[Nerdito]

Hi there!

Had problems with starting the mod, but found the answer in some of the posts.
Couldnt find the link to download in Your signature, because I wasnt logged on.
Then I logged on to cry about the mod not working for me and found the download in Your signature.
Im so excited to play this compaign.

 

[Anaxie]

First time replaying your trilogy since their latest major updates. Havnt played LotC since you added the new chapter one.

One huge issue that i just dont like that was in previous versions is thralls tomes are wiped when ypu get to the lone wolf level. In the new levels you hid tomes but the tomes in the same level reset once you find the frostwolf village and thralls model or class isnt changed up to this point yet. If you ever update again this might need looked at. Also in frostwolf village you have baby thrall?

I like the new stats tomes so far! Cool to come across and really enjoyed the new durotan mission. Him.and draka were fun to play.

New Last guardian campaign was streamlined but faster and with a better flow. Far easier acess and new karazhan is muuuuch better.

I liked the new human leader models and dragons for Day of the Dragon a lot. Unfortunately Alezstraza looks like ass compared to the other 4 now i would try to do with it in addition to fixing her face not lining up in the portrait at all.i

The side mission in day of the dragon always felt weird. I would say have you complete the cravan or rescue Rom mission before the second wave with Nekros arrives or its failed. Would create some real urgency with the quest and fit far far far better imo.

 

[OutsiderXE]

I like reviews like this, with some pros and cons. Thank you.

 

[MouMou]

I love your campaign 5/5

 

[OutsiderXE]

Thank you!

 

[Jayborino]

Easy 5/5 - OutsiderXE polishes his campaigns, then continues to support them for quite some time after release. He added a very good, playable prologue map NINE YEARS after the initial release in which it was originally just a watchable cinematic.

 

[Elemental]

Hi! I noticed that when I enter the loading screen the game crashes. Do you know what can cause this?

 

[OutsiderXE]

Do you use a Mac by any chance? I see more and more posts saying they have problems starting my campaigns and the one thing they usually have in commin is the Mac.

 

[Elemental]

Do you use a Mac by any chance? I see more and more posts saying they have problems starting my campaigns and the one thing they usually have in commin is the Mac.

Well I use Windows 10 pro. I was wondering if there could still be a compatibility issue, also thank you for replying

 

[OutsiderXE]

please try link 2 in my signature and tell me if it works

also make sure you got the latest patch for wc3