Legendary Terrains

[Belgarath]

Angle plays a massive part in a terrain, a lot of these terrains probably aren't actually complete in all ways, from all directions especially.

 

[HFR]

Yes. An wrong angle can ruin even the best terrain.

But, of course, people that are good at showcase terraining would be good at playable terraining, in theory.

 

[Belgarath]

Not necessarily, angle being one of the reasons, sfx the other obvious one.

 

[HFR]

Not really. It's possible to use sfx at playable terrains. But some effects, like the "fog ball" requires some good positioning.

 

[Belgarath]

Positioning being exactly my point. You can't really get the fog into the right spot; your angle will not be the same, there's a whole lot of other things, such as the fact that you can't see all that far in game.

 

[AKAIMAX]

That they may be, but it can't be that hard to make those terrains useful in a game. Just us pathing editor or something, but if that's what they're intended for.. Anyways inspiration to map makers. Better terrain = Better map.

Its not so easy to simply add pathing blocks, you have to make the terrain look good in every angle. And with all these doodads placed, the game will lag a lot.

 

[~Void~]

Playable terrain =! art terrain. Not by a long shot.

 

[HFR]

They the same, but different.

However, only a n00b would try to transform a showcase terrain into a playable one.

 

[~Void~]

Nothing is the same but different. That's impossible. Unless you're writing poetry... in which case you're a faggot.

They have some similar aspects, though. Playable stuff is MUCH harder.

 

[HFR]

I personally find them easier. You don't need to find angles or make perfect mountains.

 

[L2love]

1 thing i hate about the legendary terrains they make people discourage if ur new since ur like in awe and u think u can never make a semi decent terrain after seeing them 1st i saw them i would post any terrains i had made lol

 

[HFR]

You must first improve your grammar before improving your terraining skills.

 

[~Void~]

You must first improve your grammar before improving your terraining skills.

I never thought I'd ever hear you commenting on someone's grammar.

 

[HFR]

My grammar can even suck sometimes, but I never said things such as "u", except in "no u"s.

 

[leet.firefox]

My grammar can even suck sometimes, but I never said things such as "u", except in "no u"s.

Like right there?

And saying "u" instead of "you" is a spelling mistake, not grammar.

:|

 

[L2love]

lol my grammar sucks quite bad i know =[ I'm just horrible at it

 

[Belgarath]

People should spend less time complaining about people's grammar and spelling, and spend more time deciphering and understanding the affected message

Anyway, void, I'm certain that your understanding of playable is as long as you have a walkable path it's fine - which is fair enough. And then you ONLY have paths, with a row of pathing blockers around the outside, where there's trees etc that actually have no pathing. That was what you did in the TC, as did other people, which is such a retarded method. How would you ever make an open forest :/. If you're still using that method, D:

 

[HFR]

When I made some playable terrains, basing the map off the UTM, I placed pathing blockers in everything, even at the trees and rocks. Later on, I discovered something know as Pathing Texture

Besides, a new Playable TC would be good.

 

[Celaquil]

People should spend less time complaining about people's grammar and spelling, and spend more time deciphering and understanding the affected message

Seconded.

 

[~Void~]

Anyway, void, I'm certain that your understanding of playable is as long as you have a walkable path it's fine - which is fair enough. And then you ONLY have paths, with a row of pathing blockers around the outside, where there's trees etc that actually have no pathing. That was what you did in the TC, as did other people, which is such a retarded method. How would you ever make an open forest :/. If you're still using that method, D:

That's what I did in the TC... half a year ago... what do you think I've been doing for the past few months when I haven't been posting any screenshots? (I know you're going to say sitting on your ass, and that's totally right, but I did a bit of map stuff too :<)

Although I must say I'm really not a big fan of open forests. They just don't work so well in maps, except maybe every once in a while.

 

[thedeathunterxx]

i like Voids pathable work .

 

[Trilogy]

All I can say is... wow. These are truly magnificent.

These ~Void~ and MadseN characters have really got it in them.
And that double-man terrain with the night sky is priceless. I didn't even know people did co-productions when it comes to terraining.

 

[Spazztrops]

WoOOOOOOOw this aint warcraft this is art beautiful terraining

 

[thedeathunterxx]

i think showcased terrain ( legendary ones ) all used exponential scaling...

in other words, things in the background are many times smaller then things close to the camera view.

If you were to make it playable, the scaling would all have to be the same. So really you cant turn these into playable terrains.

Also, im not bragging or anything, but i make pretty awsome playable terrains...and i make okay showcase terrains... but everyone has there own style... Void's style is different from mine, and in there own unique ways, make our terrain special... and in Voids cases..legendary.

 

[Trilogy]

OR you're encouraged to get better at terraining.
And perhaps even spelling too.

 

[Sephalo]

tbh I don't like the burning sky picture (3rd).
I think there are way better terrain pictures on hive.

 

[AKAIMAX]

Yes there are better pictures than the burnning sky but its legendary cause it was the first of that sort of a idea. He/She was the first to make a terrain with that sort of sky or theme.

 

[Sephalo]

Read a bit in this thread before posting the same crap statement we discussed 5 pages ago.

46 pages yeah right...

 

[AKAIMAX]

Im replying to the users question.

 

[Nbah]

Umm, here's a cookie? o......O

 

[Oziris]

tbh I don't like the burning sky picture (3rd).
I think there are way better terrain pictures on hive.

You make better then.

 

[thedeathunterxx]

there probably arn't better pictures on the hive .

somewhere else, like WC3campaigns. That may have better pictures. But these legendary pics are one of the best. Chosen for reasons ranging from personal promotion to excellent uberness =p

ex : The burning sky is probably the best co terrain on the hive. Not to mention its Epic lighting effect.

ex 2 : the frost whisper hand is a dedication.

 

[Sephalo]

there probably arn't better pictures on the hive .

somewhere else, like WC3campaigns. That may have better pictures. But these legendary pics are one of the best. Chosen for reasons ranging from personal promotion to excellent uberness =p

ex : The burning sky is probably the best co terrain on the hive. Not to mention its Epic lighting effect.

ex 2 : the frost whisper hand is a dedication.

I was only talking about that terrain ofc, however the only thing I like about the burning sky is (sigh) the sky. The terrain around it is well fine but not that interesting. If I take a look at terrain made by Raid1000 or something then I'd say those terrains are much more interesting.

 

[FamousPker49]

Seriously this horse is dead, please put away your beating hammers. The sky is what made it the terrain is average. kthxbai

 

[Trilogy]

Besides, raid did HIS terrains a thousand years after Famous/frost.

 

[Megafyr]

Shouldn't we be going after what indeed looks best instead of what has been done first? I totally agree with Teuncreemers, many of raid's terrain are far more interesting than terrains up here, but they don't seem to make it.

 

[Sephalo]

Shouldn't we be going after what indeed looks best instead of what has been done first? I totally agree with Teuncreemers, many of raid's terrain are far more interesting than terrains up here, but they don't seem to make it.

Well raid1000 was just an example of me. And I really don't mind about those 'first ever done' terrains in here. It makes sence. I just didn't know it was the first time it was done however... There are so much other terrains that are damn imba aswel which makes me wonder why they're not here.

 

[Megafyr]

Well, my opinion is that first-done-terrains lose their awesomeness the second someone else makes a better copy.

 

[thedeathunterxx]

if i recall, Raid1000 doesn't want his terrains in the legendary thread.

he said so a couple of times , which is probably why none of them are up here.

 

[Celaquil]

Well, my opinion is that first-done-terrains lose their awesomeness the second someone else makes a better copy.

The legendary terrains are not necessarily the best executed terrains among all the terrains out there. But this thread is not a thread made to show-of the most beautiful terrains there are. Its made to honor the terrains that made forth inspiration, and inventiveness. Terrains that evolved a new wave of other, greater terrains. If not for many of these terrains and the terrainers who made them's wisdom, we today might very well not make as good or greater terrains ourselves. THAT is why they are here, because they meant something, they represented something. If that is a new technique or just inspirational content is not for me to judge, but I respect the creator of this thread enough to not go about and tell HIM what he should and should not include in HIS thread.

 

[thedeathunterxx]

then we should have....


1st Section : The Old, Classic Terrains.

2nd Section : The New age of Terrains.

Both have their own wim of wonder about them.

 

[Megafyr]

Or just an other thread called Top 10 terrains or so, which will be updated for new terrains. I think it is important to value not only what has been done first, but also what looks best right now. In my opinion many of the newer terrains that are made now are have much higher quality than the ones that are in this thread and should receive more fame than they do now.

 

[Hugget Sukker]

I can only agree with you, Megafyr.
So additional to this "Greatest Classics" collection, have a more frequently updated, competitive list. I'd strive to make something that was worthy of a place in it. And it would also be very nice to always be able to see the newest brilliance of the good artists. Great idea. I'll have a cup of tea on that. +Tea Megafyr

 

[Celaquil]

I am working on it.

 

[L2love]

No offense keiji but isn't there something already about this.

 

[raid1000]

marvelous idea!

 

[Celaquil]

No offense keiji but isn't there something already about this.

No, there is a "Legendary Terrains Thread" which is quite a lot different.

 

[Fussiler1]

But aren't 'Legendary Terrains' already like in the Top 10?

 

[Celaquil]

Some of them might be and some of them definetively is not, I wont deny that some of those terrains will end up in the list, but the good thing about the list is that compared to the legendary terrains it will change more often.

 

[Megafyr]

I'm gonna start recommending some terrains then...

Cogs by raid1000, because it really sticks out. The lightning is awesome, and the structures too.

Arthas by Void. The sky says it all.

Unnamed picture attached by Destructor [DoR]. It has a unique atmosphere, and is really original.

I attached the images so you can see them.

For those who didn't notice. This thread isn't about what's made first such as the legendary, it's all about execution and what looks best right now.